The reason why investors often lose money - page 8.

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Investors are commonly losing their money because of investing in a coin without doing any research about it, this is all about knowledge, if you haven't done any research about the coin that you are going to invest then for sure you will lose your money, so better to do for all newbies who is going to invest, you have to know that it is not an easy thing, you have to make sure that you are investing in a good coin.

Why not stick on the top 10 cryptocurrencies including altcoins. Investors can still make a profit on it via holding and sell when your profit was there.
Perhaps the common problem in investors did not have proper research before putting their money, because they are in the hype with other people most especially when you know there is a group of pump and dump. But if you are going to ask me, I will stick to bitcoin investment itself than altcoins, the most reason is here.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 06, 2021, 06:12:07 AM

Basically being investors in crypto space also requires lots of preparations like crypto trading and if you are too busy and unable to find time for learning then you may stick with bitcoin investments alone.

You are right. There are many things needed for a crypto investor, especially if he wants to be a professional investor with multi assets. He must accept having a learning process and it is probably timeless. There are many things needed to learn, not only about skills or knowledge. A professional investor must learn about the current trend in crypto, a possible situation on the next season, factors that lead to increase/decrease in crypto coins, and many other things. This must require a lot of time and a serious intention.

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

The reason why investors often lose money; as a novice, I summarized the experience in trading:

1. Investment does not equal speculation
2. Not aware of new market changes
3. Do some price comparisons of several currencies that are promising in the past and this year (you can also search the project keywords in the forum to see everyone's thoughts on this project as a reference)
4. Speculators also lose money. Investors are thorough gamblers. When I didn't buy in, I kept holding. If the currency price drops sharply, we will be finished. Maybe speculators buy at the same time (the speculators who have done the market record will be aware of the red flag warning, bad things will happen, the speculators will take action to minimize the loss, and then wait for the next favorable Opportunity to act again

There are some rules to keep in mind:

1. Never sell because the price looks high. For example, if you look at it from 10 to 20, what should you judge at this time is what is preventing them from 20-50?
2. Similarly, don't buy directly because of the high price in the previous period and a lot of drop. The decline is justified.
3. Never equalize the loss in your current account, as there is a high probability that you will lose more.

We are already in a fickle market, and more often there are no rules to follow, but setting up some own trading rules will reduce my losses.

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this is very useful for me personally..Thanks for reminding us through this topic. Maybe sometimes I still make the mistakes that have been mentioned, which is often selling prices that seem to still be higher.

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Investors are thorough gamblers

I guess that by "investors" you mean traders.Investing is not gambling,despite all the risks involved.
Trading can be compared to gambling,if you don't know what you are going.
There's nothing wrong with losing money when trading,if you make more money at the end of the day.
Some traders are afraid of losing money when trading,because this would mean that they lack skills or they simply suck.This creates an emotional blockade and "fear of failure". Even the best traders are losing money here and there,so we have to get rid of the "fear of failure".

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The main reasons I saw investors can lose money is because they sell because of panic, if they did not sell they will still make the money back if invest good coins

Panic will play a role in your decision making only when you are not confident about the coin, you have invested.
If you choose coins after a strong due diligence then you can easily continue your holding regardless of whatever corrections you are encountering. So, TA and FA are more important not only for active traders but also for investors.

Quote from: harizen on August 05, 2021, 05:05:34 PM

without losing money, investors won't learn much.

To learn much, you do not need to be an investor neither.

Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 05, 2021, 06:03:29 PM

all investors must have the intention to take profits, they will force themselves to know well the effective ways to invest then.

That learning process should be done before finalizing the investments. Basically being investors in crypto space also requires lots of preparations like crypto trading and if you are too busy and unable to find time for learning then you may stick with bitcoin investments alone.

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When we lose our money, realization came to our mind afterwards and you'll eventually learn all the mistake you had. As an investor, trading is our usual career and it's a matter of hardwork once you overcome all struggles you're facing in times of trading pressures.
Taking profit is our main objective during the midsts of green days, but it's not an easy task because greed is really prone on every traders.
They failed of too much market expectations, that's why missing out some good opportunity will be ignored and won't able to take profit quickly.

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Quote from: harizen on August 05, 2021, 05:05:34 PM

But without losing money, investors won't learn much.

That's the point. Losing makes investors learn, they will realize their mistakes. Since all investors must have the intention to take profits, they will force themselves to know well the effective ways to invest then. No investor will accept losing forever, so they must learn hard and more seriously. Well, losing doesn't always be a bad thing. If an investor can understand it and know what to do after losing, it even can be a big motivation for him to improve their investment skills.

