The scam of FAKE fixed matches - page 2.

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Quote from: South Park on March 13, 2024, 06:32:15 PM

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People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

Exactly, greed and ignorance ends up making people blindly believe in this even though they know it's all set up and they believe they are taking advantage of this situation.

True, but at the same time, how greedy a person can get? At some point those people need to realize that it is going to be impossible for someone to offer them information that could be worth millions of dollars for nothing, that sort of arrangement can only happen under very specific circumstances, while the rest of the time whenever a person were to find themselves facing such a proposal, they need to be well aware that it is a scam and nothing more.

I believe that greed will always exist, as you mention. However, I believe that anyone who understands that this is a fraudulent scheme will be able to enter but will enter with money that can be lost.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on January 31, 2024, 06:40:27 AM

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If I hear of match fixing, I will stop because I have known already that it is a scam.

The gamblers who will fall victims to Fake Fixed Matches are gamblers who are.
(a) Greedy.
(b) Gamblers not gambling for fun.
(c) Gamblers who have not been scammed before.
Greedy gamblers who want to cheat the process and just want to make quick money from gambling will easily be happy and willing to place bets on this fixed fake matches. Gamblers not gambling for fun will also like fixed games, they are not interested in the fun involved with making a prediction from research, and then watching the games to see if your picks will enter. Gamblers who have not been scammed before may think that there are no scammers in gambling. Scammers are everywhere.

I really hate and disbelief that anyone would really gamble for fun, although I'm not saying it's not possible but how many persons here are actually gambling for fun, to gamble for fun the stake and what you want to win should not even move you maybe your trying to support your team and showing your zeal by putting a stake on them.

You also need to be rich and financially stable and your not looking at profits in any way. So for real there are very few people gambling for fun and I can bet your not one of then either so you either stop deciving yourself or you face the truth.

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Quote from: Pumared on March 06, 2024, 09:04:52 PM

Quote from: STT on March 06, 2024, 06:07:31 PM

People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

Exactly, greed and ignorance ends up making people blindly believe in this even though they know it's all set up and they believe they are taking advantage of this situation.

True, but at the same time, how greedy a person can get? At some point those people need to realize that it is going to be impossible for someone to offer them information that could be worth millions of dollars for nothing, that sort of arrangement can only happen under very specific circumstances, while the rest of the time whenever a person were to find themselves facing such a proposal, they need to be well aware that it is a scam and nothing more.

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Quote from: South Park on February 28, 2024, 06:27:29 PM

At least you learned from the experience and now know those kind of offers are all a scam, however there are many people that are so obsessed with the idea of making some easy money, that they cannot let go of this idea that at least some of those offers must be real, so they keep trying their luck hoping to finally find it, but the only thing they get is more of the same and lose even more money in the process, which is a shame, as they could have saved themselves all of that money lost by simply thinking a little bit about it and coming to the conclusion that no one on their right mind will make an offer like that.

I think everyone has been in that situation. I have also been a victim of fraud from fake prediction sites. They said that they already had affiliations with several bookies who did match fixing. They also provide several testimonials from people they say they have successfully helped. At that time, without thinking twice, I immediately joined and just like Samlucky, they never contacted me again. They only took a small amount so that this case did not lead to legal proceedings. I lost $10 on the registration fee. At that time I didn't think that if they knew the score before the game, why would they offer it to someone else and have to pay for it?

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Quote from: Questat on March 07, 2024, 12:09:50 AM

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Quote from: STT on March 06, 2024, 06:07:31 PM

People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

Exactly, greed and ignorance ends up making people blindly believe in this even though they know it's all set up and they believe they are taking advantage of this situation.

Given fixed matches are happening but the challenge is still on how to spot the right side? As a gambler, we should bet on the right side to win, but there's no one is ever consistent with that, the real situation is we are still guessing, so we are still gambling. Better don't believe on people who are selling information about fixed matches as it is just likely a scam, who would sell a fixed match if they can bet on their own, the secret is safe and they can continue to abuse it.... Sometimes we need to carefully analyze the offer, when it's too good to be true, we should know the drill.

