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legendary
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December 29, 2018, 12:21:54 AM
#23
No, let me explain. Suppose I say "The media is biased against Trump."
...and you say, "No, that's just your opinion."
...and I say, "Wrong. Surveys show 93% of times Trump is mentioned it's done in a negative light."

I've said nothing about my opinions...

Sure because opinion is no longer in the scope of the discussion as you brought a fact.

If you say "the media is biased against Trump" it's an opinion, if you say "the media is biased against Trump, as this study/survey show" it becomes a fact.
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No, it does not.

It is only at that time that the ignorant person realized the previous statement had empirical support. But he was (or in a reasonably structured debate, should have been) warned of that empirical support by the framing of the original assertion.

As an example of this, suppose you were in a room with nine other people, and such a statement was made. The others all know the facts, but you did not. Reality is reality, it was just you that was ignorant of that.

In the real world, in the realm of science, it does not matter if the reverse is true. Nine could be flat wrong, and one right.
legendary
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Merit: 1251
December 28, 2018, 11:09:54 AM
#22
No, let me explain. Suppose I say "The media is biased against Trump."
...and you say, "No, that's just your opinion."
...and I say, "Wrong. Surveys show 93% of times Trump is mentioned it's done in a negative light."

I've said nothing about my opinions...

Sure because opinion is no longer in the scope of the discussion as you brought a fact.

If you say "the media is biased against Trump" it's an opinion, if you say "the media is biased against Trump, as this study/survey show" it becomes a fact.

Also your example "Surveys show 93% of times Trump is mentioned it's done in a negative light." isn't exactly a proof of a biase against Trump as a negative light isn't a bias if the actions done by the individual are negative. I mean a serial killer will never ever get a "positive light review" in a media simply because there is nothing positive to say. See what I mean? But anyway I'm nit-picking because that's not the case for Trump, if you were to prove that 95% of media mention Trump in a negative way it would prove that they're biased against him ofc.
legendary
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December 28, 2018, 11:03:46 AM
#21
Okay, and I understand where you are coming from. But if I was to say, for example, "Manifestly obvious that persons claiming Trump's shit are heavily flawed non-patriots."

It says nothing about my OPINION at all.

That IS an opinion and nothing more.

How can you link the fact of not liking Trump or his actions and not being patriot?
There is simply no link between the two. Those are completely different facts. You can have the impression it is the case of course and it might even be the case in reality, but unless you've conducted some kind of survey or statistical work on this question you're obviously just voicing your opinion.
Which is fine of course.
But it's just an opinion.

No, let me explain. Suppose I say "The media is biased against Trump."
...and you say, "No, that's just your opinion."
...and I say, "Wrong. Surveys show 93% of times Trump is mentioned it's done in a negative light."

I've said nothing about my opinions...
legendary
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Merit: 1251
December 28, 2018, 04:34:16 AM
#20
Okay, and I understand where you are coming from. But if I was to say, for example, "Manifestly obvious that persons claiming Trump's shit are heavily flawed non-patriots."

It says nothing about my OPINION at all.

That IS an opinion and nothing more.

How can you link the fact of not liking Trump or his actions and not being patriot?
There is simply no link between the two. Those are completely different facts. You can have the impression it is the case of course and it might even be the case in reality, but unless you've conducted some kind of survey or statistical work on this question you're obviously just voicing your opinion.
Which is fine of course.
But it's just an opinion.
legendary
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December 27, 2018, 11:15:09 PM
#19
Not as flawed as the masses of liars and creeps that are opposed to him, though, and they certainly can't claim to be patriots.

Sure. Anyone praising Trump is a not so flawed patriot, anyone claiming he's shit is a heavily flawed non-patriot.

Pretty much that's the way it is. I mean this empirically. Any questions?

Nope. You got the right to believe whatever you want as long as you don't state it as a solid fact  Wink
legendary
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December 27, 2018, 11:12:14 PM
#18
Not as flawed as the masses of liars and creeps that are opposed to him, though, and they certainly can't claim to be patriots.

Sure. Anyone praising Trump is a not so flawed patriot, anyone claiming he's shit is a heavily flawed non-patriot.

Pretty much that's the way it is. I mean this empirically. Any questions?

