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legendary
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What is communism? It was not even built in the USSR.
Already 30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, the younger generation does not know what it is.
In Russia, most of the population does not live richly, but there are a lot of freedoms. And do not read the press, there are many isolated cases.

If Russia is a communist country, then so should be Germany and Poland. East Germany and Poland were under communist regimes until 1990. True communism now exists only in pariah states such as DPRK and Cuba. Even these countries are now attempting to move away. China and Vietnam are communist in name only. Apart from their authoritarian regime structure, the economic system is 100% capitalist. They have realized that the Socialist/Communist economic system is not simply sustainable.

Margaret Thatcher:

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“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
legendary
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This isn't a joke, they are really trying to make their economy as great as it gets. This means that if they hurt a few people along the way, even Russians, they are fine with it. Realize that Russian ruble is literally more valuable right now than before the war, that should tell you all you need to know. Of course, this is not a free market and even with a better and bigger economy, they are losing their freedom, so people do question if that is better or not.

Some communism lovers would prefer to have less freedom but better economy, whereas some liberals would say better to have freedom and poverty. This is why its never an answer we can ever agree 100% all together.
What is communism? It was not even built in the USSR.
Already 30 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, the younger generation does not know what it is.
In Russia, most of the population does not live richly, but there are a lot of freedoms. And do not read the press, there are many isolated cases.
legendary
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This isn't a joke, they are really trying to make their economy as great as it gets. This means that if they hurt a few people along the way, even Russians, they are fine with it. Realize that Russian ruble is literally more valuable right now than before the war, that should tell you all you need to know. Of course, this is not a free market and even with a better and bigger economy, they are losing their freedom, so people do question if that is better or not.

Some communism lovers would prefer to have less freedom but better economy, whereas some liberals would say better to have freedom and poverty. This is why its never an answer we can ever agree 100% all together.
legendary
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Concerning "some citizens of Ukraine".
Let's go back a little to the past. Around the middle of the 19th century. At a time when Britain, in a sense, carried out a peacekeeping mission, and helped some part of the inhabitants of India, to defend their rights to self-determination, from a government that did not want to hear their voice and demands! Smiley
You have a history problem. Britain, France, Portugal and other countries plundered Africa, India and other islands and achieved all preferences by force. After the resettlement of Europeans in America, millions of indigenous people were destroyed there. If someone helps you, it does not mean that he wishes you well.
legendary
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^^^ Still not going to agree with the casualty figures provided (37,000 for Russia?). The US estimate for Russian losses is around 16,000 killed (and this includes PMC Wagner and the Ukrainian rebels). Other sources such as IStories, BBC News Russian and Meduza have given figures of around 4,000-5,000 dead Russian citizens. I think that the figure provided by US agencies is closer to the truth and half of that number may be from the Russian armed forces. So total of 16,000 deaths from their side, with half of it among the Ukrainian rebels and Wagner.
legendary
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It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?

Answered more than once. Ok, I will answer again - in detail, with examples, and extremely accurately! Smiley

Let me bring you back to reality first. Today, the losses of the Russian army are about 37,000 soldiers. About the wounded, crippled - I won’t tell you, there are standard statistics, how many incapacitated people per 1 killed, read it, count it!
About local separatists - no one considers them Smiley Russia does not need these garbage. Why ? As they say in the FSB - the one who betrayed once will betray the second, so the separatists of the DPR / LPR are expendable.
Yes - and there are no Luhansk and Donetsk republics - there are sewers temporarily occupied by the Rashists, but this is temporary! I am very glad that the whole adequate world - the USA, Britain, Poland, and many dozens of other countries - is helping us in the fight against the world terrorist!

Concerning "some citizens of Ukraine".
Let's go back a little to the past. Around the middle of the 19th century. At a time when Britain, in a sense, carried out a peacekeeping mission, and helped some part of the inhabitants of India, to defend their rights to self-determination, from a government that did not want to hear their voice and demands! Smiley

Then many Indians fought on the side of Britain! Do you want to talk about these? Yes, we have those too!
There were still such people in the days of Nazi Germany - both the French, and the Belgians, and the Hungarians and Romanians and Russians in huge numbers. Everywhere there are such "lovers of the other side." They are called separatists, or softly - collaborators. But in fact, these are traitors and helpers of terrorists and killer invaders. And everywhere such individuals are scorned, exiled, and often they are simply destroyed as enemies. Or do you treat them differently? Smiley

By the way - why, after Britain finished saving India from unrest, and gave freedom to the saved territory, the part that became India did not return all the "historical lands" to Pakistan? Or is it another story?

