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Quote from: Yamifoud on November 25, 2022, 08:52:04 AM

Capital measures your possible profit and losses.
Huge capital can be if huge risk as well but that was not the mean thing in trading because the real player is how you manage your fund and the strategies used. Because no matter how huge is your capital if mismanage and never have control of it, losses can be possible in end. So, if you put a huge amount into trading be sure that you already have a backup with knowledge and skill otherwise, you will no longer see your money back in your pocket anymore.

Large capital is more suitable for investment, probably every trader strives to have a large capital that can be invested and receive passive income. A large trading deposit is to some extent a big risk, because you need to be prepared for large amounts. Also, if a trader has good results in trading with small amounts, it does not mean that he will have such results with a much larger deposit.

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It is one of the recipes for making a fortune with trading. A passive trader like trading just a few times in a week or a month but with huge capital is more effective to win and bag hold profits rather than someone who scalps and day trades but only has a little with the capital.
That's a huge difference and I agree that having capital is something to think about when you trade. And that's the same in investing, huge investments are the ones who takes the most risk but also gets the most reward.

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Quote from: Leebabe on November 25, 2022, 03:27:09 AM

Capital is a major part of trading but not the only one. It in fluences the profit that comes in the loss that may occur when the market is very poor. Huge capitals attract huge profits when the bull is present, but when the bear is around the corner you smell a great loss if greed sets in.

Capital measures your possible profit and losses.
Huge capital can be if huge risk as well but that was not the mean thing in trading because the real player is how you manage your fund and the strategies used. Because no matter how huge is your capital if mismanage and never have control of it, losses can be possible in end. So, if you put a huge amount into trading be sure that you already have a backup with knowledge and skill otherwise, you will no longer see your money back in your pocket anymore.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

When it comes to trading, capital makes the difference. For it hits me hard to know that same energy and technicality put in making about $500 is also synonymous to making a million dollars or more in trading.
If we look back to our series of successful trades most of us would have made tremendous profits running in millions if it was on a good capital start.

And I agree with myself that when it comes to trading, for good traders the difference in our profit making level is in the capital and not necessarily put on number of successful trades executed.
It boils down to say the difference is just capital.

You're absolutely correct mate. Long before now I've observed this very theory of maximizing profit by Increasing the trading capital.
There was a time I traded synthetic indices for over 9 months, I noticed that I really battled trading with a $10 account but made my first $2000 when I tried trading with a $100 within 48 hours which has been my greatest win at a stance ever trading.
One of the major problems outside capital is the ability to manage risk
Risk management is one of the greatest factors that determine a successive trade as no matter how much capital one trades with, without a good risk management there are still greater chances of blowing an account

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Capital is a major part of trading but not the only one. It in fluences the profit that comes in the loss that may occur when the market is very poor. Huge capitals attract huge profits when the bull is present, but when the bear is around the corner you smell a great loss if greed sets in. But in the end of it all, whether you're in profit or loss the point is try not to ever lose your capital. That's the most hurtful part of it all

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Quote from: Adbitco on November 22, 2022, 09:22:32 AM

There's something I got to understand whenever I had people saying about good capital yes it's true but have you also considered something very important when it comes of good capital.
For instance, as a good trader you funded your account with about $4000 and you trades out good profits from it about $200 to $500 weekly or so, do you know the energy and effort putting to manage this $4k won't be as same to when you have $50k in your trading account, why because you feels you still have much funds meaning you can still managed $45k if you lost $5k. But with little capital you could utilized it and make good profits although it depends on the level of your exposure with money. So start with little is the best thing to do than having much thousands or even millions to trade with.

It all boils down on how you manage your capital. Having a small capital doesn't mean that you need to go nearly all in to just cope up with the profit that higher capital has. You can do the techniques or trading styles that a trader that has a higher capital could do but of course there are some restriction on techniques since some of those techniques need a high capital for it to be effective. Over all a big capital can do more and has the advantage if we are solely looking for advantage and disadvantage though having a small capital doesn't mean that you can't earn as much as traders that has more capital, The time and effort you will spend is just more.

This is true! There's no such thing about huge difference in between having big or small capital.It is really just pertaining on how wide or how you could really be that versatile when you do have bigger capital

compared into small but in how you do make out profitable trades then it would be just on the same concept.If you do apply both things on huge capital account and a small one.
Then percentage gains would really be just the same.

The key on here which you should really be minding off is on how you should sustain yourself into this unpredictable market without blowing up your
capital, doesnt matter if its big or small.

