The Rise of Mobile Gambling Is Leaving People Ruined and Unable to Quit - page 12.

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Quote from: Yogee on September 08, 2022, 05:09:45 PM

Quote from: coolcoinz on September 08, 2022, 04:25:28 PM

Please show me the difference between a gambler who sits in a casino all day, a gambler who plays on his computer all day and a gambler who plays on his phone all day. The action is the same, the time spent is the same, money wagered is the same.

One major difference is the time spent to gamble. Those who play at the comfort of their home can use the travel time going to a physical casino. Jason described this "travel time" as a non-gambling activity. I guess he could use that added playing time to spin a hundred or more on slots and bet more money.

That would be true only if a gambler had such a large amount of money that they could play all day. Most of us do not.
Does it really matter if you gamble for 6 hours and make hundreds of rolls or spins, or you gamble for 12 hours because you're at home and can keep going? In my case when I have money and decide to play everything is over in 1 hour. I either win or lose in that short time. You can technically gamble all day if you keep a few cents each time, but who does that?

Quote from: Saint-loup on September 08, 2022, 04:58:12 PM

Yes you're right but when you go to a land based casino you meet other people, who are real, so you can't hide your addiction, they see you and you are aware of it. But on a computer or a mobile phone nobody sees your addiction, even his wife and his kids in the testimony of the article didn't realize how addict he was becoming. Then you are not ashamed in front of anyone for having those compulsive habits, if you hide it.

Really? Would you be ashamed surrounded by people who do the same thing? Like a person who is naked isn't ashamed when they're at a nudist beach and other people are naked as well.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 08, 2022, 11:52:21 AM

What can be done for these types of addicts?

These addicts need to step up and help themselves, they have to take the initiative since we know that casinos and other organizations are willing to help as long as they are willing to approach them. I think what you mentioned is a good example, providing different solutions is one of the best way to handle their addiction since no matter how much help we provide it still depends on their awareness and how determined they are to help themselves.

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Quote from: skarais on September 08, 2022, 02:48:53 PM

Have you ever tried it? Lol

Yes, I tried it. Games that are said to be not for gambling, but games are similar to "Funky Games" in online gambling. and uninstalled it after few days using it. Cheesy

Quote from: PX-Z on September 08, 2022, 05:16:06 PM

That's terrible parenting as well, parents shouldn't let their child install any apps that they don't actually know or they never tried first. Or just don't let the child use any phones without approval and without their surveillance.

Quote from: D ltr on September 09, 2022, 10:41:18 AM

It's a shame for the children of this generation, so what will happen if they continue to play. and it's true what you said will definitely be addicted to gambling from an early age, here needs extra supervision from parents with what they install applications, but I do not deny that children are now smarter than their parents who did not have internet, even if there is only for the upper middle class,

You guys may need to know, most children here starting from elementary school already have their own cellphones. Their parents let whatever they play as long as their child is not out of the house. Most parents do not pay attention to the games being played and for some parents, they aren't asking what the kind of the game, so they are out of control and do not understand if the game is similar with gambling.

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Quote from: dothebeats on September 08, 2022, 01:36:25 PM

It is obvious that with these technological advancements also come some negativities for a lot of people, great example outlined here are gamblers who cannot control their gambling urges. Usually self-exclusion solves this problem. But there are still cases wherein people can access other gambling platforms due to a weak self-exclusion system. By this time, it would be best if the gambler would seek advice from a psychologist regarding their condition. Intervention really is the key and perhaps the last resort for addicted gamblers if they keep on finding ways to gamble even though they want to stop.

Given that the pandemic boosted at least almost all mobile outlets, this is a natural occurrence that mobile games have encountered. With this in mind, mobile gambling has become some sort of an addiction that everyone is potentially addicted to. Unfortunately, mobile gambling is more prone to addiction due to its convenience and availability, compared to physical casinos.

In all honesty, the barriers that one can encounter in playing mobile gambling games is nothing. In fact, some streamers even advertise the use of such which attracts the younger generation into this addiction.

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Mobile gambling is really too convenient. I agree on that part. The easy accessibility is a problem because it really paves the road to a quick addiction. Its not really the same thing as physical gambling or even gambling on your desktop computer / laptop because its a completely different experience, so there is no point in comparing the different kinds of gambling.

This is obviously a new type of gambling addiction and probably needs a lot of new kinds of regulation laws to keep kids and endangered individuals like already known gambling addicts away from it.

Since its still in its early stages as any new tech, we will see a "wild west" and during that period a lot of people are going to suffer damage from it. Maybe the best thing to do right now is find a way to minimize the fallout?