I hope I fully and accurately answered the question that interested you so much? Everything became clear, no questions left? Smiley
legendary
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You will be served in Moscow in Ukrainian, Georgian and Chechen if you go to national cafes, for example. In Russia, Ukrainian books and Ukrainian schools are also not banned.
I thought that crimes have no nationality, but because of your hatred, you will blame the Russians for all the problems.
legendary
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The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...
This is a clear example of custom articles and the opinion that is formed after reading.
Have you opened the world map?
A toilet in Russia costs from 30 to 150 dollars, my toilet costs about 100 dollars. To send this product to another region, the transport services may increase the cost of the goods.
https://www.pulscen.ru/price/440608-unitaz?page=2
And Europeans or American people believe in these nonsense.

In Russia, the state language is Russian, but in many regions there are national languages that are taught in schools, people communicate. In Chechnya, this is the Chechen language, in Chuvashia the Chuvash language, in Tatarstan - the Tatar language, I won’t bore you with enumerations. There are English, German, French schools, it is not forbidden.
And in other countries people are forbidden to speak Russian.



I love to communicate with russians Smiley
Let's start with the last one - is it forbidden to communicate in Russian somewhere? Are you just intentionally misrepresenting the essence?
Tell me - in Moscow, can I demand that the cashier serve me in Ukrainian? And Kazakh in Kazakh? And nokhchi in Chechen? I will answer - NO! Or maybe there is a Ukrainian school or library in Moscow? Also no ! Moreover, they were closed immediately after the start of aggression against Ukraine. This is a fact and can be verified. But in Ukraine there are libraries with Russian books, and schools where all education is conducted in Russian. There is no ban on the Russian language in Ukraine, there is a state language, but this is not a synonym for "banning the Russian language in Ukraine." No need to lie primitively Smiley

Regarding systemic theft and looting. I am not going to give you links to photos/videos/recordings of calls from Russian looters. It is extremely easy to find - in addition to the fact that they themselves, due to innate stupidity, film it all and post it on social networks, there is also a video from the Belarusian and Russian branches of postal companies, where martinets of the Russian Federation massively send household appliances, things, toys to their homes. Looting is one of the pillars of the Russian world. Remember when Russian terrorists shot down MH17? The very next day, local scum were selling the things of the dead - clothes, toys, perfumes ... Stolen from the dead people. This is the Russian world. So shut up about fakes, you won’t look so idiotic!
legendary
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If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...

It is strange that you refuse to answer one of my questions despite me repeating it many times. All the time you are blaming Russia. But what about the Ukrainian citizens, who are fighting on the other side? At this point, more than half of the casualties on the "Russian" side comprise of Ukrainian (or former Ukrainian citizens). You have never mentioned about them. According to conservative estimates, Russians have lost some 8,000 men. This may be an undercount, but from the available data more than 50% of these deaths come from the national militias of Donestk and Lugansk Republics. Russian citizens comprise less than half of the deaths on the "Russian" side. What if I claim that the war is between two factions within Ukraine, with external parties supporting either of the sides (Russia and Belarus supporting the rebels, and NATO supporting Kiev)?
legendary
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The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...
This is a clear example of custom articles and the opinion that is formed after reading.
Have you opened the world map?
A toilet in Russia costs from 30 to 150 dollars, my toilet costs about 100 dollars. To send this product to another region, the transport services may increase the cost of the goods.
https://www.pulscen.ru/price/440608-unitaz?page=2
And Europeans or American people believe in these nonsense.

In Russia, the state language is Russian, but in many regions there are national languages that are taught in schools, people communicate. In Chechnya, this is the Chechen language, in Chuvashia the Chuvash language, in Tatarstan - the Tatar language, I won’t bore you with enumerations. There are English, German, French schools, it is not forbidden.
And in other countries people are forbidden to speak Russian.
legendary
Activity: 3752
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The suffering of the Russians increases and with them the suffering of the world because of this stupid war on Ukraine. The Russian leaders insist on their stubbornness and continue in this war that has brought ruin and destruction to all. The economic sanctions imposed by the West cause suffering to the Russians. In return, the Ukrainian war causes suffering to the rest of the world, who are suffering in the first place People, not governments, so turning to Bitcoin may be the solution to get rid of these new restrictions that are being imposed and are increasing every day.

