Topic: The things that improve a quality post (Read 347 times)

What @OP stated when perfected can get one an award in literature but we are here in the forum that allows informal discussion reason why many do not care much about spelling and grammar but the thought of the post related to the topic being discussed.


A single word can be a quality post as long as it answers the purpose of the thread.  It can even beat paragraphs of words where at the end, it does not answer or add up to the informative discussion of the thread.

But I believe there is no harm and considering the list of @OP when writing a reply, it also gives a good impression if someone meticulous in grammar and spelling is reading the thread.

You are partially right but as a newbie, I don't think you are suppose to be talking about these because it's too early for you, rather you are suppose to be going through topics, replies, quotes etc so that you learn more about this forum.
Moreover, your sentence are not well arranged, sorry if you see this as an attack. As a newbie, you are not suppose to be in a haste to earn merit but rather try to understand how this forum works.

What you said is all correct in theory. Actually this skill is easy to understand, and difficult to practice in theory. An effective way to hone this skill is to make lots of posts and always be active in discussions. The more hours you fly, then this skill will naturally form itself. Making posts is not only a matter of quality but also a way to liven up the discussion so that people who read can benefit from our posts.

Therefore we must continue to practice to develop skills in making posts. The better we can convey our thoughts and ideas to friends here, the more useful our contribution will be in this forum. Maybe this is also important for beginners, sometimes they are very excited to make quality posts but forget about the forum rules so they don't last long in this forum because they have violated forum rules such as plagiarism and spammers.

In addition, it is not all about what you have listed OP. There are some you are missing as a newbie and I am sure just as you made mention of research here, you did not do a thorough research before writing this. Sometimes it is not about you writing a post that can make a post quality good post. There  are some post or articles out there that are of good quality with educating content which is very rich and good in information and update and one would want bring them here. Newbies are fond of that,they copy and past them here without citing or referencing their source which leads them to being banned or flagged here. So you see now why it is good to reference some post one copied from anywhere or quote the real author of the post. A typical example is here  where a newbie used an AI to generate a post here thinking it would not be noticed but was unfortunate. This is the reason why newbies are advised to take out time to study and ask question where they find difficult to understand so that they do not make mistakes here. I think you too can do same.

For you to make a quality post you don't have to consider all those you outline and next time before you give out a guide make sure you have tested those guide yourself and have found them to be successful before you suggest others to use it. Don't take my words wrongly I mean well for you and I understand what you're trying to do but one sure way to make sure you're delivering quality when you post is to analyze your reply to see if they're on topic and making sense that others can learn from your post and add to their knowledge depending on what the topic of discussion is about. It could be Bitcoin, altcoins or other general discussion been discussed on the forum.

Quality is subjective so there's no guarantee that if you do this or that, that you'll make making sense to the user on the opposite side of the forum with smerits but provided you're not spamming or just writing some genetic thoughts then you're contributing to the quality of the forum in a good way. We don't have all native speeders of English on the forum so provided you can understand what the user is saying,  you can merits their contributions. You don't only have to judge quality based on their writing style or queens English. This isn't a lecture room, it's a forum we should be free to discuss like we're chatting with friends.

Sure. They need to understand that the software they use thinking that it will be the one to improve their post quality is not true; it only corrects the errors that have been made by them while writing the post. However, they still have quality posts even without using this software. What is required is that what you are writing should be meaningful. Grammer is not necessary to make a post quality. The fact that the software we are talking about can give them some grammar that even the poster cannot understand, but knowing that what you write should be educated and meaningful to other forum members is what makes a post quality, since nobody is above mistakes and not all of us here use English as our main language.


Many users that have contributed to this particular topic have not said this topic is pointless; it's obvious that the topic is meaningful, and it will help some users to know their weaknesses when trying to make some good contributions on the forum, whether creating a thread or replying to a post. However, this post is good in my opinion. The only thing I think the OP forgot to include on his list is punctuation, which is very important when writing a sentence like this.

what i really want us to understand in this tips is that, those things i outlined is what i known that will be the side effect of writing a quality post, so therefore what ever anyone is saying about my idea is an advice to me, but some persons will take it as a criticism but im not bothered of being criticized but i know that few of us know that what i pen down is true about writing a quality writing, talking my point out of forum discussion, its known that before you come up with some of the good writing skill or writing letter a company you most make sure that you outline all i have being mention before, so i have not see why people will condemn my work because they want to complete their weekly quota.     

