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Quote from: NotATether on August 28, 2022, 06:45:58 AM

Think of it this way:

September is like Black Friday for bitcoin and some other cryptos. Massive discount on the price. It's too bad people don't see it that way; all the advertising in the world for "30% off Bitcoin price" is still going to leave people unconvinced Roll Eyes

There are people who lose money in Bitcoin falls and who will get richer by buying dips.

What you say is about the second people type who are ready to buy dips. They prepare money to buy dips, accumulate more Bitcoin. The first type are people who long Bitcoin with leverage, or have loan to buy Bitcoin. If it falls, they would be panic selling. They are losers.

Another loser type is people who believe Bitcoin will fall in September and open short positions. If short squeeze happens, they lose money.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on August 26, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

September seems to be an unfriendly month for Bitcoin as investors and holders alike tend to lock their profits ahead of the year's ending to avoid unpleasant news from it's crippling effect. Statistics show for past years in this month how the prices tend to experience a worsening nosedive than other months. Although in June, Bitcoin remained at the benchmark of $17.500

Think of it this way:

September is like Black Friday for bitcoin and some other cryptos. Massive discount on the price. It's too bad people don't see it that way; all the advertising in the world for "30% off Bitcoin price" is still going to leave people unconvinced Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on August 28, 2022, 04:44:49 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2022, 12:40:30 PM

People always tend to look for patterns on a market that is not strictly governed with such. The more we try to look for these things and magnify it to make a point, the more we are lead to making bad choices because of the 'patterns' we produce. Maybe try to look for reasons why the upcoming month is already looming with reds? Is it because of other movements on other markets? Governments on different policies that may affect crypto? Because one thing's for sure, those things that I mentioned may be the reason, and not because a pattern has been established and traders automatically agree to it all of a sudden.

You are right but I was thinking when I heard the news about Powel and the Fed this week, which caused the markets to fall, that going into a traditionally bearish month with the current economic situation it doesn't seem likely to bring us much joy.

The pattern can be broken but it doesn't look like it will be this September.

Yes, I also read the news recently and it is possible that this was triggered by Fed Governor Jerome Powell's comments about the premature easing of monetary policy too soon. And various factors besides the global crisis, wars also affect the crypto or bitcoin market.
looks like September will be a good month to make a purchase, I don't really care about the previous bitcoin data or trail as it all happens due to various factors with different occurrences every month and year.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 27, 2022, 12:40:30 PM

People always tend to look for patterns on a market that is not strictly governed with such. The more we try to look for these things and magnify it to make a point, the more we are lead to making bad choices because of the 'patterns' we produce. Maybe try to look for reasons why the upcoming month is already looming with reds? Is it because of other movements on other markets? Governments on different policies that may affect crypto? Because one thing's for sure, those things that I mentioned may be the reason, and not because a pattern has been established and traders automatically agree to it all of a sudden.

You are right but I was thinking when I heard the news about Powel and the Fed this week, which caused the markets to fall, that going into a traditionally bearish month with the current economic situation it doesn't seem likely to bring us much joy.

The pattern can be broken but it doesn't look like it will be this September.

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Now more than any other time Crypto/Bitcoin market is following US stock market movement, so I'm not sure older records on which month is better or worth for Bitcoin is going to mean that much, particularly records before March 2020 as that was the time Covid started to cause a big dump in US market and Bitcoin started following SPX chart almost candle by candle since then with some small exceptions here and there.

I believe until Bitcoin shows some sign of decoupling from stocks we have to follow the US market, the printings, rate hikes and anything that can positively or negatively affect US market and subsequently whole cryptocurency market, I'm hoping for a decoupling at some point personally.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on August 27, 2022, 10:13:27 AM

Quote from: Majestic-milf on August 26, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

With a previous record of failure, can investors and hodlers alike still hold instead of closing their stock or is this year going to be different since BTC is trading at $21,406 as at the time of writing.