Yes, if you want to bet you can follow their tips. However, you will have to follow someone who you know is scamming people on a large scale. This in itself is already very difficult to live with.

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Quote from: Pumared on March 06, 2024, 09:04:52 PM

Quote from: STT on March 06, 2024, 06:07:31 PM

People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

Exactly, greed and ignorance ends up making people blindly believe in this even though they know it's all set up and they believe they are taking advantage of this situation.

Given fixed matches are happening but the challenge is still on how to spot the right side? As a gambler, we should bet on the right side to win, but there's no one is ever consistent with that, the real situation is we are still guessing, so we are still gambling. Better don't believe on people who are selling information about fixed matches as it is just likely a scam, who would sell a fixed match if they can bet on their own, the secret is safe and they can continue to abuse it.... Sometimes we need to carefully analyze the offer, when it's too good to be true, we should know the drill.

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Quote from: STT on March 06, 2024, 06:07:31 PM

People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

Exactly, greed and ignorance ends up making people blindly believe in this even though they know it's all set up and they believe they are taking advantage of this situation.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on February 27, 2024, 11:42:52 PM

Not only this case, there are many cases of such which I have came across about ads which if you click it, it will takes you to another gambling prediction site. I have been in such situations countless times where they will redirect me to another site where they say testimony upon testimony which are all fake. and most of this result are edited which you will never know it's all fake. Sometimes before you will realise that this people are fake, you might have fall victim. I have fell Victim with them before. They told me to pay registration fee sothat they will be sending me game code to play every week after sending the money, I waited for response throughout 24hrs but all to no avail. I waited for 48hrs nothing to show that they will send the game I chatted them up no response immediately i threatened them they block me that is how I stop following site that promotes fake predictions.

You learned the hard way too.
Most of these scammers are lurking in Telegram, the home of scammers. They could easily hide there and they will just keep on buying new SIM cards so they can register over and over again.
I don't really believe in bookies that know the results of the game unless they are small leagues. Because they can pay one team or the coach just to end up losing the game. That is the reason why I won't believe those scammers too.
I have not yet been a victim of this kind of scheme but I did bump into one, in Telegram, of course. And all I can say is they are truly persistent. From one name to another name will come popping out of your Telegram account and they will keep on asking the same question until you bite. I bet they are a group of scammers who are attacking new members of Sports Chat places and they will keep on coming until you agree to their offer.
I tried chatting with them but didn't go as far as paying the said subscription fees, I know it's a scam but I was just curious about how they will work it out if one doesn't agree. Luckily, they stopped after I hadn't made a reply for a long time. Cheesy

I guess ignoring them literally will be the key to avoiding them.

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People believe in rumors and that information gets out, the story sells the bet. The mistake is ever going near a false game or corrupt practise, its not a one off example that being willing to accept this falsehood leads to no good and a trick is played. These things have been happening going back to the Greek fables, always learn the old stories because some mistakes are eternal in their fallacy and appeal to human nature.

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Quote from: GigaBit on February 29, 2024, 12:43:23 AM

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When it comes to promoting fixed matches, 99.99% are scams. I'm saving a very limit percentage only because we actually are not entirely aware of negotiations under the table between promotions, players, and teams. And there were in fact times when post-game investigations found out that the games indeed were fixed. But that isn't the case with all these social media promotions of fixed matches. They're all fake. If a game is fixed, the word wouldn't spread out in the open. Nobody should take these offers seriously.

Fixed match information will never be published prior to that match. It is very secretive. If someone wants to accept deposits by saying such offers, then it is better to avoid it completely. Those scams may have inside news about some sports, they want to sell that information to common people in exchange for money, moreover, they can call for betting scams by depositing money on various scam sites. I myself got some such offers on my Telegram channel. But as I have preconceived notions about this, I did not fall into their trap, but those who are new are more at risk. They will deny them the opportunity to withdraw after receiving their full deposit.

