Topic: The Revolution in France & Europe - page 3. (Read 975 times)

Let's get a few things straight :

- French government doesn't give a fuck about the environment. They tried to use climate change as an excuse to raise taxes on diesel oil(supposedly worse than regular gas or batteries). Only a small % of those taxes are meant to go into the environment budget. Even our former Minister in charge of Ecology gave up and resigned because he felt helpless.
-Those taxes are raising in order to reduce the state debt, nothing else.
-While the government is asking the poor to pay, it has raised the ministers salaries 20% last year. Same for some of the biggest cities mayors (+40%). Parliament members also have immunity even though many of them have had legal issues in the past (mostly tax fraud). French people are tired of all politicians, whatever their side is, they're fed up with the whole system.
-France is a country of privileges... for politicians but also for the most powerful people. Macron has canceled ISF which was a tax the richest people had to pay. To sum it up, now more than ever, the poor get poorer and the rich get richer.
-The yellow vests are of course asking for more money but also for the right to interfere in the big decisions made by the State. They want what we call the RIC (if you get a petition signed by more than 700 000 people, a referendum has to be held). They also want Macron to resign but that will never happen.
-Macron made a speech this week saying he would raise household purchasing powers but those measures are bullshit (all economists say so), completely fake and only here to try to calm people down and divide them.

One last thing, do not believe everything you hear in the French media. Most of them are controlled by "supporters" of Macron.

The MSM is just pinning it on the gas tax so they have an excuse and don't have to mention the real reasons for the protests. It is much more convienent for them to say it is about the fuel tax than to have to say it is about them being sick of paying so much taxes in general to support oodles of immigrants and the nonsense virtue signaling war against CO2 while they can barely get by themselves.


You think raising the minimum wage is the answer?
Maybe one day France will wake up and realize that LESS government is the answer, not more.

If you raise the minimum wage you will just drive more companies/investments out of your country and it will be harder for your immigrants to find ANY job to pull some of their own weight, and it will be harder for all of you to find any job because it will be harder to companies to afford to hire any of you.

You take in so many people that are illiterate in their native languages, much less in French, with little to no education at all.
How high of wages are they worthy of? How much do you want to force any company to pay them for what value they can bring?

If companies DON'T hire them then they will be "racist", so they will, and they will get little value from them while being forced to pay them a high wage..
No one is going to invest in that and these companies are going to flee for regulatory arbitrage.

Go ahead and raise the minimum wage. You do realize that if taxes are for example 50% then your "raise" you will only get 50% of whatever the raise is, and just pay MORE taxes.

Do you want your raise so you can pay more in taxes or are you sick of the high taxes and all the frivolous crap they spend your tax money on?


https://www.france24.com/en/20181209-over-1700-arrested-latest-yellow-vest-protests-france

A few of these say 1,700 a week ago "More than 1,700 people were arrested across France during the latest "yellow vest" protests"..
What about arrests that were from previous "not the latest" yellow vests protests?
Do you think they are accounting for all the arrests in all of the small towns and other cities across the nation?
Do you think it is in the MSMs best interest to state the highest number they can count?

Even just your numbers are over 1,000, which is a lot still....
But the entire thing is "Fake" and you completely discredit one of the greatest philosophers of our time over a slight difference in statistics?
Why does the exact number matter so much and how would you propose to come to an official exact number anyway?

Nah..
Close enough.. A lot is a lot..

I just watched one of the videos for a few minutes and got enough. The guy hasn't the right data to talk.
It's fake, not +1900 persons have been arrested. 150 last Saturday, 900 2 weeks ago, we are far from the 2000 he is talking about.

Also, he didn't understand correctly what's going on in France, it's not only about Oil taxes...

It's about the daily life of people, they are tired to work full time since years and are not able to save $20 at the end of the month. Prices are outrageous but minimum wage doesn't follow, Frenches are just asking to get a decent life, especially since they have a job, having enough food and go to holidays once a year.

About the migrant topics the guys maybe didn't know that the migrants were hired by France not to immigrate but to either fight during the war or re-build the country after the world war, the country was full of jobs and not enough workers. Then as a thanks for the nation offered them to stay in the country

France is a part of Europe. It is even in the European Union unlike Russia.

The revolution is world wide, andit isn't confined to Europe, Trump is fighting the bankster thefts of savings and assets. China is trying to replace the central banks control of the Petro dollar. Britain is fighting to stop the morphed British Empire keeping it in the asset suction cleaner that it owns ( the mis-named Eurpoean Union ).

I treat such people with respect, they are fighting for their own benefit, which is not true of my third world country, all people endure here, they are torn by what is happening in the country and they don’t try to change anything.

"Now representatives from the French Communist Party, the Socialist Party and the far-left populist movement France Unbowed (La France Insoumise) have come together to table the motion against Macron’s government."
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/12/macron-government-to-face-no-confidence-vote-following-french-protests.html

They are trying to swing this like the solution is to move FURTHER left, but the left has been the problem the entire time.

The high taxes they are rioting about is from the increasing leftism. The immigration that is sucking tax money and destroying the culture is the push for leftism to dilute western values of the voting population.

The entire thing is a setup for communist takeover, and now the communists are going to try to step in and "save the day" while all of this has been their plan ALL ALONG to TAKE OVER THE WEST!

Don't let the commies win!

France! Please shake the cobwebs out of your heads from the brainwash fog that has been pressed upon you before it is too late and you are all in gulags!

Their is a MASSIVE international scheme to confuse and weaken the west so THEY can take over and achieve ULTIMATE POWER!
This is a war for control of the free world and you don't even know it! All of the pushed degeneracy, white guilt, immigration, and every step further left is one step closer to their ultimate goal.
Wake up!

Every time a leftist proposes ANYTHING - THINK - How does this proposition advance their ultimate goal agenda of authoritarian one world government domination?
It ALWAYS does! Inch by inch they are winning.

Lol France is really fuked up. Worse than I thought. Looks like a third world country history .
We live this kind of policies in Brazil for years too..

It's not a rumor unless you are under some sort of censorship blackout where you are. I've heard a lot of videos/channels on youtube aren't viewable from france and their is a MSM media blackout on the subject ofcorse.

This is quite informative on the subject.
https://youtu.be/TNyVcP0e5hw

If it won't let you watch it hop on TOR.

WeAreChange has a lot of good videos on it too..
https://www.youtube.com/user/wearechange/videos

But Stefan (first link) really gets to the root cause.

I am not from Europe, but I read in some newspaper that Macron wants to change France's energetic matrix radically. France relies heavily on nuclear power plants and few eolic energy. He also wants to reduce co2 emissions.

All that change comea with a cost, which must be paid with higher taxes , which increases the price of everything in the country (especially electricity, which is going to be more expensive in this new scenario).

Political correctness and climate change  expensive policies. Do the people really want to pay that price?

It is not only about gas, it is about the constant small and bigger price increases in food, electricity, healtcare etc.
As one pensioner from France said in an interview a few days ago:
I am here protesting against the government because after paying my bills, there is hardly anything left. I cant afford any luxuries because the money that is left can only be used for food and clothing.

There are these rumors on the internets.......


People taking to the streets demanding change of government and corrupt media and banking system.


A war is happening and its being censored by mainstream media.


They will tell you it's because of Gas but the people are saying they are fed up.!