Topic: The real reason why China banned Bitcoin. (Read 497 times)
We all know what kind of game China is playing. But how will it end?
China believes that if you invest in counterfeit currency, if you are scammed, no one can help you get it back. If you invest in fiat currency, the government can help you get it back. It may also be that the Chinese government feels that it cannot control cryptocurrency and has implemented a policy of prohibiting mining, but the country is generally for the benefit of the people. It cannot be said that China's approach is completely wrong, but it is obviously not very smart.
China is even developing their own blockchain.
China's decision to ban bitcoin is a controversial decision, because China is one of the countries that has supported the development of bitcoin and in its own country there are many Bitcoin miners who currently have to move because they have been banned from mining in China.
China will likely develop their own digital market segment and they will not rely on Bitcoin
China's decision to ban bitcoin is a controversial decision, because China is one of the countries that has supported the development of bitcoin and in its own country there are many Bitcoin miners who currently have to move because they have been banned from mining in China.
China will likely develop their own digital market segment and they will not rely on Bitcoin
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There are some misunderstandings about China on this forum. I do not comment on the policies of any sovereign country, but in ten years, we may see a China that actively embraces Bitcoin. Although China may still issue policies that have a negative impact on Bitcoin now.
I understand Buddy, you have to speak good of your country, with all you have said, we're now convince China isn't against the success of bitcoin. Are you happy now? Lol how would banning an industry that brings about financial freedom/education to the masses in the best way possible be a good thing to the average individual that can't even get an assistance from the government?.
Just like my country nigerian banning banks from engaging with bitcoin related activities, China's situation isn't different, it is just one of the means of frustrating the general masses so they disassociate themselves from the idea of been in charge of their own financial decisions. The China's government are only interested in controlling her citizens through controlling their finances and that's all what this whole fud is about.
Seens freedom of speak isn't practice over that side of the world because I see no reason why someone will openly support the wrong doings of their government. If they're that interested in renewable energy, what are they doing towards the stoppage of industry and vehicle making used of fossil fuel?.
There can be many theories and reason for China banning bitcoin. They, are trying to be stay as first economic power of world and bitcoin is totally against it by giving freedom to people. In the other hand, some income of the China government will earn from the tax they get and using bitcoin people can not pay the taxes easily. In the other theory China want to be first power and central of the economic power and decentralization of bitcoin will not let them do that. The bitcoin frauds and drug dealing trades using bitcoin can be also the reason be not a good and strong reason for China.
While I just believe that all the OP said was his guess on behalf of the Chinese government regarding the ban on bitcoin based on his confession which I quote below.
OP, as a Chinese citizen, it's still possible that you don't know exactly what your government's goals are behind the bitcoin ban. There are a lot of thing they don't reveal to the public when you are completely controlled by the government. I don't believe that your country's government doesn't want anything from bitcoin until they decide to ban it. If they want to prevent fraud and keep their people from losing their investment, then ban it in my opinion is not the right solution. I feel there is a hidden purpose to the bitcoin ban scenario in China that has yet to be revealed. I know China as a communist country whose government really want to control everything.
Everything is my guess.
OP, as a Chinese citizen, it's still possible that you don't know exactly what your government's goals are behind the bitcoin ban. There are a lot of thing they don't reveal to the public when you are completely controlled by the government. I don't believe that your country's government doesn't want anything from bitcoin until they decide to ban it. If they want to prevent fraud and keep their people from losing their investment, then ban it in my opinion is not the right solution. I feel there is a hidden purpose to the bitcoin ban scenario in China that has yet to be revealed. I know China as a communist country whose government really want to control everything.
I appreciate you coming forth with this information. I am curious, is bitcointalk.org a non-banned website in China, or do you have to use a VPN/Tor to access this site? I am also curious if you are located in China, or Hong Kong? While I certainly agree with you that China is probably somewhat concerned about the carbon emissions, I do not believe that this is the main reason for them banning it. China is a communist nation, which controls everything. As you know, life is highly controlled and the Chinese citizens are stripped of many basic freedoms. There is a reason the government created the Digital Yuan (Bitcoin replacement that can completely track it's citizens every moves). China is far more concerned about keeping tabs on it's peoples every day doings than it is with climate change. Again I am not saying they don't care at all, because I'm sure they do to some extent. Also lets be honest, you can't speak ill of your government even if you wanted to..so that is something I think that needs to be factored in to this conversation.