OP i appreciate your efforts in writing these up but sometimes it's not all about the quantity of what we offer but the quality in them, what you're saying here to me is what can be summarized in one or two lines than the time and effort on wat already had been discussed by many members even in a more professional and presentable manner, though you're a newbie, this could actually be a learning ground for you to do more in other to see more, increase your learning scope, research and make findings on recent and informative news everyone could learn something new from.

Regardless of the user's rank, if the posts and topics they make meet the requirements of a quality, constructive and informative post, a user like this deserves to be called a quality user. Anyone still has time to become a quality poster, members who have just joined this forum need deep knowledge of how to make quality posts. Those who have joined for a long time but are still having difficulty ranking up, still have the opportunity to change old habits from spammers to quality posters.

The quality of users on the forum is not judged by account rank, not always Newbie (Spammer) and Legendary (Good Member) opinions. Apart from some of the motivations that you have described here, those who still find it difficult to improve the quality of their posts need to read some of the other motivations in this Thread Newbie's Guide to Getting Merit (Proven) to increase account rank.

Hi, so another grammar nazi on his job telling people on how to improve post's quality. I mean, it just makes the post more understandable. Doesn't improve quality at all.
Imagine you are just writing random words however the spellings, grammar and everything else you mentioned is correct. Does it qualify to be a quality post? I don't think so.

Quality post can be one with mistakes in spellings, but providing the required information to the users.

I think you took the research off context. In the cryptocurrency industry, when we say of research we have one major thing in mind. That is, making your personal opinion about a particular coin before investing in it. Just like the popular acronym - DYOR.
In the context you are discussing, it would have been better you used the word "learning". Newbies need to learn before they will be knowledgeable enough to compose high quality posts. Learning is not only for newbies, learning as a continuous process is for everyone.
It I out of the abundance you have that you give out. You cannot give what you do not possess, there is no magic about it.

Of all those listed I will favour "Research" as top and then closely followed by "Arrangements" and "Spelling". I'm easily captivated by page-turners, sentences well spiced. Nothing draws one's (I speak for myself here) attention better to a well written text than the flowery and well constructed structures embedded therein. However, despite how I love that to be; the article or posts made should be something constructive or well researched so that no one tries to spill a lie here. Nonetheless, I'm aware that there are posts which may not be that subtle but underneath them they've succinct messages and that could be because the posters aren't native speakers of English language. So, in all, I don't like criticizing people for not writing in seemingly good grammar especially when I see through their ingenuity. After all, English isn't the most spoken language in the world. Chinese is.

By the way, "Arrangements" should encompass Sentence and Spelling.

All these things you have outlined are actually helpful in creating quality content, but not always; some content will look very good and be interesting to read, but it has no good information or knowledge to share on the forum, and the information passed on in the content determines its quality.

On the research aspect, I am sure so many users try conducting some research before making posts here in the forum, but the problem is they are not sharing what they learned but they will end up posting the same content they read online here, which is why most newbies get banned due to plagiarism. Therefore, when doing research, make sure you have learned and understood all you are reading so that you will come up with something very special to the forum that will benefit others.


This is one of the things to be considered. I think a leader should lead by example. The OP is also expected to check his content properly before posting in order to avoid small mistakes and spelling errors, or use grammar checkers and other tools like Quilbot to check spelling errors before posting.

Thank you, OP for putting effort to come up with such a comprehensive lecture on post-writing. All your information are worth practicing in the quest to always write good posts. As much as I agree that your points are valid, they are not the most important ingredients of a quality post. The relevance of the message you are trying to convey is more important than an error free post. How helpful or important the information is to the community should be the main thrust of every post. An error free post that has no relevance is needless and won't attract the right comments.

I have seen posts that lack grammatical quality getting the right attention because of their uniqueness and importance. Newbies should focus on innovative, novel and creative post ideas and not over-researched areas. A quality post can simply be a referenced breaking news that relates to the crypto ecosystem.

