Topic: The Standard of a Meritorious post (Read 333 times)

I suggest you completely change the approach to this forum. I understand your desire to gather some merit and make progress here, but spamming with nonsense is a completely wrong way. You can get one or two merits, but this can only be accidental (just as you earned that one)
Put in a little effort, better write one meaningful post than ten nonsense like so far.

This is true for newbies who has been here before and coming back with another account. For someone getting to know about the merit system will not be so eager to earn it.

Strictly none of the above. You may see one with much merits and at that particular time has no single smerits to share. Excess merits as you said doesn't mean there is always smerits except for merit sources. And it seems that merit sources run out of smerits sometimes.
There are no laid down principles in writing merit worthy posts.
You get merit when you make someone know new things, you help solve people's problems or answer questions. So, see merit as a reward for doing good. From henceforth you can consider to be helping people.

I didnt even know how merit are been valued here until i got one myself ,as a newbie alot are to be learned and everyday seems to be discovering new development or getting experience and exploring ,also seeing how the experienced members are doing it gives you a wide direction on how to go about it.

Meriting a post is subject to the person meriting it. A post that affects me positively and discussed about issues that touched my area of concern may not be same with another person.

So I don't think anyone is actually withholding the generosity to merit.

No system is perfect, and it's no secret that merits are sold on the black market and shared between alt accounts - so there are definitely shortcuts, although (thankfully) there are few who know how to use them.

In addition, due to the lack of quality posters, many managers lowered the criteria for selecting participants just to fill all the spots in their campaigns. The rule of 5 merits that someone needs to earn in 120 days to qualify for a campaign is more than obvious a completely failed way of filtering the good from the bad members. If they applied the criteria that CM has for its campaign participants, would at least 5% of active forum users meet them (excluding those active participants)?

OP, you impersonate that you are more interested in making money on the forum than getting information, communication, and learning here. Everyone is used to newcomers creating new topics on seemingly thousands of times discussed issues. There is a very easy way to get merit, be original. Find out what the forum is missing, ask a question, or, on the contrary, tell me an answer that will be fascinating.
Many accuse old users of greed and inattention to the posts of newcomers, but believe me, as soon as an "emerald user" appears here, he will be noticeable.
So strive for originality, and avoid mediocrity.

@Mate2237, one thing is for sure, you won't get merit for posts and topics like this. From what I've seen, merits have been rewarded to posts in the past that are helpful or enjoyable, or to topics that spark or drive debate. Not necessarily any new or insightful info but at least nice and interesting content, and useful information to other people on the forum. With that said, I've never really bothered with the merit system as it doesn't really change anything, you can still consume and produce content on the forum just the same, so why bother?

There is no general standard for giving out merits and it's wholly at the discretion of other members. Contribute your reasonable thoughts and questions to the forum and someone may learn from you or be impressed for whatever reasons by your post and may get you a merit.

In essence, Acquire knowledge by asking relevant questions, sharing your thoughts and opinions and engage in intelligent educative discussions first and only then would your issues raised be over.
Merits are earned, earn them.

I don’t think it’s hard to guess why new members wants to get merits so much and progress on this forum.
This forum is really specific and provides a good opportunity to make money based on writing on the forum and in other ways.
There is nothing wrong with that but there are still certain criteria for participating in signature campaigns and merits and ranks are most important.
I think it is a very fair system because it separates the good and the bad members and everyone has an equal opportunity, based on their own effort and work. No shortcuts 

It has no standard, people get merits on posts who would other member consider lower quality.

Word of advise, don't post on expectation of getting merit, you are gonna be disappointed. Post about subjects you are really interested in, have fun here, it will be all right.

Well said!
I once created a thread that for days, no one made comment on it, same with merit, until I one day when I became lucky to have someone comment on it, and that's the only comment on that thread till now, except for my reply to the person's comment which made the comment 2, though I was later fortunate to have the post earn me merit.

At first I felt like I gave a good write up because I sincerely wrote from my experience, spent hours drafting my composition and all. But just like it's been said in this quote, there's no rules on what is meritorious, what is good to me might not be good to others, what I found fascinating might not be the same with another person, and the forum has been designed in a way that everyone reserve the right to give merit to whoever they want or whoever has impacted them.

It was kind of funny when I later found out that the volume, of my thread that  I mentioned above, was possibly the reason many people didn't comment on it.

Some times newbies expect too much for a trend they have made. But it depends on the reader to merit a post or not. And merit does come if the post is educative and someone could learn from. We should try our best to give a quality post and merit will definitely follow suit.