That makes sense if you say that China government want to stop people from investing in crypto and they want to prevent people from getting scam. Yes, that is happening in many countries and not just in China. People tend to invest in crypto because of the promising of making a big profit quickly. When they see the crypto price increase high and many new projects releases and give people a big profit, that makes many people out there just invest in crypto without research. Unfortunately, that is not a wise decision to invest in crypto without research. Still, the government or us can not stop them.
Maybe the Chinese government wants their people to use digital Yuan and understand how to use it before using crypto. When they invest in crypto, their people will have an introductory lesson on using crypto properly.
We can see that when crypto booming and start the rally, people out there amaze and even shock because they do not think that crypto can really be at the top price. So when China banned bitcoin and did not allow their people to use bitcoin, it is really impacted to bitcoin price. But I am sure that the bitcoin price will be back to the high price. But that is speculation because we never what is the reason of Chinese government ban bitcoin.
Maybe the Chinese government wants their people to use digital Yuan and understand how to use it before using crypto. When they invest in crypto, their people will have an introductory lesson on using crypto properly.
We can see that when crypto booming and start the rally, people out there amaze and even shock because they do not think that crypto can really be at the top price. So when China banned bitcoin and did not allow their people to use bitcoin, it is really impacted to bitcoin price. But I am sure that the bitcoin price will be back to the high price. But that is speculation because we never what is the reason of Chinese government ban bitcoin.
The real reason China banned bitcoin, I think China is afraid of being rivaled, because we know China can't control bitcoin under the control of their government, seeing the rapid development of bitcoin, and there are countries that legalize bitcoin, they are starting to be wary...
Hard to really see what China is doing because they've had some Chinese projects which they seem to be okay with the NEO and VET platform. But because there is no way we can have real honest information from the people there but from the media publishing more lies and fud. I would however want to believe that China isn't going to completely ban crypto but will integrate BTC on their CBDC too.
Maybe they want to manipulate and dominate in the market since other from that reasons they don't really have strong reasons why they do that, although the risk is so high here for sure this is tolerable since there citizens are earning with it and together with other things around crypto.
I had a feeling that they will regulate and impose some taxes since we know cryptocurrency is growing industry and this is additional income for there country if they a successful on manipulating it.
Hard to really see what China is doing because they've had some Chinese projects which they seem to be okay with the NEO and VET platform. But because there is no way we can have real honest information from the people there but from the media publishing more lies and fud. I would however want to believe that China isn't going to completely ban crypto but will integrate BTC on their CBDC too.
Aren't China trying to eliminate competition for their Digital Yuan, that's why they crack down on mining in the country because they want to make sure that Digital Yuan will do good? I don't get how they don't say that they want to do it because they want to reduce carbon contribution, most articles don't even mention it.
Yes, because that, they will easily understand unlike a foreign currency they know nothing about. It will be difficult for the government to bring knowledge to the whole nation of China in regards with cryptocurrency. The easiest path would be the same currency (yuan) but just upgraded. (digitized) There won't be need for long explanations about it. It's the same as their paper money but there is just no physical attribute anymore.
I think that's also the point of OP. Teaching 1.4 billion people is way difficult than just suggesting the same thing, just version 2.0.
As far as I've read most of the replies, these claims is just plausible and I now believe that they really don't tell secrets that goes outside of their country. I don't know if you are living in China or just left there and live on another country because as far as I know they have full control of all the information inside their country. I mean they've restricted lots of platforms and application on their country that's why it's not easy to share these kind of information that's related to their country.
So if you are living outside of China, then your claim may be irrelevant to why they have banned Bitcoin.
So if you are living outside of China, then your claim may be irrelevant to why they have banned Bitcoin.
Aren't China trying to eliminate competition for their Digital Yuan, that's why they crack down on mining in the country because they want to make sure that Digital Yuan will do good? I don't get how they don't say that they want to do it because they want to reduce carbon contribution, most articles don't even mention it.
I also think that is the reason why China is trying to eliminate Bitcoin. The Chinese government fears that their digital yuan will be ignored if Bitcoin market is left unchecked because people tends to flock in to Bitcoin economy that patronage their Digital Yuan. With this fear, China since they have the authority in their jurisdiction put pressure to both cryptocurrency holders and supporters in order for them to divert their attention to the Gov't Digital Yuan.
China is indeed trying to make Digital Yuan able to dominate the market in China, if Bitcoin is allowed they do have a fear that Digital Yuan will
lose to compete. So indeed China is the country that most often spreads FUD, in order to make the Bitcoin price fall. Not only spreading FUD,
China is also the most frequently banned against Bitcoin. Indeed from the beginning China did not like Bitcoin, which they cannot control. That is
a strong reason why China most often banned Bitcoin.