OP, I'm not trying to troll you either; however, creating such topics, as I see it, should be done by those who can really set an example for everyone else.
But what I see now is an exchange of merit, maybe with your friends or something close. Two people rate your posts, and you don't hesitate to return the same to them. Is it enough to be an example or a teacher to those you supposedly want to help?
Learn a little thing; a theory is always simple, but practice shows otherwise.
I expect you, after some time in this thread, to strongly want to argue with me.
In addition to all that you have said, it is good manners when the topic author regularly reviews user responses, leads a discussion on the topic, and, if necessary, closes his topic on his own to avoid further spam.

In addition to correct punctuation, for the sake of completeness, proper citation should also be pointed out here. Unfortunately, one sees the following citation "errors" far too often here at Bitcointalk:

• Full quotes of a (longer) post although you only want to respond to a part of the post. You have already provided an ideal example of how to quote by simply taking out the part that was irrelevant to your answer.
• At least as bad I personally consider pyramid quotes, i.e. quotes of quotes of quotes of ... (I think it's clear what I'm getting at), e.g. something like this:
  
  These make it much more difficult to follow the discussion, especially if you want to contribute with other opinions afterwards.
  
  1miau has been fighting against pyramid quotes for a long time and points it out again and again in the German-speaking area of the forum. This has also worked very well there, you hardly see this kind of quoting anymore.
  

A quality post is supposed to provide an important knowledge or information to everybody that reads it. Even to people who know a lot already, it is supposed to remind them of something they know which is important and should not be forgotten.

Bad sentences or wrongly arranged sentences can distract a reader from the point of a topic, that is why good sentences are important to create enough engagement to a topic. A topic with good sentences will make better meaning and since people reading will be able to understand the writer better, they will also be able to make better contributions to the discussion.

The most important thing that improve a quality post is talk less do more, I don't see that in your account because when you're creating this kind particular pointless topic, you're talk more and do less as you keep more to talk than to learn.

There's no boundaries you must to have 677 TOEFL test to post in this forum instead you can post in your local board. You don't have to know everything, you don't have to become a teacher to teach someone etc.

Why the need to share this in a longer form where you only needs to things in order for a user here to make a quality post.
Well, this might be my own opinion, but for me, the only things that you need in order to make a quality posts are "Having an idea on the topic where you are posting with." and "Punctuations".

You said research which is the same as the first one that I said, and I agree with that, but with the other 4, well they kind of needed, but not necessary. I mean spelling can be easily corrected because if you spelled it wrong, it will show red zigzag lines below it. As for the 3, it isn't a necessary that you know it, as long as you know what you are saying towards a particular topic, I guess you can make a "quality" post from it.

As for punctuations, for me it's a big factor especially the comma because that punctuation can change the idea behind a sentence. There was a time where I really need to study about punctuations because there are times where I'm wrong with it especially when I'm posting here. There might be times that I'm still wrong, but I can say that I'm better now in terms of using it.

Overall, as long as you know what you are saying, you are knowledgeable with it, you have idea on what you're saying then I guess you can make a quality post off of it. Of course punctuations matters still.

I doubt you did a thorough observation before starting this topic because if you did, you would have found similar topics by new and old members. I see an emerging pattern here, newbies trying to be teachers to other newbies on how to improve post quality and earn merits. First, I want to clarify that what is considered a quality post is subjective and is not exactly defined. However, we all know what a useless or low value post is and should endeavor to avoid making one.

To make quality and good posts is not only an obstacle or problem experienced by beginners, but sometimes old members of this forum often feel it too.
Actually, for beginners or someone who has just joined the forum they don't have to be able to provide good and quality postings right away because this depends on knowledge and experience, the most important thing is to understand and comply with the rules that already exist in this forum.

Some of the aspects of writing that you convey are true, and in my opinion if we make a post using all the aspects that you convey then maybe it will be a post that has good content and has very informative value.
But unfortunately, to make our posts considered quality or not, this is what we cannot control or we cannot control because quality or not depends on the recipient or the judging reader.