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As a rule, more often than not, people simply do not have enough patience. The crypto market does not adjust to expectations, it goes against them, therefore, when people expect growth from their coins, they often cannot accept the fact that the coin is falling and is not going to stop. Lack of understanding of the mechanisms of market management is the main reason why people lose.

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Quote from: harizen on August 05, 2021, 05:05:34 PM

But without losing money, investors won't learn much.

For me, I'd rather see them being in that worst situation so that next time, they are now more serious to prevent it. There are no perfect investors and all successful investors today really struggles on their way up.

Soon, they can create their own way how to deal with these market struggles and challenges. I won't advise them what to do because even we are in the same ocean, we are on a different boat. It means, our approaches are different.

Losing is indeed part of the game and losing will make you more wise and stronger the next time you play in the market. Investors should take this as an opportunity to learn things, though its a costly mistake I’m sure you can still get it once you master trading or investing. There’s always an opportunity to make profit in cryptomarket, don’t lose hope and don’t give up easily if you lose money, again that is part of investing.

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The investor is different from the trader.
So, basically, when investing in some certa9in cryptocurrencies, they have known and thought that they will not use the money in the short term period. They will have certain target of the period of holding the coins until they are predicting the next bullish era.
But sometimes,s they forget about how to choose the right coin to invest in for the long term. Bitcoin is the best and it is no matter. But if it is about the new hype coins, it will end soon and lose much money soon.
The bad ways are about going to invest but they don't know anything, don't have any target, and also only follow other people.

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But without losing money, investors won't learn much.

For me, I'd rather see them being in that worst situation so that next time, they are now more serious to prevent it. There are no perfect investors and all successful investors today really struggles on their way up.

Soon, they can create their own way how to deal with these market struggles and challenges. I won't advise them what to do because even we are in the same ocean, we are on a different boat. It means, our approaches are different.

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

The reason why investors often lose money; as a novice, I summarized the experience in trading:

1. Investment does not equal speculation
2. Not aware of new market changes
3. Do some price comparisons of several currencies that are promising in the past and this year (you can also search the project keywords in the forum to see everyone's thoughts on this project as a reference)
4. Speculators also lose money. Investors are thorough gamblers. When I didn't buy in, I kept holding. If the currency price drops sharply, we will be finished. Maybe speculators buy at the same time (the speculators who have done the market record will be aware of the red flag warning, bad things will happen, the speculators will take action to minimize the loss, and then wait for the next favorable Opportunity to act again

There are some rules to keep in mind:

1. Never sell because the price looks high. For example, if you look at it from 10 to 20, what should you judge at this time is what is preventing them from 20-50?
2. Similarly, don't buy directly because of the high price in the previous period and a lot of drop. The decline is justified.
3. Never equalize the loss in your current account, as there is a high probability that you will lose more.

We are already in a fickle market, and more often there are no rules to follow, but setting up some own trading rules will reduce my losses.

Hope to communicate with everyone

It made me think about my brother who was ranting over his xrp and trend to dump because the value went at losing state. At first he was only motivated due to higher value price of his assets consisting other coins. But recently he was demotivated because of falling market which altcoin also suffered while btc was struggling to be back at $40k level.
That situation litteraly an example why a person lose in trading, emotions is our very concern here.
Never sell just because you're afraid to lose it all, but rather sell when price again comes for another ATH.

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

We are already in a fickle market, and more often there are no rules to follow, but setting up some own trading rules will reduce my losses.

I totally agree with you most especially on this last part, there are absolutely no outlined rules that have proven to work effectively in the crypto trading environment, every one has different strategies and standards of trading, so also, it is advisable for each to make his or her own rules in a way that it will suit or match he's or her trading strategy.
Rules are very important most especially in the financial sector, not keeping them can sometimes result to devastating loss of money, so traders should pay attention and learn the strategies that works, make and keep rules that will help them maximize profit.

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

1. Never sell because the price looks high. For example, if you look at it from 10 to 20, what should you judge at this time is what is preventing them from 20-50?
2. Similarly, don't buy directly because of the high price in the previous period and a lot of drop. The decline is justified.
3. Never equalize the loss in your current account, as there is a high probability that you will lose more.

We are already in a fickle market, and more often there are no rules to follow, but setting up some own trading rules will reduce my losses.

Your number one rule in what to keep in mind, I don’t know if I really agree with that. Well, I’d say it all depends on what you’re looking for. I think investors should have a target, and when the market is way high above that target maybe it’s good to hit the sell button, but not sell all your assets at once. You can still hold some of the assets in case the market should continue with the uptrend.