The price of Bitcoin today was greatly affected by the war between Russia and Ukraine, so you never can tell the outcome of Bitcoin for the month of September till then, because looking at the chart it clearly shows September has never been favourable for Bitcoin because of one reason or another, but for me, I strongly believe this year there is going to be a difference, because Bitcoin has been bearish for quite some time now, and the month of September may look promising, if only there is no global economic crisis.

Looking at the war in Ukraine and Bitcoin, although we all know that Ukraine was planning on adoption of Cryptocurrency before the war but we can just conclude that the Russia Ukraine war was responsible for the massive fallout of Bitcoin price. The market is programmed in a way that it will always goes up and down to balance price momentum.

The fall of Bitcoin price had already started before the Russian Ukrainian war and I think the war might have made many investors especially the residents in the affected region to have sold part of their holdings to foot bills and other necessity. We can't proudly admit that the price of Bitcoin was after by the war. The war may contribution but should not be the sole reason.

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Highlighting the data in this way will give wrong results because the rate of change from one month to another is misleading, as the price increase in one month will affect the next month and so on, perhaps the average of several months will be appropriate, or stripping the price of the effect of the latest results.

In general, we can say that the last months of the year are generally better, and there are no more details about the rest of the months.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on August 27, 2022, 12:45:17 PM

There is nothing like the September effect and you theory to it isn't factual. Although last year and few years before that there has been drop. But if we are taking history to make a conclusive judgement then in 2017 a very important year for bitcoin we would see at September bitcoin was at a steady rising stage, as at September 2017 Bitcoin was less than $5k but during the month of September it manage to maintain a figure to to far from what it started and carried in on into the next month, and there has been some similarities in subsequent year.

I won't say September has been a bullish month for Bitcoin looking down history but it hasn't been a month we saw a drastic fall in The price of bitcoin and probably this year would be same.

I dont really believe that much when it comes to some patterns or histories which comparing up the present or future into it but its not really that bad to take up some consideration on looking to have at least the

idea on how the price had been behaving in between years but doesnt mean that it would really be doing just as the same on the next year.For now we are almost ending this month of August which
do ends up on being bear and high probability that this would continue on next month but nothing is assured.We arent able to make out some changes in movement if we dont see any
sentiment that would affect the market or some catalyst but lets see on how it would really be started up.

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There is nothing like the September effect and you theory to it isn't factual. Although last year and few years before that there has been drop. But if we are taking history to make a conclusive judgement then in 2017 a very important year for bitcoin we would see at September bitcoin was at a steady rising stage, as at September 2017 Bitcoin was less than $5k but during the month of September it manage to maintain a figure to to far from what it started and carried in on into the next month, and there has been some similarities in subsequent year.

I won't say September has been a bullish month for Bitcoin looking down history but it hasn't been a month we saw a drastic fall in The price of bitcoin and probably this year would be same.

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People always tend to look for patterns on a market that is not strictly governed with such. The more we try to look for these things and magnify it to make a point, the more we are lead to making bad choices because of the 'patterns' we produce. Maybe try to look for reasons why the upcoming month is already looming with reds? Is it because of other movements on other markets? Governments on different policies that may affect crypto? Because one thing's for sure, those things that I mentioned may be the reason, and not because a pattern has been established and traders automatically agree to it all of a sudden.

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it's just a record from previous history when you look at last year in september it fell just a few percent as well as now, but look after that in october it experienced an increase that was more than a decrease in september so people will throw it away once again to give the opportunity buyers to buy low now and enjoy short term gains by the end of the year, so it doesn't look like we're going to have such a long decline this month

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i think there are more economicle things around recent dump. september is a bearish month as we all know. but with the rate hikes and recent decision of QT is the most effective reason this dump. anyone who dont know about QT i will put a link below for educate about QT.

https://www.investopedia.com/quantitative-tightening-6361478

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With a previous record of failure, can investors and hodlers alike still hold instead of closing their stock or is this year going to be different since BTC is trading at $21,406 as at the time of writing.

