Topic: The Rise of Autonomous Car Racing (Read 387 times)

Honestly don't see the point in betting with games where AI is involved, it's pretty much just like betting on virtual horse racing if you think about it, it's just a matter of scalability that's setting those two apart if you'll ask me. Incidentally, partly the reason why people are so enticed with adrenaline sports like Racing and Boxing is because it exemplifies and glorifies just how great humans are when pushed against their limits. introducing AI to the equation may seem like a blatant disrespect to the culture especially to those who are very particular with the game they choose to bet on.

Personally while I really don't see the point of such a game, I am not against the idea of it being a major shit, but I would love to see some form of human interaction along the lines, like perhaps having the pit stop team still be humans, or have it be the other way around. The pit stop team being AI-powered, while the driver inside the machine remains human. At this point we can't introduce radical changes in the system as people will see it as blatant disrespect as said earlier, so make it gradual and for sure people will soften up to it.

Technology is something that really going advanced as we do go in further years or into the future and now at the present we are already seeing these stuffs on which its been applied on the gambling or betting field already.
The only thing that hesitates me is on how they would really be making it fair? How it would really be considered that there would really be no tweaks or intentional degrade of someone cars just to make those kind of
fixated matches or races on which we know that it could cause up that kind of manipulative kind of betting. This is why it would really be still giving out that kind of hindrance in overall fairness.
If ever they would be presenting something that assure that it would be fair then this might be something that getting more attention but honestly this is my first time on hearing out this kind of thing.

No the technology is more advanced than that. In some cities there are already fully autonomous taxies taking customers and bringing them to their destination without any human in the car except the customer. Waymo is operating in big cities like San Francisco and they will be available in bigger ones such as Los Angeles very soon. You can watch this video from a live stream of Jinnytty she tried this taxi service and as you can see there is no human except her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8tsyf2AVIc

I heard about autonomous car racing but so far I haven't really followed its development because I personally find it very uninteresting even though autonomous cars themselves are form of technological development that is now increasingly advanced.
I feel that there are no skills that can really be demonstrated in real terms because autonomous cars themselves are not controlled by humans who drive them directly but rather by the collaboration of several existing artificial intelligences.

I personally would never bet on an autonomous car racing event because of course it would be very difficult to predict, after all betting on an autonomous car racing event would be the same as betting on game of luck.
There will be no strategy that can produce accurate predictions on bets like this, everything works without many people knowing, in fact I'm sure every company in this field that is involved in creating autonomous cars will also cover each other advantages.
Obviously I would be much more interested in real car racing like NASCAR or F1 where we clearly see how real racers control the car they are driving to be able to finish in the lead.

Let me start by saying that this is a good development technological-wise, but in human gains, popularity and development, it is never a plus no matter what anyone says. I read about this a while ago and I can only feel for the next-generation racers, we are deviating from humans too much these days, and though it may look like nothing now, it will affect this aspect over time.

Besides, I still expect imperfection in this arrangement, for now, we should expect a lot of flaws, accidents and some ugly behaviours from the AIs. I hope the organisers make provisions for that to avoid much damage to properties and to avoid causing loss of lives when the AI-driven cars move away from their routes.

Can I bet on it? certainly not, for now, it is too risky, to say the least. Perhaps with time, after the automobiles have established good names for themselves in this area, I may consider. But we should know that we are betting on the best technology in this regard, so take that as how I feel about this development. Mine is to locate the company that can do it better and bet on their cars.

I think robots are still different from cars even though many cars now are automatic. It can be a sport because if we think about it, we already have other car sports like F1 race. We can say that we don't have an interest on some sports because we don't know the players, drivers, etc... involved but it does not mean that we can not enjoy betting on it anymore.

You know we can just put some cash and hit the bet button to see if we are lucky or not. In the case of E-sports, I think people find it unusual at first because they never thought video games can be in the level of sports / sports betting. Each has our own taste, though no doubt that some sports popularity are on a different scale.

This is the first time I have heard of something like this. I did some research and watched a couple of YouTube videos. I can't say I like it and I don't think I will ever bet on something like this (at least I think so now).

When there is already an Autonomous Car Racing league, we can probably say this is very serious, and other countries will join this sooner or later. We talk a lot about AI, and this is a good example of what AI will be used for. As I said, I can't say I like it but people who are more into this AI thing will follow and participate in this for sure.

Human vs Human, AI vs AI. Humans have different levels of intelligence, precision, analysis and mentality in each race or match. Meanwhile, AI is a human-made robot. Are there different advantages and disadvantages to the same product? Of course, if AI from a different creation is embedded in the machine then we can place bets. For example, Google, Facebook, Microsoft and OpenAI planted on different machines certainly have different advantages.

This is the the first time I have heard about this, completely autonomous car racing So how will it work in reality because it's too predictable right?

I remember remotely controlled races which is kind of fun to watch to be honest but I am never into this thing, but I am definitely looking into the technology of AI race so this means no need of racers anymore so this is going to be the another one AI is going to snatch from the humans...

This is just a high tech show and a rich man's toy, it will never be a real race and I dont think the bookmakers will ever provide a market for this kind of race.
Because everything is based on sensors, we definitely wont see this AI race like an F1 race, AI cannot possibly match human reflexes and instincts in car racing.
And silly accidents like the one in this video will often happen: https://x.com/JFranF1/status/1784253110627496082

It was also the first time I heard about this kind of sport, but the point is that it exists. I have done some research about it and saw that it is becoming a popular sport. There was a global championship for autonomous cars called Roborace, founded by Denis Sverdlov in 2015, and they had a series of competitions until it was stopped in 2022 due to lack of funding.