However, I have followed a few fixed match bets where the information provided did not match the actual game. I would advise gamblers who are targeting fixed matches for guaranteed wins they should remove of this mentality.

Anyone that actually had secret information about the score or the result of a match will never share that with anyone, and it is not difficult to understand why, after all if I knew what was going to be the result of a match in advance I could make a huge bet knowing there is no way I was going to lose, so someone with that information could make millions in a short amount of time even if their starting capital was small, making anyone offering that information for free or for a low price a scammer in my eyes.

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Sure they will almost never become public, it is so hard to find a leak since this society is very closed and not easy to get any insight.
What sometimes gives it away is when odds are too odds to be true.
There is a classic name for that, the "vegas trap" . I have often seen that in NCAA basketball, teams that should be an 8-10 point favourite are only favoured by 2, even though they are not resting anybody or have injured players.

And often these traps often go in the direction of that team that should never be favoured in the first place.
I don't know what it is, but this stuff looks so off sometimes.

There is a match in Korean womans basketball in 3 hours today. 1st place (26:3 record) plays at 2nd to last place (8:21 record) and they are only a 1 point favourite. Last 3 games they played and the first place team won the handicap pre game was around 15 points and even more. So strange sometimes.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 31, 2024, 01:16:22 AM

When it comes to promoting fixed matches, 99.99% are scams. I'm saving a very limit percentage only because we actually are not entirely aware of negotiations under the table between promotions, players, and teams. And there were in fact times when post-game investigations found out that the games indeed were fixed. But that isn't the case with all these social media promotions of fixed matches. They're all fake. If a game is fixed, the word wouldn't spread out in the open. Nobody should take these offers seriously.

Fixed match information will never be published prior to that match. It is very secretive. If someone wants to accept deposits by saying such offers, then it is better to avoid it completely. Those scams may have inside news about some sports, they want to sell that information to common people in exchange for money, moreover, they can call for betting scams by depositing money on various scam sites. I myself got some such offers on my Telegram channel. But as I have preconceived notions about this, I did not fall into their trap, but those who are new are more at risk. They will deny them the opportunity to withdraw after receiving their full deposit.

However, I have followed a few fixed match bets where the information provided did not match the actual game. I would advise gamblers who are targeting fixed matches for guaranteed wins they should remove of this mentality.

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It's so hard that you yourself become a victim of a fake or scam platform that you thought was the right thing to do. Just because of the trust you gave there. I hope that the rest of us will learn from people who have been victimized like the one shown here by OP.

Because the scammer will never disappear from the field where scammers can get money, so just be cautious and smart at all times.

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Quote from: South Park on February 28, 2024, 06:27:29 PM

Quote from: Samlucky O on February 27, 2024, 11:42:52 PM

Not only this case, there are many cases of such which I have came across about ads which if you click it, it will takes you to another gambling prediction site. I have been in such situations countless times where they will redirect me to another site where they say testimony upon testimony which are all fake. and most of this result are edited which you will never know it's all fake. Sometimes before you will realise that this people are fake, you might have fall victim. I have fell Victim with them before. They told me to pay registration fee sothat they will be sending me game code to play every week after sending the money, I waited for response throughout 24hrs but all to no avail. I waited for 48hrs nothing to show that they will send the game I chatted them up no response immediately i threatened them they block me that is how I stop following site that promotes fake predictions.

At least you learned from the experience and now know those kind of offers are all a scam, however there are many people that are so obsessed with the idea of making some easy money, that they cannot let go of this idea that at least some of those offers must be real, so they keep trying their luck hoping to finally find it, but the only thing they get is more of the same and lose even more money in the process, which is a shame, as they could have saved themselves all of that money lost by simply thinking a little bit about it and coming to the conclusion that no one on their right mind will make an offer like that.