I would maybe say that special licenses should be required and should only be given to online gambling businesses that have already proven to be responsible.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 08, 2022, 09:03:40 PM

Quote from: Doell on September 08, 2022, 05:26:37 PM

Destroying a mobile or not having internet access, will make the gambler even more crazy, if he finds someone else's mobile phone on a relative, he will definitely use it. The case above is same as the case of my friend, unfortunately until now he is sickly if he doesn't gambling. The solution for this is appeals from within the family and people around, if he is locked up in a outlying place I doubt he will live, need a long time to recover ! But it depends on how severe the addiction.

But I think that is a good place to start, withdrawal, without any phone besides you because it's the thing that tick your addiction. And again, it's the mindset of the individual, if he wanted to stop his addiction then the person will distant himself to any phone around him. I think it's not just the addiction that needs to be tackle here, but the easy access of any casino's and gambling around with just a touch of your mobile phones.

I agree with the post aioc and traderethereum before my this post above at pages 3, the health department related to this problem such as psychologists or other doctors also does not recommend staying away from mobile phones. This is not dangerous at all, but is dangerous on mindset of addict's, so at the very exactly point of post traderethereum, an addicted person will be very "difficult to leave" that's right. Addicts have to fight back with it and the solution to this is family and care.
Indeed undeniable about the easy access to gambling, because we live in a very new world, the grow of the era is increasingly sophisticated, but we must control is our mindset from feel carnality.
btw it's not me who's addicted, but it is my friend.

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Mobile gambling offers lots of false hope for gamblers which actually leads to greed and ends up in gambling addiction. In the end, the gambling site benefited but the gambler was damaged financially and emotionally. In a world where temptation could not only be around but also on our mobile phones, we should be wise and know how to control and put limits on everything. We should be firm in facing temptations bravely and we shouldn't let our emotions take the lead.

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Quote from: masulum on September 08, 2022, 12:07:59 PM

many 10+ yo children also play games with this gambling interface. This is considered normal by their parents because they are thinking its not a gambling, but mostly from this app have a high possibility of the child being addicted to gambling.

It's a shame for the children of this generation, so what will happen if they continue to play. and it's true what you said will definitely be addicted to gambling from an early age, here needs extra supervision from parents with what they install applications, but I do not deny that children are now smarter than their parents who did not have internet, even if there is only for the upper middle class,

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Quote from: Apocollapse on September 09, 2022, 09:22:06 AM

Internet connection and cell phones are created to help human activities to become more easy, it's the fault from the users if they're got addicted because they're lack of self control and time management. Removing internet connection or don't allow them to touch cell phones aren't a solution, it just like a temporary solution. The best solution is find a doctor or professional to take care them about addiction, different person will have a different treatment.

What seem as a disadvantage is also advantage to others. It is looking like internet is pushing people more into gambling because they are losing. Just as they say failure doesn't have followers but some people are also happy that it is now easier to make money. For those that are profiting from online gambling it is a welcome innovation to help humanity.

Addiction may not be controlled from a doctor. The person that is addicted will have to have a reasonable zeal to come out from addiction before the advise from professional can be effective.

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Internet connection and cell phones are created to help human activities to become more easy, it's the fault from the users if they're got addicted because they're lack of self control and time management. Removing internet connection or don't allow them to touch cell phones aren't a solution, it just like a temporary solution. The best solution is find a doctor or professional to take care them about addiction, different person will have a different treatment.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on September 08, 2022, 11:52:21 AM

Perhaps treatment centers would be located in remote areas with no internet access? That seems like it could represent a good first step. But of course the second they returned to modern society. There would always be the temptation to revert to former behavior. Which could be tough to resist.

Sounds like a good idea but it's not, one of the steps of recovery is facing your fear and facing what controls you, deprivation will not work along the way, there should be a replacement for what triggers the urge to gamble, you don't just switch it off, you have to work on a replacement and that replacement should be strong enough to hold and withstand the old habit, so in reality absent of the internet will not cure it.

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Do people want to stop paying attention to their phones these days, let alone stop gambling on them? The device itself is addictive, let alone the apps in it that gives one much pleasure to remain glued. Gambling on a mobile device is almost like a hobby for some as it saves them the drama of being with persons who neither add value nor have great money-making ideas.
Unless one cannot make anything good from it, quitting is often just a diversion of attention.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on September 09, 2022, 07:18:55 AM

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It could be amended and adjusted being addicted with his mobile phone is another bigger problems as a gambler.

Online gambling is one of the new ways to gamble and it is very easy because of the ease to do it but it is more tempting that you could empty your account before you know it. The emotion is always rising and you want to keep betting to regain your loses. I was gambling online through the phone and I realize this was really more tempting to play more than offline. You can find yourself playing unnecessary gambling because you have your apps ready to play always, this is difficult to control more than of line.