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Quote from: Adbitco on November 22, 2022, 09:22:32 AM

There's something I got to understand whenever I had people saying about good capital yes it's true but have you also considered something very important when it comes of good capital.
For instance, as a good trader you funded your account with about $4000 and you trades out good profits from it about $200 to $500 weekly or so, do you know the energy and effort putting to manage this $4k won't be as same to when you have $50k in your trading account, why because you feels you still have much funds meaning you can still managed $45k if you lost $5k. But with little capital you could utilized it and make good profits although it depends on the level of your exposure with money. So start with little is the best thing to do than having much thousands or even millions to trade with.

It all boils down on how you manage your capital. Having a small capital doesn't mean that you need to go nearly all in to just cope up with the profit that higher capital has. You can do the techniques or trading styles that a trader that has a higher capital could do but of course there are some restriction on techniques since some of those techniques need a high capital for it to be effective. Over all a big capital can do more and has the advantage if we are solely looking for advantage and disadvantage though having a small capital doesn't mean that you can't earn as much as traders that has more capital, The time and effort you will spend is just more.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 22, 2022, 11:38:17 AM

But I would never suggest borrowing. There is a big difference when you invest using borrowed money and not. The pressure at the time of trading makes us have a different feeling. I would feel more detached if I used my own money...

And in this case, what is the difference between margin trading, which most traders resort to when borrowing from the exchange? These are the same borrowed funds, and if you have a positive experience of spot trading, then you should not limit yourself to your own funds.

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Quote from: doomloop on November 16, 2022, 08:43:31 AM

Even if you don't have a capital of your own but as long as you have a good skill in trading, you can always borrow some or do pilot trades to be able to produce your own money. Success isn't measured on how one started or if he has a big capital but the result at the end will matter the most.

Big capital traders with less knowledge can lose the capital later on but small capital traders with lots of knowledge can grow their capital later on. Starting with a big capital do also have a bigger risk and I think many professional traders are still humble and down to earth. They don't get confident and use more money as their capital even if they have the capacity of doing so.

But I would never suggest borrowing. There is a big difference when you invest using borrowed money and not. The pressure at the time of trading makes us have a different feeling. I would feel more detached if I used my own money. In fact I've proven.
Regarding the issue of capital, it doesn't matter how much capital you have. The most important thing is that you understand investing or trading. Large capital also has large management. You must be skilled in managing capital, so learn to manage small capital that is constantly growing into large.

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There's something I got to understand whenever I had people saying about good capital yes it's true but have you also considered something very important when it comes of good capital.
For instance, as a good trader you funded your account with about $4000 and you trades out good profits from it about $200 to $500 weekly or so, do you know the energy and effort putting to manage this $4k won't be as same to when you have $50k in your trading account, why because you feels you still have much funds meaning you can still managed $45k if you lost $5k. But with little capital you could utilized it and make good profits although it depends on the level of your exposure with money. So start with little is the best thing to do than having much thousands or even millions to trade with.

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Quote from: Odusko on November 18, 2022, 04:35:33 PM

Having capital alone is not enough to make a profit g trade, because a good trader needs to have skills that will help him leverage the market to come out with good profits, the amount of capital is only important when the skills to manage it are already built. Good trading capital can help a trader to double their profit from just a few trading position compared to another trader who may open same position with smaller capital.

Exactly, it takes skill and wide knowledge in order to earn consistent profit in trading which is not actually easy IMO. I always see and hear people saying that if only they have the capital, they will be earning big and become rich. But in my own point of view, if they are really good at trading, rather than whining and blaming they do not have the big capital, they should be able to double a small capital of $100 in a single day or let's say in a few days. If they are really good then they should be able to make thousands of dollars in a month with that $100 starting capital.

It is always easier said than done. Fund managers managing millions of dollars didn't start with that huge amount right away. They started small too. We should always remember that Rome was not built in a day.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 18, 2022, 11:32:32 AM

But at the same time there's another point to be considered which is that with low capital we become more fearless when compared to a high capital.
When our capital is high and when we make investments on higher amounts we tend to fear more.
Fear eats up the profits and gets us losses. With less fear in low capital we tend to make out decent profits.

Indeed, the larger the capital, the greater the loss may be. And if you do not learn how to trade with small capital, using risk management in your trading, then all the mistakes that were made will be automatically transferred to trading with large capital.

Yes ofcourse and that is the reason most experts advice to start slowly and trade with a small capital in the beginning.
Once we start getting consistent profits only then we should think of increasing the capital gradually.
Many people start trading with a big capital and lose big money which is a mistake we should avoid at any cost.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

When it comes to trading, capital makes the difference. For it hits me hard to know that same energy and technicality put in making about $500 is also synonymous to making a million dollars or more in trading.
If we look back to our series of successful trades most of us would have made tremendous profits running in millions if it was on a good capital start.

And I agree with myself that when it comes to trading, for good traders the difference in our profit making level is in the capital and not necessarily put on number of successful trades executed.
It boils down to say the difference is just capital.