These people are always looking for easy profit. But I really don't understand why even though they know everything is planned, those who believe think they aren't being deceived either.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on February 27, 2024, 11:42:52 PM

Not only this case, there are many cases of such which I have came across about ads which if you click it, it will takes you to another gambling prediction site. I have been in such situations countless times where they will redirect me to another site where they say testimony upon testimony which are all fake. and most of this result are edited which you will never know it's all fake. Sometimes before you will realise that this people are fake, you might have fall victim. I have fell Victim with them before. They told me to pay registration fee sothat they will be sending me game code to play every week after sending the money, I waited for response throughout 24hrs but all to no avail. I waited for 48hrs nothing to show that they will send the game I chatted them up no response immediately i threatened them they block me that is how I stop following site that promotes fake predictions.

The ads now beg the question will blogs and website chose to spread fake ads because of the revenue they get? Why lure people into bad websites because they pay to for commission, you will see this in good and popular websites and that's because they don't investigate on ads, they just accept any offer and deals that comes there way and they just paste the banner on their websites because of revenue, people are wicked.

Someone once told me that Leagues that are not common and not managed well by fifa are easily manipulated and indeed there are games that are been fixed and are listed in some bookmarkers to add to other gambling website and they spread out the game and tell the people how it's going to end but you must pay to have the real score of the event and it does work. Why I believe some part of the story is when I watched one match where a player intentionally refused to scored in a penalty without anything, that game made me believe his part of the story but no matter how they brand it, it's a scam to me.

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Quote from: Samlucky O on February 27, 2024, 11:42:52 PM

Not only this case, there are many cases of such which I have came across about ads which if you click it, it will takes you to another gambling prediction site. I have been in such situations countless times where they will redirect me to another site where they say testimony upon testimony which are all fake. and most of this result are edited which you will never know it's all fake. Sometimes before you will realise that this people are fake, you might have fall victim. I have fell Victim with them before. They told me to pay registration fee sothat they will be sending me game code to play every week after sending the money, I waited for response throughout 24hrs but all to no avail. I waited for 48hrs nothing to show that they will send the game I chatted them up no response immediately i threatened them they block me that is how I stop following site that promotes fake predictions.

At least you learned from the experience and now know those kind of offers are all a scam, however there are many people that are so obsessed with the idea of making some easy money, that they cannot let go of this idea that at least some of those offers must be real, so they keep trying their luck hoping to finally find it, but the only thing they get is more of the same and lose even more money in the process, which is a shame, as they could have saved themselves all of that money lost by simply thinking a little bit about it and coming to the conclusion that no one on their right mind will make an offer like that.

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Not only this case, there are many cases of such which I have came across about ads which if you click it, it will takes you to another gambling prediction site. I have been in such situations countless times where they will redirect me to another site where they say testimony upon testimony which are all fake. and most of this result are edited which you will never know it's all fake. Sometimes before you will realise that this people are fake, you might have fall victim. I have fell Victim with them before. They told me to pay registration fee sothat they will be sending me game code to play every week after sending the money, I waited for response throughout 24hrs but all to no avail. I waited for 48hrs nothing to show that they will send the game I chatted them up no response immediately i threatened them they block me that is how I stop following site that promotes fake predictions.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on February 23, 2024, 11:58:35 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 13, 2024, 01:13:19 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on February 11, 2024, 06:33:34 AM

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That's why if we get an offer from someone we don't know, we should just skip it and not contact them again, even though they offer a way to win a lot of money from gambling. That seems like a promise that is too easy to come true, but it won't happen unless we own the casino and run the casino ourselves, and then we can get revenue from the casino. We must protect ourselves well and will not easily believe all the offers that come to us, especially if we use the internet where we never meet the person who makes the attractive offer. And if we only used gambling as entertainment, we would not think that it is a way to make money from casinos so we would really never contact such people. We just want to enjoy enough gambling games in our free time.