If you think that Ukrainians are killed by Putin, you are greatly mistaken! Kills, rapes, marauders, destroys everything that the Ukrainians created - namely the Russian people! It was he who created such an idol for himself as Putin, it is they who do not want to build a good life for themselves, but want to prevent others from living better than them. Well, or try to get hold of a little at the expense of the occupied territories! You have no idea how many ordinary Russians stole and took out of Ukraine to impoverished Russia, toilet bowls (for them, this is apparently a deficit or an inaccessible luxury), washing machines, electric kettles (although they stole, as a rule, without a stand, because they don’t know how it works electric kettle), TVs and even used delicate linen! It seems that this cannot be the case in the 21st century, but this is a fact, and hundreds and thousands of similar stories have been recorded in reality. So the problem is not in Putin ...
legendary
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I've got a kid and there are always Jewtube kids(?) vids going on at least one of the many devices.  I gotta say, there is no comparison between 'Masha and Bear', and the faggy retarded nonsense that appeals to Westerners.  The former has reasonably complex story-lines, a lot of somewhat sophisticated humor, relatively nice scenery, etc.  The latter is atrocious.  Between this observation, the conduct of the Russian military in this latest police action, and the various 'vaccine' rates, I'm definitely betting on the Russians to play a leading role after 'the turning'.

We (thinkers) all sort of know it takes 20 years to 'destabilize' a society, and we all sort of understand that the basic reason is that it takes that long to raise a generation.  I've always thought of Russian society and Russian people as being sort of beat-down dregs, violent alcoholic wrecks, mindless brainwashed sheep, etc.  Adam Curtis' 'HyperNormalisation' captures that pretty well.  What just occurred to me is that my impressions come from the Soviet and Yeltsin time-frame, and it's getting up into the magical '20 years' since that time.  Maybe while I wasn't looking the society and the people themselves have changed quite a bit and it's about time for me to at least check to see if I need to re-calibrate somewhat.

legendary
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I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

Why? Because your signature sponsor has banned you from talking about this?
Much freedom, such independence, money matters, wow revelation.
How do you feel having a ballgag put on your mouth for a few $? So much for the pride of the average Russian.
I have not participated in political discussions before, because it is a waste of time. You believe any trash article and think that your sanctions are working, but in fact they are working against you.

Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.

Spare me the bullshit, no Chinese company has bought any Renault factory and they aren't stupid enough to build one either.
Autovaz was nationalized and now its producing a death trap even Fred Flinstone would be afraid to enter in it.

The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.

These sanctions will kill Europe faster.

Again, Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.
Meanwhile, the reality is this:

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Sales of cars and light commercial vehicles in Russia in the month of June were down by 82% year-on-year to just 27,761 units according to the Moscow-based AEB. June’s sharp decline follows a May drop of 83.5% and an April drop of 78.5%.

Way to go comrade!!!!

You may not believe me, but new residential complexes are being built in Russia for thousands of Chinese specialists. The Chinese company JAC will produce cars at the factories of Moskvich.

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Why do you dislike Russia so much?
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

Why? Because your signature sponsor has banned you from talking about this?
Much freedom, such independence, money matters, wow revelation.
How do you feel having a ballgag put on your mouth for a few $? So much for the pride of the average Russian.

Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.

Spare me the bullshit, no Chinese company has bought any Renault factory and they aren't stupid enough to build one either.
Autovaz was nationalized and now its producing a death trap even Fred Flinstone would be afraid to enter in it.

The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.

These sanctions will kill Europe faster.

Again, Brezhnev said the same in the 70s.
Meanwhile, the reality is this:

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Sales of cars and light commercial vehicles in Russia in the month of June were down by 82% year-on-year to just 27,761 units according to the Moscow-based AEB. June’s sharp decline follows a May drop of 83.5% and an April drop of 78.5%.

Way to go comrade!!!!


legendary
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Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Or China, or Kazahstan if Putin starts pissing all the southern countries and Moscow will return to its glory from the times of the Golden Horde.
What he actually tried to say but his pride stopped him from saying is
- you want to see the Potemkin Russia, go to Moscow
- you want to see the reality of the poorest country in Europe, go to the southern regions of Volga and Urals, you will see poverty like in a 4th world country
Before the invasion of Crimea, when RT was actually telling the truth:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

But comrade, how is that even possible.
I thought sanctions would make you strong, invincible, and the greatest power in Duck Tales multiverse.
Just a few months ago you were bragging to me how the Russian chips are on par with western technology and look at your country, you're building the best cars in the world, with no shitty air conditioning, no useless traction control, no death traps like airbags, where are those problems?

I kept wondering why those sanctions are useless every time a Russian office gets a microphone they scream at the west to lift them or else Shocked

I won't talk about situation with Ukraine.

But you do not have such cars
https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/629e6cff25adf4180862e698?t=3  

I told you that time that I have a good imported car.
I have a friend who is in the business of selling cars. Chinese businessmen have bought a Renault factory and are bilding another big car factory.
The problem will be solved in a couple of years.

If you have money, then you can buy any car from the US or Europe. There are no sanctions in practice.