That is the secret many traders do not still know that the kind of capital you are using to trade depends on a lots of things which include capital and profits. Just imagine someone trading with $100 and another trader trading with $1000. You will noticed that when we talk about profits, the trader using $1000 to trade will make more money than just the person using $100 to trade and there risk factors will be very different. The trader will $100 will take more risk than the other because the capital are not the same.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

And I agree with myself that when it comes to trading, for good traders the difference in our profit making level is in the capital and not necessarily put on number of successful trades executed.
It boils down to say the difference is just capital.

Yes, I totally agrees with you in this very statement of yours, but in a situation where there is no much capital, will you kill yourself? No no no, because in as much as captal is important, you should never underestimate the power of starting with the little you can afford, and as time flies, your trading capital must have increased by the little profits you may have gathered from a handful of trade.

Because there is actually power in little beginning...

Don't rush, just take it gently, and you will also arrive there someday.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

When it comes to trading, capital makes the difference. For it hits me hard to know that same energy and technicality put in making about $500 is also synonymous to making a million dollars or more in trading.

Indeed, a person with higher capital may have higher profits if they are trading and gaining profits. But, they may also loose more than the smaller capital. This means that high risk, high return. The amount of capital will influence how high the profits are to gain probabilities. But, how to gain the profits, will be different. Someone with good knowledge and experience in trading or investment will be appropriate to have a bigger amount. because they have understood how to make it. But, if you are beginners, capital is not the only thing that will give higher profits, this will be risky enough for beginner with high capital, moroever if they don't really understand about crypto trading or investment.

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Having capital alone is not enough to make a profit g trade, because a good trader needs to have skills that will help him leverage the market to come out with good profits, the amount of capital is only important when the skills to manage it are already built. Good trading capital can help a trader to double their profit from just a few trading position compared to another trader who may open same position with smaller capital.

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Quote from: pawanjain on November 18, 2022, 11:32:32 AM

But at the same time there's another point to be considered which is that with low capital we become more fearless when compared to a high capital.
When our capital is high and when we make investments on higher amounts we tend to fear more.
Fear eats up the profits and gets us losses. With less fear in low capital we tend to make out decent profits.

Indeed, the larger the capital, the greater the loss may be. And if you do not learn how to trade with small capital, using risk management in your trading, then all the mistakes that were made will be automatically transferred to trading with large capital.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

When it comes to trading, capital makes the difference. For it hits me hard to know that same energy and technicality put in making about $500 is also synonymous to making a million dollars or more in trading.
If we look back to our series of successful trades most of us would have made tremendous profits running in millions if it was on a good capital start.

And I agree with myself that when it comes to trading, for good traders the difference in our profit making level is in the capital and not necessarily put on number of successful trades executed.
It boils down to say the difference is just capital.

But at the same time there's another point to be considered which is that with low capital we become more fearless when compared to a high capital.
When our capital is high and when we make investments on higher amounts we tend to fear more.
Fear eats up the profits and gets us losses. With less fear in low capital we tend to make out decent profits.

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Quote from: Lida93 on October 05, 2022, 06:45:57 AM

When it comes to trading, capital makes the difference. For it hits me hard to know that same energy and technicality put in making about $500 is also synonymous to making a million dollars or more in trading.
If we look back to our series of successful trades most of us would have made tremendous profits running in millions if it was on a good capital start.

While it's true that big capital = big profit. But in the end it just depends on what assets you are trying to invest. If you are good and lucky enough to spot good assets to trade then you can build up your capital to higher value and use that amount to actually make a decent profit in the future. Have been watching people starting from small amount until they get decent capital, for sure it just depends on person itself.

Even if they have bigger capital doesn't mean they will invest it wisely, the greed of chasing losses often experienced by people having big capitals.

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Quote from: deathcode on November 16, 2022, 01:13:16 AM

It is true that the success of a trader is not how much initial capital he has.
Having skills and understanding trading strategies is one of the very basic factors to be able to support success in the world of trading.
Knowledge of the basics, strategies in trading and good self-management is a good provision to start trading.
Success in trading does not have to have large capital in my opinion, we will get success if we have extensive and good knowledge of trading capital.
Of course it all comes from experience. Even with a small capital, it is possible to have great success in trading.
So I think it is true that success will be achieved if we have good knowledge, experience and good self-control in trading.

Even if you don't have a capital of your own but as long as you have a good skill in trading, you can always borrow some or do pilot trades to be able to produce your own money. Success isn't measured on how one started or if he has a big capital but the result at the end will matter the most.

Big capital traders with less knowledge can lose the capital later on but small capital traders with lots of knowledge can grow their capital later on. Starting with a big capital do also have a bigger risk and I think many professional traders are still humble and down to earth. They don't get confident and use more money as their capital even if they have the capacity of doing so.

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