We also won't make a hasty decision when we see an offer like that and will look for more information to find out what it really is. This is a careful attitude we take to avoid fraud, which often occurs, and perhaps we have even experienced it. We don't want to experience it again so we can only be careful about what is offered.

Hahaha that true and of course if everything is guaranteed to be able to produce more wins then they don't need to make any offers because they can use it themselves to make more money.
In fact, if we think about things like this rationally and logically, we will find the answer that they are not experts but only aim to make personal profits by taking advantage of other gamblers.

Yes, they make good money betting on games where they already know the outcome. However, to increase these values even further, they sell and if in doubt they may even have affiliate links or something along those lines. So doing this makes sense, even though I don't agree with this situation.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 13, 2024, 01:13:19 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on February 11, 2024, 06:33:34 AM

~snip~

That's why if we get an offer from someone we don't know, we should just skip it and not contact them again, even though they offer a way to win a lot of money from gambling. That seems like a promise that is too easy to come true, but it won't happen unless we own the casino and run the casino ourselves, and then we can get revenue from the casino. We must protect ourselves well and will not easily believe all the offers that come to us, especially if we use the internet where we never meet the person who makes the attractive offer. And if we only used gambling as entertainment, we would not think that it is a way to make money from casinos so we would really never contact such people. We just want to enjoy enough gambling games in our free time.

We also won't make a hasty decision when we see an offer like that and will look for more information to find out what it really is. This is a careful attitude we take to avoid fraud, which often occurs, and perhaps we have even experienced it. We don't want to experience it again so we can only be careful about what is offered.

Hahaha that true and of course if everything is guaranteed to be able to produce more wins then they don't need to make any offers because they can use it themselves to make more money.
In fact, if we think about things like this rationally and logically, we will find the answer that they are not experts but only aim to make personal profits by taking advantage of other gamblers.
In gambling, whether it casino games or sports betting, everything has uncertainty and also poses a big risk for gamblers.
If you are easily fooled by various offers that seem attractive then it is clear that only losses will occur in the future.
In this day and age, there are many people out there who try to deceive the public just to make profit, we must always be careful about things like this.
After all, we have been gambling for long time and have had various experiences so we have to be able to ensure that everything they offer is not guarantee of winning, we have to be little smarter in gambling.

There are many sources of information that can be obtained and we can look for much more precise conclusions regarding each offer that is made, don't let us be blinded by the ambition to win and make careless steps in gambling.

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Quote from: South Park on February 21, 2024, 05:41:36 PM

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It is because of this that people should always remain vigilant and not trust that those filters are going to protect them, they need to always analyze all the offers they read on social media and if one of those offers sounds to be too good to be true, it is better for them to stay out of it, as it is not the opportunity to make easy money they think it is, and instead it is an opportunity for the scammers behind those offers to take away their money.

Yes, but most people who are new to both, social media and cryptocurrencies, barely understand this thing and they don't think it through. The biggest reason for this is that they don't have enough knowledge about cryptocurrencies and they think that they are a way to earn quick bucks which is why when they see something too good to be true, they think it might be true and they might get a lot of money in a short period without doing much.

I know that they should be vigilant but they will only do that if they understand the risks involved and don't think that everything they see on social media or the internet is true, however, unfortunately, most newbies don't understand these things and scammers use this thing in their favour.

Without a doubt their inexperience is a huge factor that allows scammers to get their way with them, but even if this explains in part their behavior, at the same time I still find it inexcusable they fall for something that is such an obvious scam, after all when was the last time someone offered you a fortune while you were just walking down the street? Never I would guess and I am pretty sure this is the case for almost everyone as well, so why do those people think there is going to be someone kind enough to do this for them? And with such a simple train of thought those people could have saved themselves from getting scammed, even if they knew nothing about this market.

I agree that it is indisputable that someone falls for this because to be able to enter you necessarily need to know that it is fake and you already know the result. So, it is at least strange for someone to continue and still complain about this later on.

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