Aren't China trying to eliminate competition for their Digital Yuan, that's why they crack down on mining in the country because they want to make sure that Digital Yuan will do good? I don't get how they don't say that they want to do it because they want to reduce carbon contribution, most articles don't even mention it.
I also think that is the reason why China is trying to eliminate Bitcoin. The Chinese government fears that their digital yuan will be ignored if Bitcoin market is left unchecked because people tends to flock in to Bitcoin economy that patronage their Digital Yuan. With this fear, China since they have the authority in their jurisdiction put pressure to both cryptocurrency holders and supporters in order for them to divert their attention to the Gov't Digital Yuan.
I am a Chinese who was exposed to Bitcoin earlier. I hope to analyze the reasons for China’s Bitcoin-related policies to eliminate FUD against China.
Recently, FUD about China is often discussed in forums. China has successively issued a number of policies to prohibit the use of Bitcoin in China, including banning mining and banning bank card transactions in Bitcoin. Many people think that the reason why China is doing this is the decentralization of Bitcoin that is difficult to regulate, but this is only a small reason.
The biggest reason for China's ban on Bitcoin is carbon neutrality. China’s carbon strategy roadmap is to achieve carbon peaks before 2030, achieve carbon neutrality before 2060, and even initially achieve carbon neutrality by 2030. According to the Bitcoin Mining Council report on July 1, 2021, 56% of the energy consumed by Bitcoin mining is renewable energy. But in the past in China, although the specific proportion was not announced, the proportion of renewable energy such as hydroelectric power generation must be far smaller than this figure. This is not conducive to China's goal of achieving carbon neutrality. In order to achieve this goal, all industries need to make way for it.
Another important reason is the unprecedented chaos in China's cryptocurrency industry. I believe that if the Chinese people just invest in Bitcoin or Ethereum, the Chinese government will never prohibit the transaction of Bitcoin. Unlike the United States or Australia, many Chinese who invest in cryptocurrency don’t know what decentralization is, just blindly follow the trend to buy some unknown coins. Chinese investors lack the most basic understanding of the cryptocurrency industry, most people end up in bankruptcy. Only by restricting mining and restricting bank card transactions can China prevent these ordinary people who have been deceived by become parvenu from joining cryptocurrencies. The reason for the Chinese government to create FUD is not to suppress the price of Bitcoin, but to prevent ignorant people from losing money in the cryptocurrency field.
Finally, China's current development focus is still in the manufacturing or infrastructure fields. In China, finance or economy is still a very abstract word for most people. China's overall strength in the financial field lags far behind the developed world. Therefore, the current strategy of the Chinese government is to stabilize the economic foundation first, and after improving the people's knowledge and living standards, it will begin to develop at the financial level. Before that, it is necessary to ensure that China's overall capital flows to the real economy rather than various financial field.
There are some misunderstandings about China on this forum. I do not comment on the policies of any sovereign country, but in ten years, we may see a China that actively embraces Bitcoin. Although China may still issue policies that have a negative impact on Bitcoin now.
The issue about China and crypto caused so much chaos wherein FUDs are not the only things that spread due to it but also false information about China's reason why they chose to restrict the use of bitcoin. Overall, if we were to analyze their reasons, it falls down into their plan of embracing bitcoin soon. China is a huge and powerful country and most of the things they do would affect anything that it gets involves with like for crypto, as the banning of bitcoin takes place, the impact is clearly shown at the price fall in bitcoin. Nevertheless, let us hope things would get settled between crypto and China in the future cause it would be beneficial for crypto to have China on their side. Recently, FUD about China is often discussed in forums. China has successively issued a number of policies to prohibit the use of Bitcoin in China, including banning mining and banning bank card transactions in Bitcoin. Many people think that the reason why China is doing this is the decentralization of Bitcoin that is difficult to regulate, but this is only a small reason.
The biggest reason for China's ban on Bitcoin is carbon neutrality. China’s carbon strategy roadmap is to achieve carbon peaks before 2030, achieve carbon neutrality before 2060, and even initially achieve carbon neutrality by 2030. According to the Bitcoin Mining Council report on July 1, 2021, 56% of the energy consumed by Bitcoin mining is renewable energy. But in the past in China, although the specific proportion was not announced, the proportion of renewable energy such as hydroelectric power generation must be far smaller than this figure. This is not conducive to China's goal of achieving carbon neutrality. In order to achieve this goal, all industries need to make way for it.