Op you have outlines your point of view concerning quality post, but I want you to understand that a quality post is not measurable by size or be determined by how ambiguous is your comment, what we mean by a quality post is a post that is innovative and it will be determined by your ability of knowing or understanding exactly what what the phrase of the Sentence is narrating or navigating at, some people think that  quality post is all about how large and ambiguous is the content of your post, some of what you put in quote in your thread triggers a quality but the issue is that when we lack time to make post or be in rush to make post that reduce our quality but if we make post base on what we understand in thread that means the post will be of quality because you respond base on what you, but if you don't know anything concerning the thread and you are responding to meet weekly post quota, you will end up of making low quality post. So in response you have to be careful and respond to a thread you what the discussion is all about.

For now English speaking members even though there are local boards here that you could join, the general board still uses English and as such you can simply develop your language although not necessarily through using various English grammar links or paraphrasing sites like Quillbolt. But my major problem suggesting this is many people throughly abuses this by just copying texts and putting them up for paraphrasing. So even when you research make sure it is something you have gained valuable knowledge from and can pass the knowledge from your head out and not copying. There is no need necessarily to teach what you don’t understand. So for easy learning one should stick to board where they understand the language.


Most people go out of points on threads simply because they want to explain it too well or want a lengthy reply. Most of these I would say is sometimes associated with the quota of post to be meet for signature participants.

Another thing I will add to OP lists is the organization of your thread do not just write wall of texts, present them well In paragraphs so as to be clear and readable. There is a way you organize a thread it will look attractive to reader and he will engage on it.

The simple answer to what improves the quality of a post is having something to say in response to the topic. Many of the time users nake posts with the purpose of reaching a quota or requirement and then make that post considerably acceptable for it to not be considered to be spamming.

If you have a response to a topic based on the question asked, you will be able to make a quality post or contribute something to the thread.

We get things to respond with based off what we read, so I'd you want to make a quality post you should do a bit of reading on Bitcoin related topics.

Aside from the list stated by @OP, I believe one thing that can improve the quality of the post is the content and its connection to the thread topic.  One can say lots of beautiful and informative things but if it is not connected to the topic being discussed, it can still be considered as spam and more likely get deleted by the moderator.

Not everyone is good with English, and as such, everyone should just try as much as possible with what they can compose and make it readable and understandable by a few. Even when the grammar is not properly arranged, it does not stop the main information that the OP is trying to pass. Trying to make your grammar perfect is another thing that usually leads some people to use AI to generate their sentences.

In the aspect of research, I see this part as an important factor that contributes to someone's knowledge, and as such, it will also add to the kind of post they can compose, but research shouldn't be done by copying and pasting documents from a research article without dropping the source link, as that won't be considered research and will be called plagiarism.

For arrangement, I also agree with you that most times the way and manner in which a thread is presented determines the kind of attention that will be given to that thread. Some users make the mistake of not paragraphing their write-up, which ends up making the entire thread appear like trash. But well-paraphrased words without any solid information on them do not still make the thread useful or qualify it to be considered a quality post.

You don't have to be 100% accurate in grammar. As long as your posts are good enough for other users to understand it's enough. I'm saying this because not all of us speak English as our first language. So yes we make mistakes. If you have doubt you can use any online tools to fix your sentences and spelling etc.

Research in the most important part in BitcoinTalk. Before you make any posts you should always search the topic and research your way out. Most of the newbies don't do that. They just make a thread. Try to search first. Because there are many similar threads where your questions are already answered. If you try hard enough you'll find them. This forum is filled with knowledge if you know where to look for.

Most importantly you should always abide by forum rules and regulations. As long as you follow the rules and don't violate anything you are good to go.

Improvement on the content and thought of your post through research is the top priority to improve your post quality. There’s a software that can improve the quality of your writings including spelling and grammar while the content itself is only the user can improve it.

You can have a quality post even with minor spelling and grammar error while your content is helpful and understandable since not all user here use English language as primary language. Research and application of your knowledge is the best tool to improve someone post quality.