That's exactly what I thought. He has only been posting on the forum for a few days, but he is already complaining about the difficulty of earning merit. It is obvious he is forcing it. Not only that, but he is whining that he has put up effort, which can't really be seen from his few posts so far.

In my short time around here, I noticed this as well. When I read a really good post or answer, and check the user's merit counter, they almost always have a high merit count (which shows the merit system is working).

There isn't really much more to this; at least, that's how I distribute my sMerits: if I read an interesting idea or question, a good explanation or a helpful thread / guide / link collection, I give some. More or less based on just the (perceived) importance, helpfulness, quality and time / effort put into it.

If after I read a post, I gained nothing from it and it just wasted my time; providing zero new value to the forum or anyone really, I would almost like to give a negative merit. Since the advent of social media and 'broadcast yourself', some people got into the habit of posting their thoughts online without filtering, without structure or without second-guessing themselves if this post will actually be of any interest to someone or if they're just wasting people's time.

I’ve often echoed that earning a few merits, and scaling through the first few ranks, should not deem too difficult, but rather more so moving along the mid-to-high ranks, which require many more merits, and where people are likely to be more demanding for meriting posted content than on the lower ranks.

People here and there have posted their meriting criteria, such as on this recent thread. Reading through may provide further insights, although bear in mind that people have likely conceptual criteria, but things are nor written in stone.

The idea, in general terms, is to create content that is potentially interesting to the reader, be it in the shape of information, questions, answers, criticism, and whatnot, and wavering the flag of being meaningful, as opposed to meaningless or excessively redundant. The way you express yourself and the general layout are complements that help to convey the message more easily, and come in handy to bear in mind.

Being too eager may easily prove to be counterproductive, as it may lead one to be under the spotlight with a content that may not be that well thought through. Nobody should be expecting to get merited from the start, nor recurrently on most of the post he makes. I took my time to earn my first merit, well over a month, and if memory serves me well, it was actually for a little joke on my local board relative to price volatility. Not something to mimic, but goes to show that there is a variety of content that may be considered by others as interesting.

You are right, it's indeed a problem and very hard to obtain a Merit.

I have seen people sending a fraudulent Merit for low effort posts, like in local sections: German section here or here.
It contributes no value, still a Merit.

Merit should be reserved for well researched posts but still many well researched posts go unmerited and very many low quality posts go merited.
We need a Merit police to punish giving a Merit to low effort posts.  



You need to focus your post on what is useful as a content, what people might be interested in.
About education, about Bitcoin, about exposing scams and about improving Bitcointalk.

Yes, Merit is very scarce and hard to obtain but it's not impossible to obtain a Merit.

It is never a problem and why is because we have many newbies on the forum doing well and are seeing the result, if you doubt have a look at this The future of Bitcointalk: Low Ranking Top Merit earners in the past 30 days its updated till date and after you could have gone through, do well to check some user's profile and see what they are posting and how they are doing it that makes them have a deserving result, so don't say or assume it's a problem for newbies to have merit, everyone is lied with equal opportunity and those that maximize the effective use of it get a deserving benefit from it as well.


Furthermore to clear your doubts i think you need to go about the reading of the forum's rules and regulations, and some important key topics in this area of merit like i will love to drop you some here:
Merit FAQ for us read as well this also for more directions onnhow to go about [GUIDE for NEWBIE] Merit-help from other users, how to use them correctly? and i think by now you should have got it right and realize what you've been missing out.

gaining merit's is not a problems for newbies If  they are contributing well in this community but all they do is asking on how to get it or what ever involves in merit's for sure it's hard for them . Now adays some newbies  not came here for knowledge but the main purpose why they are here it because they want to get some extra income .
To get merits you should create a quality and helpful threads to convince other user to give you merit's  but before that newbies muy read first the rules and regulations to avoid. Such things.

Each of the posts or comments made in this forum it's for gaining ideas from one another. Newbies should have in mind that, not every post or comment deserves merit. Merits are only given out for free will based on your response or idea about the topic. 
Comment or ask questions in the post you have an interest in then the merit will locate you simultaneously.

Mate2237, you need to understand that the merits of this forum don't come automatically, but depend on other members of the forum.
Each of us is different and has different thoughts and criteria about which post deserve merit.
No one can demand merit but I suggest you to be humble, make an effort, share your knowledge and experience and based on that other members of the forum may reward your investment with merit.
Topics and posts like this will not help you.