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hero member
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Meh. It doesn't matter whatever so called experts/gurus/analysts, etc, are saying. The only thing that matters is that you prepare yourself for what is going to happen in the coming 12 months. Every person with a few functioning brain cells should understand that we're currently forming the perfect setup to obliterate the $20,000 all time high.

It technically doesn't even matter if you prefer to wait for a dip or a confirmation that the market is breaking past the $14,000 where it was brutally rejected from a few days ago, all because of how paying a few thousand more or less isn't going to make a difference when we're blasting past $100,000 in the forthcoming years. Prepare for a nuclear price explosion.


I am confident of the same expectations about 20,000 being obliterated,,, but I will still never say that this is a sure thing,,, nor will I ever try to convince someone that it is a sure thing. I do not have many years in Bitcoin but I know enough and have seen enough myself even with altcoins to understand how fragile the whole system can be. 20k is possible, $20 is also possible.

But you are absolutely correct about the price today not making a difference. It is what it will be in 5 or 10 years that is!
hero member
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days ago an analyst made a very exaggerated price forecast (something that became very common in recent years)... he said this:
BTC could return to its all-time high of $20,000 within one to two weeks, while $50,000 to $100,000 could be achievable by the end of 2019
the guy who said this is @Simon Peters (eToro analyst)
the price is falling a lot and when I see this forecast, I get more angry with those analysts who only make the wrong predictions (their predictions seem like a big joke)
There are many analyst who claim that they can predict any market but the truth is that it is like tossing a coin, sometimes their predictions goes like they say and most of the time the other way, i really do not take any of these analyst or predictions seriously because if they were really accurate in what they predict they will make money doing that instead of preaching it to others  Cheesy, i have my experience in the market and i have an idea how the market will play out and i trust my instincts and play along and more over i am here for the long run, so the risk factor is reduced since i am not trading with my emotions.
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I suggest you don't listen to only limited experts in the market, if you are bullish,
Right mate because these “experts” has nothing in mind but to benefit from the effect of their predictions
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you would appreciate more bullish news and prediction but what I learned in my journey here thus far, experts are wrong most of the time especially when they are giving a very high or very low price prediction.
Being a holder better not to listen to their words but believe in your instincts,because this is our money that we must took care and those experts has theirs to gain also
legendary
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Do you think this new person will hear people from the forum or will listen to analysts' opinions?

the answer is easy: the person will hear the opinion of the analysts, because for any new person (including myself at 2 years ago) heard the opinion of analysts.

I don't think most of these analysts are malicious. I think the market is simply unpredictable. No one should assume it can be predicted.

Newbies need to make their own mistakes and learn not to follow other peoples' predictions blindly. This will only happen through experience. This isn't a problem. In markets, people either sink or learn to swim.

most of the things we hear on the internet is not even from "analysts" it is either from random people on the internet which the news sites used and made them big while trying to make the whole thing look legit. or it is some people who created a business (usually an investment firm) that is ripping people off and want to advertise their services like this.
full member
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So the price exceeded $11k now, so what's next? do those so called experts will change their story to fit their narrative? I wouldn't bother, we have been in this game for so long to understand and learn to read between the lines.
Experts will always make their statement for the sake of their self, and we know that they are just guessing their prediction. Its good that we go back to $11k level, let’s hope and analyze the market well and don’t listen to any prediction. The time to learn is now, we have to know that so no prediction can fool us.
legendary
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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)
So the price exceeded $11k now, so what's next? do those so called experts will change their story to fit their narrative? I wouldn't bother, we have been in this game for so long to understand and learn to read between the lines.
I dont trust any social media or news channel based on crypto niche. They are shady and always promoting things to get paid. Hoenstly they dont have any proper source of income except the traffic that get monetized and affiliate links. Google does not allow such sites to get paid by their ads so thats out of the question. So that they rely on is to get paid media out and thus these site are full of real news to some extent and some fake analytics in order to inflate the daily content count, which would otherwise be empty everyday.

If you want to trade then do your own TA then depending on other people doing it and news channels dont reveal them before the movements start. They do it after, so they have all the time in the world to correct their predictions.
hero member
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What do you mean by seriousness? I mean, I'm sure you could find a handful of ridiculous news pieces about pretty much every subject. Even time traveler predictions are not new at all: check out John Titor. They're not targeting the Bitcoin market specifically; they're in sports (see: NBA free agency predictions), entertainment (celebrity gossip), science (flat earthers, conspiracy theories, etc.), and everywhere else.

Either way, outside complete censorship, there's nothing we can really do to stop these guys. It's ultimately still up to readers' due diligence if they're going to end up getting swayed by sensationalist clickbait pieces.
legendary
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STOP SNITCHIN'
Do you think this new person will hear people from the forum or will listen to analysts' opinions?

the answer is easy: the person will hear the opinion of the analysts, because for any new person (including myself at 2 years ago) heard the opinion of analysts.