The price of Bitcoin today was greatly affected by the war between Russia and Ukraine, so you never can tell the outcome of Bitcoin for the month of September till then, because looking at the chart it clearly shows September has never been favourable for Bitcoin because of one reason or another, but for me, I strongly believe this year there is going to be a difference, because Bitcoin has been bearish for quite some time now, and the month of September may look promising, if only there is no global economic crisis.

If the price of Bitcoin can maintain the current price not to go down more than $20k in this month of August, showed that September will be a month Bitcoin users will never forget in the community when the price hit $60k. I don't think, there will be economy crisis anymore because many governments has created many platform to help their citizens not to experience what happened during the pandemic some years ago in the global economy. September will be more better than this month because the price will definitely move fast in September for people to have hope that the price will reach $65k or $70k before the end of the year.

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You can get the Bitcoin Monthly Return from https://cryptorank.io/price/bitcoin

It is historic data from past years. This year, it can be repeated or will be different. If you feel it will be repeated, you can exit your position and wait for lower price. It helps you to be safe in total fiat or stable coin value you have.

If you want to bet that this year will be different, hold your Bitcoin.

No approach is perfect, exit or hold, choose one and accept risk.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on August 26, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

With a previous record of failure, can investors and hodlers alike still hold instead of closing their stock or is this year going to be different since BTC is trading at $21,406 as at the time of writing.

The price of Bitcoin today was greatly affected by the war between Russia and Ukraine, so you never can tell the outcome of Bitcoin for the month of September till then, because looking at the chart it clearly shows September has never been favourable for Bitcoin because of one reason or another, but for me, I strongly believe this year there is going to be a difference, because Bitcoin has been bearish for quite some time now, and the month of September may look promising, if only there is no global economic crisis.

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on August 26, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

With a previous record of failure, can investors and hodlers alike still hold instead of closing their stock or is this year going to be different since BTC is trading at $21,406 as at the time of writing.

Let me start by saying the more we look at times, the lesser we see, this is why I don't search too deeply on the things that pertain to Bitcoin and other markets because some economic reviews and statistics could confuse us, or just be a distraction. Without wasting time, four factors are to be watched for this September which is as follows;

1. Inflation figures
2. Market sentiment
3 Ethereum Merge
4. Other unexpected news

I mentioned Ethereum merge because its news helped cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin to rise in July. Who knows what its realization in September could be?

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Quote from: Majestic-milf on August 26, 2022, 08:49:47 PM

September seems to be an unfriendly month for Bitcoin

You are making the common mistake of only looking at part of the market and not the whole picture. Each time there is a drop, there has to be something going on. Either a huge rise that happened before the drop or an ongoing downtrend of a bear market.

Take 2021 for example. In July and August price goes up 79% ($29k to $52k) and then in September there is a drop.
Same with 2020.
This is also why in both 2015 and 2016 price is actually going up because the drop already happened and that is the time for recovery.

I'd say 2022 looks more like 2015/2016 considering that the market already crashed and it is time for recovery.

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And surprisingly, the poor record of Bitcoin for Sept tallies with the decline experienced in the stock market. For instance, the statistics shown for the US S&P 500 average downturn for Sept is 0.7% for the last 25 years.

The only reason for any possible future drops could be the fact that people have been brainwashed in recent years to think that whenever US economy falls apart, they should panic sell their bitcoins instead of buying it as the only existing hedge against inflation.
And US economy is falling apart these days...

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September seems to be an unfriendly month for Bitcoin as investors and holders alike tend to lock their profits ahead of the year's ending to avoid unpleasant news from it's crippling effect. Statistics show for past years in this month how the prices tend to experience a worsening nosedive than other months. Although in June, Bitcoin remained at the benchmark of $17.500

And surprisingly, the poor record of Bitcoin for Sept tallies with the decline experienced in the stock market. For instance, the statistics shown for the US S&P 500 average downturn for Sept is 0.7% for the last 25 years.

With a previous record of failure, can investors and hodlers alike still hold instead of closing their stock or is this year going to be different since BTC is trading at $21,406 as at the time of writing.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/why-september-is-shaping-up-to-be-a-potentially-ugly-month-for-bitcoin-price

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