Nope. You got the right to believe whatever you want as long as you don't state it as a solid fact  Wink

Okay, and I understand where you are coming from. But if I was to say, for example, "Manifestly obvious that persons claiming Trump's shit are heavily flawed non-patriots."

It says nothing about my OPINION at all.
legendary
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Merit: 1251
December 27, 2018, 11:34:41 AM
#17
Not as flawed as the masses of liars and creeps that are opposed to him, though, and they certainly can't claim to be patriots.

Sure. Anyone praising Trump is a not so flawed patriot, anyone claiming he's shit is a heavily flawed non-patriot.

Pretty much that's the way it is. I mean this empirically. Any questions?

Nope. You got the right to believe whatever you want as long as you don't state it as a solid fact  Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1386
December 27, 2018, 11:31:11 AM
#16
Not as flawed as the masses of liars and creeps that are opposed to him, though, and they certainly can't claim to be patriots.

Sure. Anyone praising Trump is a not so flawed patriot, anyone claiming he's shit is a heavily flawed non-patriot.

Pretty much that's the way it is. I mean this empirically. Any questions?
legendary
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December 27, 2018, 04:47:44 AM
#15
Not as flawed as the masses of liars and creeps that are opposed to him, though, and they certainly can't claim to be patriots.

Sure. Anyone praising Trump is a not so flawed patriot, anyone claiming he's shit is a heavily flawed non-patriot.

T H E    L O G I C
legendary
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December 26, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
#14
He's just a guy who said this about his daughter:
“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”

Nothing to see here.

This is one of the most yikes things about him.

Nothing to see here?

She is beautiful.
member
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Merit: 17
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December 21, 2018, 01:57:35 PM
#13
He's just a guy who said this about his daughter:
“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”

Nothing to see here.

This is one of the most yikes things about him.
legendary
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December 21, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
#12
He's just a guy who said this about his daughter:
“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”

Nothing to see here.

I have a feeling one of these days the daughter's going to come out with a bit different hairstyle as the tough business woman she actually is, and then, watch out, those who misunderestimated her.

But these fools and lying cunts will make up insults about anyone they are told to, because they are little more than parrots.
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 21, 2018, 12:18:23 PM
#11
He's just a guy who said this about his daughter:
“Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”

Nothing to see here.
legendary
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December 19, 2018, 07:01:43 AM
#10
^ Not an Obama supporter either.  All of these politicians are friends and they are just putting on a show for the sheep.  They are the same.

Good of you to say that and I agree.

But I don't think Trump is in that group. It's right out in the open - look at the way the Republican Party treated him.

"In the same group" for sure were Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders, it's pretty easy to show who is and is not, right?

The point is that there is too much focus on the President. What are we trying to do? Turn him into a king? The USA was set up just to get away from a king and the king idea.

The more we focus on King Trump (or whoever), the more we forget that we have the right to make our own lives much the way we want them, through the court system, if nothing else.

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legendary
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Merit: 1386
December 17, 2018, 10:25:02 AM
#9
^ Not an Obama supporter either.  All of these politicians are friends and they are just putting on a show for the sheep.  They are the same.

Good of you to say that and I agree.

But I don't think Trump is in that group. It's right out in the open - look at the way the Republican Party treated him.

"In the same group" for sure were Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders, it's pretty easy to show who is and is not, right?
copper member
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Merit: 2
December 17, 2018, 07:32:49 AM
#8
He was the only person on the ticket who wasn't a criminal.
member
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December 15, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
#7
^ Not an Obama supporter either.  All of these politicians are friends and they are just putting on a show for the sheep.  They are the same.
legendary
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Merit: 1386
December 15, 2018, 11:38:39 AM
#6
An insecure orange face man that had a hair transplant and also has sex with his own daughter.

A Muslim half white half black has mystery sources pay for his college and seals all records, plus his mom was a pros---, then procedures to tell a nation hundreds of times if they go for his bunko health plan, they can keep their doctor.

This is what the Democrats want to keep a secret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7qAjCkfbeY

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Wait, so the insecure orange man is putting the entire resources of the federal government to rebuilding inner city ghettos?
member
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Merit: 22
December 15, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
#5
An insecure orange face man that had a hair transplant and also has sex with his own daughter.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
December 14, 2018, 04:48:19 PM
#4
This is what the Democrats want to keep a secret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7qAjCkfbeY

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