There is no need to be in a hurry, and you have to also analyze and be sure that you’re doing the right thing. And follow your results and not your emotions. Then it’s very important to be aware of market changes. If you’re an investor you should be aware of what’s happening in the market you’re investing your money in. Some developers can decide to make changes at anytime, and if you’re not aware of it, you will be left behind.

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Quote from: Lordshiva on August 05, 2021, 10:37:56 AM

some points I would like to add is the greediness in the mind of the investor. Other thing is that he does not know exactly when to sell. The investor must be clear in his mind that after how much profit he should sell the amount

You must need to be greedy if you have invested with only bitcoins. People who invested in bitcoins some 5 to 10 years back and being greedy are making massive amount of profits right now. So, being greedy cannot be a problem especially if you are an investor and you have invested into bitcoins. Investors will lose only when they choose shitcoins and/or not bothering about technical things while investing.

Long term projects can feed your greediness. So, being greedy with right project is highly recommended. So, I am not ready to accept that greediness is a reason for investors to lose their capital.

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

The reason why investors often lose money; as a novice, I summarized the experience in trading:

1. Investment does not equal speculation
2. Not aware of new market changes
3. Do some price comparisons of several currencies that are promising in the past and this year (you can also search the project keywords in the forum to see everyone's thoughts on this project as a reference)
4. Speculators also lose money. Investors are thorough gamblers. When I didn't buy in, I kept holding. If the currency price drops sharply, we will be finished. Maybe speculators buy at the same time (the speculators who have done the market record will be aware of the red flag warning, bad things will happen, the speculators will take action to minimize the loss, and then wait for the next favorable Opportunity to act again

There are some rules to keep in mind:

1. Never sell because the price looks high. For example, if you look at it from 10 to 20, what should you judge at this time is what is preventing them from 20-50?
2. Similarly, don't buy directly because of the high price in the previous period and a lot of drop. The decline is justified.
3. Never equalize the loss in your current account, as there is a high probability that you will lose more.

We are already in a fickle market, and more often there are no rules to follow, but setting up some own trading rules will reduce my losses.

Hope to communicate with everyone

Yes i agree with your points..some points I would like to add is the greediness in the mind of the investor. Other thing is that he does not know exactly when to sell. The investor must be clear in his mind that after how much profit he should sell the amount

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Quote from: Renampun on August 05, 2021, 10:28:18 AM

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Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

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These rules apply to me. I often lose myself in trading because of more laziness. One of the reasons I like forums is that your trading experience often reminds me.

good luck

laziness often makes us lose money and it is a big enemy in each of us...

in any field it is often laziness that makes it difficult for a person to move forward, and laziness is almost the same as greed, it destroys one's body and mind. stay away from laziness and also greed then your trading will be successful.

laziness to learn from mistakes will make the trader repeat the same mistakes again, and eventually will make him lose again so that the same disappointment arises. Therefore, we should not even learn from analyzing to learning to control our own emotions. if we are still controlled by emotions, of course we will harm ourselves later, because most traders lose because of emotions in dealing with the market, for example greedy

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Quote from: John Jefferson on August 04, 2021, 02:06:25 AM

Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

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These rules apply to me. I often lose myself in trading because of more laziness. One of the reasons I like forums is that your trading experience often reminds me.

good luck

laziness often makes us lose money and it is a big enemy in each of us...

in any field it is often laziness that makes it difficult for a person to move forward, and laziness is almost the same as greed, it destroys one's body and mind. stay away from laziness and also greed then your trading will be successful.

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The main reason to loose money because new invester don't read first market analysis(TA) so that's why he don't judge market movement Market going down or up or follow anyone signal so this is one of the main reasons to lose money

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Quote from: jaberwock on August 05, 2021, 04:11:07 AM

Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

The reason why investors often lose money

Often? You are wrong.

Investors definitely will not lose and even they lose it may not occur in more frequency given that if they invest bitcoin kind of highly recognized assets. If you invest into a random thing and crying about losses then I will categorize you philanthropist and not an investor.

Quote from: lightning0 on August 04, 2021, 01:36:38 AM

Not aware of new market changes

This happens only with random things and not with reputed assets. Invest only into bitcoin and you never lose anything in long run or at least in next 4 years. It means all bitcoin investors may start enjoying good returns for their investments from minimum 4th year onward.

Yes, investment will be risky.Although you choose Bitcoin, smart investors are good at observing market changes and depend on simple trading plans.

I am willing to believe that holding Bitcoin for 4 years will increase my assets, but this is not entirely correct. "Will the price exceed $40,000 tomorrow? Only tomorrow will I know."

As an investor, you should always maintain a vigilant attitude, right?

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