That's what they owner want their costumers feel since total satisfaction can make convince people to go back playing at them since they usually urge people to feel it was entertaining and quite profitable. This is why some of them use paid streamers since they want to create a scenario which people think that gambling is really fun and it can make them rich because for them to spend more then gain more money from those their costumers.

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Quote from: Adbitco on September 09, 2022, 02:51:05 AM

It could be amended and adjusted being addicted with his mobile phone is another bigger problems as a gambler.

Online gambling is one of the new ways to gamble and it is very easy because of the ease to do it but it is more tempting that you could empty your account before you know it. The emotion is always rising and you want to keep betting to regain your loses. I was gambling online through the phone and I realize this was really more tempting to play more than offline. You can find yourself playing unnecessary gambling because you have your apps ready to play always, this is difficult to control more than of line.

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In an era that is increasingly made easier by the existence of electronic devices and social media, of course, many new technologies have emerged, including online gambling that can be played using a smartphone, laptop or PC with very easy internet access. Because it can be played anywhere and is also very relaxing.
and in my opinion, those who play it because some have a gambling mentality, and some are addicted at first, some don't know what to do but over time they like it.
It's hard to avoid because our lives are not far from our cell phones and as long as there are apps or online gambling sites they will continue to play them, unless they realize that by deleting everything or improving their game, they are more disciplined and able to control themselves and also use cold money . I think it will avoid addiction and aim to play just for fun.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 09, 2022, 02:18:46 AM

I beg to differ. The rise of mobile gambling isn't leaving people ruined and unable to quit, it is a lack of discipline. A lack of self-control that's leaving people ruined. Did you realize that there are just as many mobile apps to prevent or ban access to gambling websites as there are mobile apps themselves? Think about it. And even more to prevent addiction (although I doubt they are successful).

The industry is rising due to modern technology and I also believe that this is not the main reason why there's people get ruined but I don't think they cannot quit since there are provability that lacking of money will be one of the factor they quit. Discipline is the main factor for us not to get addicted on what we currently do, but if the person doesn't have this because they think that high risk, high reward then they are prone to be ruined by this.

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It could be amended and adjusted being addicted with his mobile phone is another bigger problems as a gambler. One thing for sure a gambler should do is not to give full attention to gambling otherwise their lives would turn upside down. Sometimes mobile gambling ease your time by going to road side to gamble nd therefore reduces over crowd most especially after covid and as a means of distancing from being affected.

Lastly he should learn to control his hunger and taste for gambling, the mentality of blow one day making him lose focused.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 09, 2022, 02:18:46 AM

I beg to differ. The rise of mobile gambling isn't leaving people ruined and unable to quit, it is a lack of discipline. A lack of self-control that's leaving people ruined. Did you realize that there are just as many mobile apps to prevent or ban access to gambling websites as there are mobile apps themselves? Think about it. And even more to prevent addiction (although I doubt they are successful).

You're absolutely right, but also these apps are designed to be as addictive as possible.

At the end of the day of course it's the responsibility of every individual, but society also should be around to help and guide them. You could compare this with drugs. Why bother making some drugs illegal when every individual should be able to control themselves?. Yes, it's their responsibility, but some guidelines at least from society are helpful.

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I beg to differ. The rise of mobile gambling isn't leaving people ruined and unable to quit, it is a lack of discipline. A lack of self-control that's leaving people ruined. Did you realize that there are just as many mobile apps to prevent or ban access to gambling websites as there are mobile apps themselves? Think about it. And even more to prevent addiction (although I doubt they are successful).

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 08, 2022, 09:03:40 PM

Quote from: Doell on September 08, 2022, 05:26:37 PM

Destroying a mobile or not having internet access, will make the gambler even more crazy, if he finds someone else's mobile phone on a relative, he will definitely use it. The case above is same as the case of my friend, unfortunately until now he is sickly if he doesn't gambling. The solution for this is appeals from within the family and people around, if he is locked up in a outlying place I doubt he will live, need a long time to recover ! But it depends on how severe the addiction.

But I think that is a good place to start, withdrawal, without any phone besides you because it's the thing that tick your addiction. And again, it's the mindset of the individual, if he wanted to stop his addiction then the person will distant himself to any phone around him. I think it's not just the addiction that needs to be tackle here, but the easy access of any casino's and gambling around with just a touch of your mobile phones.

Changing the mindset of individuals affected by gambling addiction is very necessary but I don't think it will be in his mind because once he feels addicted, it will be very hard to leave.
He needs help from the people around him and if cell phones are something he is addicted to, he should be kept from using them until he successfully cures his addiction.
Confining him in a secluded place was not a good solution because of how he could survive there, especially if he were used to all the things he had already experienced.
People who use cellphones should think about not gambling through their cellphones because it can result in them getting addicted to gambling.

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