I am not trying to troll you but you did make some spelling mistakes in your compilation but still, I think you already considered yourself the ones who sometimes make such mistakes. My suggestion is to use a grammar tool like Grammarly for spelling mistakes. I also use it but sometimes it does not provide desired results so I have to ignore many suggestions. But, it does make a good impact plus sometimes you are trying to teach or explain someone something but you forget to use the comma or full stop in this way it becomes difficult for one to understand which sentence is related to which one. For that, you could use Quilbot's grammar mistake checker its best.

But the thing is, even if a newbie or pro wants to explain or say something, I can at least understand what he/she is trying to say because of my reading experience. I didn't read this much posts or articles which I read here on BTT.

This is important. But, you should bear in mind that not everyone here in the forum is from an English speaking country. I have seen so many of my threads that I discovered so many blunders after going back to re-read what I wrote there still yet I received merit from it. The main aim is; were you able to deliver the message that you were trying to deliver even if your grammar was not correct? If yes then that’s fine.
While for the spellings, sometimes if you’re accessing the forum through a mobile device autocorrect could play a part in your wrong choice of words or when typing with a keyboard on your pc you could mistakenly hit the wrong key and might still miss it when you’re proofreading your post.


Unfortunately, not every newbie wants to research about the forum or navigate through the forum to figure out how things work around here.
I remember coming to the forum and after making my first post here I took sometime off to learn about how posts are being made and during that period I discovered several tools like ninjastic.space, bpip.org, and also telegram notification bot all these contributed in my growth here in the forum but nowadays you’ll see newbies asking about something that’s self-explanatory, I’m not blaming them tho after all not everyone was built the same.

Since I registered in the forum I observed one of the things that brings setback to the beginners like me, I will like us to look into this tips of mine I seen like some of the barriers that contributes not to have a quality post. I don't know if someone have outlined this tips before, but this is what I think that is beginners problem of not having / making a quality posts. For we to make a quality posts we have to consider the following.

● Sentence
● Spelling
● Research
● Environmental observations
● Arrangements

Sentence
I observed that for a post to be quality it's necessary that the Sentence of the composition or comment will be well arranged, and sometimes readers find it very difficult to read and understand the authors writing because of the Sentence or grammar used is well arranged and it can't be understandable. Most often what makes a posts a quality is because of the grammatical irony used. For we to improve our quality, we shall make our Sentence to be well understood by the readers, and if our Sentence is in order it will make our point to be understand by any reader.

Spelling
This are the most of the things in English language that we have correct properly because  Spelling  will mislead a reader to understand your point. In Spelling sometimes you will read a particular thread severally before you could understand what tye writer have in mind to offer you will be discouraged because the spelling of the terms used are not corresponding, spelling is the most thing a beginner suppose to avoid it's mistake, because when you spelled wrongly it will distract the readers and they will find it very difficult to understand your points. To improve in quality posting we have to correct ourselves from the error of spelling wrong words during making a post and it can be corrected or observed during posting when you preview and read twice before posting.

Research
A research is very important to anyone that wants to learn, what is keeping alot of us stagnant of growths in the forum is because of lack of research and lack of understanding, and I find out that lacks of research is what makes some of us to discuss out of point, a research is part of knowledge and also  a discovery, but many newbies including me don't research for what to post, before I don't research bur now I notice that to make a research is very important to everybody that is in bitcointalk.

Environmental observations
This should be one of the things we should do when we are newly registered in the forum, and secondly any newbie have to take it time to observed the environment being the walls of the forum to know the rules and regulations of the forum before posting, sometimes we missed out good information that already exists in the forum because of lack of observations and research, reading a previous threads will benefit us as beginners., and again all pinned post are important for the beginners, I read them and I seen that many of them are meaningful and it's not good to skip any of them in any board.

Arrangements
This is the summary of then all, because a quality post starts with a good sentence and good spelling that is well coordinated through the Arrangements, so if don't take your time to arrange your sentence or grammar your point will be pointless, because the reader will not understand you, so in every writing you most make a good arrangement of your worlds so that the readers will understand the authors or op point of discussion.
When you check some posts that are difficult to understand, it's because of the Arrangements of the words are not proper, and that makes people to find it difficult to understand what the writer is saying. So in conclusion, I think arrangement  of words and spelling of words contributes meaningfully for communication and a quality posting and when writing is quality some people will plagiarised from your article.