There is also another popular event called the Indy Autonomous Challenge where contenders for the first positions are university teams. The last event was held in Las Vegas early this year, and the winner was TUM Autonomous Motorsport (Technical University of Munich).

But the Abu Dhabi Autonomous Racing League, with a prize pool of up to $2.25 million, is the only self-driving racing league in the world. Eight teams from educational and technological institutions from the UAE, Germany, Italy, Singapore, the US, Hungary, and China participated in this year's event and were viewed by about 600,000 people. And it was TUM (Technical University of Munich) that also emergedas  the winner.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/2023/03/17/abu-dhabi-to-host-new-self-driving-car-race-series-on-f1-track-from-2024/

https://www.indyautonomouschallenge.com/tum-autonomous-motorsports-wins-third-annual-autonomous-challenge-ces

https://a2rl.io/

This is why I was also asking if it's just AI controlling these cars then there is nothing to bet on as they are all programmed. Unless they are remotely controlled by a person just waiting at the finish line and they are just remote drivers which is basically skills to learn.

You know when you look up to the idols you have when you see them win a gamer's tournament, teens have so much respect for these gamers and I think people will also become fans of these remote drivers if they could win this way.

I will not doubt the existence of something of this nature happening knowing how the world is fast moving on technology developments and innovations, we have to make a try more on something new and have to see that people enjoy and have the best satisfying gambling experience when it comes to sports and entertainments in this aspect, more innovations are still coming and this in consideration will be my first hearing about it.

what the heck I just heard about autonomous racing from you I mean racing with an electric car is enough for me but now an AI also want to take the stage hmmmmmmm and if you ask me Would you bet on an autonomous vehicle? Hell no bro hahhaha for me racing is about the skill of the driver and the engine roar and this makes race a race you know what I'm saying right basically a race with an engine and a professional driver makes the uniqueness of a race

How do you feel about placing your wagers on a race where the competitors are machines rather than humans? The answer would be it would be awkward at least for now, so the machines basically a smart and if the enemy was machine whos are gonna win??

Sure, maybe I was a bit too strict with my wording as it is of course up to everyone else which sport or activity they like and which not. It could indeed be an interesting event to watch and get an impression of what is technologically possible and how the different "participants" improve over time.

I only have issues with betting on it. I am not sure you can understand me here, but it is all about technology and no human factor anymore that is at play, I would kind of felt betrayed as I would always think there are so many ways to manipulate the outcome maybe?

And it is extremely difficult to rationally penalize something. If you bet on the best car and it gets crashed by the worst car, then the team and the car could get a penalty. In motorsports there is a human being that in 99.9% of the time wants to avoid a crash by nature and would be the one suffering from the crash, too.

I know there have been cases in motorsports where drivers intentionally caused accidents to get an advantage for the team or something along those lines, but if it is technology only, how would the word "intention" and penalty even come into play?

I would still say that it is a completely different sport when there are humans involved during the game who can be held responsible.

But again, as I said, after all it doesn't mean it wouldn't be interesting to see how people develop cars that can actually race with each other and make it through the track without crashing while overtaking others and so on.

This is the first time I read about an AI based car racing I'm betting on humans and animals because I can easily analyze the weaknesses of every participant but an AI is something different we will owe it up to luck for us to win here it's hard to make a concrete decision based on analysis because its AI.

But since this is coming up we'll have to see if it will gain support and how it will play out, if they can succeed on this many more will follow

The world is changing and because of the internet and the advancement of AI, the imaginative minds of gambling operators will come into play to implement this on as many platforms and models as in this case Car racing.

If this gains enough support we are likely to see events that are dedicated to Autonomous Car Racing if gamblers have success in this kind of event expect more of this.

I'm not a fan of sports racing it is very rare that I bet on this kind of bet, AI betting is a new interest I'm sure gamblers will explore it but they have to see the odds and the probability we can analyze it if it's human but it's different when its artificial intelligence operating it.

We are in an advancing world, and new things keep evolving every day for different purposes. Since this is in the entertainment scene, I can give it a try, and if I play it for the first time and it's well entertaining and also has no big gap between the normal casino games, then I will continue to play it. Slot games are program in such that it is not controlled by human, machines perhaps. I have not heard about this autonomous racing, but it seems like it's going to be interesting. 

This is why if you are not very familiar with the technology deployed on these cars, would not be advisable to bet on this sports. But maybe this is a good event to watch out for. See how this autonomous car racing is all about. Their possible flaws on the road and how they perform on the field. Somehow, this is an interesting race, however, betting for me is not advisable if you have no clue of their respective tech.

So I briefly searched on this event, and yes, there were still some flaws during the trial run.
The article In the first Autonomous Racing League race, the struggle was real stated that cars randomly juked, spun, turned into walls or just pulled off the track to take a little break.



This was their first run, so definitely it was not perfect. And since we are talking about technology here, it means, thru time, they will further improve its performance. For sure, their next run will be much better than their first.

True who has the best tech will win and what comes to mind is that this basically a battle for the better tech, software, and other innovations that could have real use case application in other fields aside sports than it is about racing. It also means that folks who are interested in this type of betting will have to go up their knowledge in tech stuff. The more experienced you are in the type of tech, software versions the better your chances of winning.