Europe prospered because it bought cheap resources from Russia and sold expensive equipment to Russia. With these sanctions, the Europeans shot themselves in the head. They are losing markets and the price of resources is going up.
These sanctions will kill Europe faster.
legendary
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Every country has right to progress - but the lords have kept that currency control in their hands. If this trade of YUan and Dirham continues than surly USD will lose the power which they would not want.

Even now the United States Dollar is used for more than 95% of the international trade. China tried really hard to make CNY as one of the trade currencies, but other countries refused to trust their manipulated national currency. AED is used only within the middle east and it doesn't have much acceptability beyond that region. Euro is also not preferred now, because of inflation. JPY and GBP used to be prominent a few years back. But these currencies have also weakened a lot against the US Dollar.
sr. member
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Heard in my local new that Russian asked the buyers to pay in Ruble. But I am sure USA will not let this happen as the world follows the petrodollar rule.
If the world starts paying in Ruble than surly the Ruble will get strength which is not what EU and USA would want. But whatever the situation is Russian economy will not collapse that is for sure.

Here in India, some of the private companies are already importing Russian crude oil and coal by making the payment in Chinese Yuan and UAE Dirhams. They can't pay the Russians in Euros or USD due to the sanctions. As a result Chinese Yuan is now increasingly being used for international trade involving Russian commodities. Hardly anyone prefer the Ruble right now, because of its volatility. Some of the companies explored the possibility of making the payments using the Indian Rupee, but the Russians were not interested.
Every country has right to progress - but the lords have kept that currency control in their hands. If this trade of YUan and Dirham continues than surly USD will lose the power which they would not want. I assume taking revenge with Russia is not a good option. EU should reconsider the sanctions to make peace with Russia and other world
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Or China, or Kazahstan if Putin starts pissing all the southern countries and Moscow will return to its glory from the times of the Golden Horde.
What he actually tried to say but his pride stopped him from saying is
- you want to see the Potemkin Russia, go to Moscow
- you want to see the reality of the poorest country in Europe, go to the southern regions of Volga and Urals, you will see poverty like in a 4th world country
Before the invasion of Crimea, when RT was actually telling the truth:
https://www.rt.com/news/russia-city-utilities-hot-water-indoor-plumbing-251/

But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

But comrade, how is that even possible.
I thought sanctions would make you strong, invincible, and the greatest power in Duck Tales multiverse.
Just a few months ago you were bragging to me how the Russian chips are on par with western technology and look at your country, you're building the best cars in the world, with no shitty air conditioning, no useless traction control, no death traps like airbags, where are those problems?

I kept wondering why those sanctions are useless every time a Russian office gets a microphone they scream at the west to lift them or else Shocked


legendary
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Do not die for Putin
The territorial composition of Russia includes not only republics. More details on this page.
http://kcbux.ru/Statyy/ZA_zizny/za-016_karta-RF.html
I have said many times that it is not worth reading news about draft laws in Russia, because they change very often.
In Russia, large shadow markets, exchangers operate in all major cities.

OK.. since you are residing in Russia, you maybe having access to better information. For me it is confusing, because I have heard about contradicting news regarding the status of Bitcoin in Russia.

In other words, the USA is shooting itself in the foot. Who would have thought it. Just to think that Gaddafi was killed for wanting to sell oil in Euros. And Saddam Hussein the same. There you have the weapons of mass destruction.

The United States is misusing the position of USD as the global trade and reserve currency. This position enables them to take loans worth trillions, at extremely low interest rates. In short, US is getting rich at the expense of other countries (who use USD for international trade). But there is no alternative available as of now. Other fiat currencies (including EUR and CNY) are even more prone to inflation when compared to the USD. I would prefer a decentralized currency such as Bitcoin, but only two countries have made it legal tender till now.

Believe me, if he lives in the RF, he does not have better information about anything, particularly about anything happening in the RF.
Sarcasm?
Russia is a very big country, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean that you were in Russia. Each territorial subject of the country has a completely different economic situation.But there are no problems with cryptocurrencies in Russia, because there are enough other problems in Russia now.

All right, I reckon this is new to me. So, if you were in Moscow, it does not mean you are in Russia? It may be the case that I have not followed the latest developments of the front and Ukraine has taken Moscow then?

Jokes apart, I understand that the economy of the large cities (Moscow, St Petersburg,...)  is quite different from the rest of RF, not to mention the remote regions which are pretty much meaningless in politics - in fact the stats show how Adolf Putin manages that quite well in the army: most of the draft and most of the dead are from the regions.
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Since July 1, 2022 individuals - Russian residents have the right in a calendar month to transfer from their account in a Russian bank to his account abroad or to another person no more than $ 1 million or the same amount in the equivalent in another foreign currency.

https://www.cbr.ru/press/event/?id=13976
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