Another important reason is the unprecedented chaos in China's cryptocurrency industry. I believe that if the Chinese people just invest in Bitcoin or Ethereum, the Chinese government will never prohibit the transaction of Bitcoin. Unlike the United States or Australia, many Chinese who invest in cryptocurrency don’t know what decentralization is, just blindly follow the trend to buy some unknown coins. Chinese investors lack the most basic understanding of the cryptocurrency industry, most people end up in bankruptcy. Only by restricting mining and restricting bank card transactions can China prevent these ordinary people who have been deceived by become parvenu from joining cryptocurrencies. The reason for the Chinese government to create FUD is not to suppress the price of Bitcoin, but to prevent ignorant people from losing money in the cryptocurrency field.
Finally, China's current development focus is still in the manufacturing or infrastructure fields. In China, finance or economy is still a very abstract word for most people. China's overall strength in the financial field lags far behind the developed world. Therefore, the current strategy of the Chinese government is to stabilize the economic foundation first, and after improving the people's knowledge and living standards, it will begin to develop at the financial level. Before that, it is necessary to ensure that China's overall capital flows to the real economy rather than various financial field.
There are some misunderstandings about China on this forum. I do not comment on the policies of any sovereign country, but in ten years, we may see a China that actively embraces Bitcoin. Although China may still issue policies that have a negative impact on Bitcoin now.
I'm sorry, op, but aren't you just repeating Chinese official propaganda? Of course, China says it's about environmental impact of Bitcoin mining. But don't you think that it's very hypocritical of China to suddenly care about the environment when it comes to Bitcoin mining, while China is the biggest polluter in the world? Why don't they back off from coal, which is the biggest source of air pollution in China? And offering programs which are related to moving away from coal would be a big win overall, including making Bitcoin mining cleaner.
And the second reason of people losing money is also very pro-government, making a point for a paternalistic state that chooses what's good or bad for the people and banning things in advance to protect people, instead of letting them make their own choices.
And the second reason of people losing money is also very pro-government, making a point for a paternalistic state that chooses what's good or bad for the people and banning things in advance to protect people, instead of letting them make their own choices.
This Carbon neutrality thing is total bullshit and I even wonder if OP is not working for the Chinese government? (Doing some damage control) 
If Carbon neutrality was the real issue, then China could have implemented some policy to only allow Bitcoin mining in areas where renewable energy was produced. (They decided to blanket ban it, which says something totally different)
Why hide the fact that the Chinese government wants full control and that Bitcoin is a threat to their control? Why hide the fact that they are creating their own centralized Digital reserve currency and that they are trying to eliminate the competition?
If Carbon neutrality was the real issue, then China could have implemented some policy to only allow Bitcoin mining in areas where renewable energy was produced. (They decided to blanket ban it, which says something totally different)
Why hide the fact that the Chinese government wants full control and that Bitcoin is a threat to their control? Why hide the fact that they are creating their own centralized Digital reserve currency and that they are trying to eliminate the competition?
Aren't China trying to eliminate competition for their Digital Yuan, that's why they crack down on mining in the country because they want to make sure that Digital Yuan will do good? I don't get how they don't say that they want to do it because they want to reduce carbon contribution, most articles don't even mention it.
This is what i also believe as they are starting this war massively against bitcoin after announcement of their Digital yuan.things that i do believe is the reason of the recent final Mining and banking banning of bitcoin operations .
three state-backed organisations, including the National Internet Finance Association of China, the China Banking Association and the Payment and Clearing Association of China issued a warning on social media.
And this brings big impact to the market recently , as the social media is what do been used for this spread and eve if this called Fud or reality yet this brings the market drops. 
The biggest reason for China's ban on Bitcoin is carbon neutrality. China’s carbon strategy roadmap is to achieve carbon peaks before 2030, achieve carbon neutrality before 2060, and even initially achieve carbon neutrality by 2030.
This is quite a valid reason but why wait this long in the first place and instead of being reactive to the situation why didn't they provide solutions to the miners. Chinese who invest in cryptocurrency don’t know what decentralization is, just blindly follow the trend to buy some unknown coins.
Have followed several Chinese traders, youtubers and many other forums and this doesn't look to be the case...would you back this up mate 😉Chinese investors lack the most basic understanding of the cryptocurrency industry, most people end up in bankruptcy.
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