I don't think most of these analysts are malicious. I think the market is simply unpredictable. No one should assume it can be predicted.

Newbies need to make their own mistakes and learn not to follow other peoples' predictions blindly. This will only happen through experience. This isn't a problem. In markets, people either sink or learn to swim.
hero member
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So the price exceeded $11k now, so what's next? do those so called experts will change their story to fit their narrative? I wouldn't bother, we have been in this game for so long to understand and learn to read between the lines.
sr. member
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I really feel so surfocated to see this type of thread popping out every so often in this forum lately, Really! Everyone in crypto know by now not to take the predictions of this so called crypto Analyst seriously, i wonder what you are angry about, it is a decentralized space, everyone is free to say or do what they like, maybe too much serious and analysis is the cause of market down trend Roll Eyes
Since cryptocurrency users have a certain fear of losing their funds, they always react inadequately to the statements of many analysts.  I fully agree with you that you first need to learn how to do analysis of the cryptocurrency market and determine certain predictions yourself, and not believe the words that are not always true.

Every analysis here in the crypto universe is as good as yours and mine. We all have our own way of seeing things, of how things could turn in the next hours and days and months, of how it is being influenced by so many factors, and so on. At the end of the day, as I have said, our analysis, our guesses, are as possible as yours and mine. And then we are suddenly surprised by reality!
full member
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I really feel so surfocated to see this type of thread popping out every so often in this forum lately, Really! Everyone in crypto know by now not to take the predictions of this so called crypto Analyst seriously, i wonder what you are angry about, it is a decentralized space, everyone is free to say or do what they like, maybe too much serious and analysis is the cause of market down trend Roll Eyes
Since cryptocurrency users have a certain fear of losing their funds, they always react inadequately to the statements of many analysts.  I fully agree with you that you first need to learn how to do analysis of the cryptocurrency market and determine certain predictions yourself, and not believe the words that are not always true.
member
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I really feel so surfocated to see this type of thread popping out every so often in this forum lately, Really! Everyone in crypto know by now not to take the predictions of this so called crypto Analyst seriously, i wonder what you are angry about, it is a decentralized space, everyone is free to say or do what they like, maybe too much serious and analysis is the cause of market down trend Roll Eyes
full member
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This is not the first time people will warn crypto traders and investors that they should not believe so much on crypto forecast. Just because crypto went up, we are already hearing and seen many people making predictions here and there that BTC will reach so so amount of price. I am happy the crypto price drop. This will teach many newbie lessons that you should not rely on anyone forecast. Do you own research and do not put more than what you can afford to lose in crypto business. Nobody knows what will happen to the price tomorrow just the way we do not know crypto will reach $12k earlier this year.
legendary
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Meh. It doesn't matter whatever so called experts/gurus/analysts, etc, are saying. The only thing that matters is that you prepare yourself for what is going to happen in the coming 12 months. Every person with a few functioning brain cells should understand that we're currently forming the perfect setup to obliterate the $20,000 all time high.

It technically doesn't even matter if you prefer to wait for a dip or a confirmation that the market is breaking past the $14,000 where it was brutally rejected from a few days ago, all because of how paying a few thousand more or less isn't going to make a difference when we're blasting past $100,000 in the forthcoming years. Prepare for a nuclear price explosion.
jr. member
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Today I read this news:

Bitcoin Price Drops Under $10,000 as Downtrend Continues

today the news had something very different, something shocking, I do not know if was intentional, but today the news had this:



look at the photo

 Angry



days ago an analyst made a very exaggerated price forecast (something that became very common in recent years)... he said this:


BTC could return to its all-time high of $20,000 within one to two weeks, while $50,000 to $100,000 could be achievable by the end of 2019

the guy who said this is @Simon Peters (eToro analyst)

the price is falling a lot and when I see this forecast, I get more angry with those analysts who only make the wrong predictions (their predictions seem like a big joke)

 Angry



week ago I read something very ridiculous, this thing surpasses all the most ridiculous things that I have seen, with the price drop... I remembered this ridiculous thing that I saw a few weeks ago, here is the ridiculous thing:

The Bitcoin time-traveler was right since 2013, and predicts $100K for 2019

We have a time traveler.

current price

1 BTC = $10 268,65 USD (-6,99%)

today is July 2, this means that there have little time for the end of year

I do not believe that someone is able to travel in time and the guy made a very ridiculous prediction

 Angry



What next?



read it twice and relax....

i will sum it for everybody the top minds dismiss price movements because to say crypto will die or will not grow its like saying the in of the world come, this tech going to eat everything but everything the future is decentrlized tech mixed with distributed tech... and was predict long ago buy smart people...== holders,,,and analyzer sharp logic mind 0ver come and bend any feeling...traders are the ones that dont dissmiss price movement there where they do money...but they will never retire and most of the dumb and relay on lines on graphs like support and resistant which is huge bullshit washed all the traders, the smart traders they are holders...but they know also where price go by few simple factors...and its not lines on graphs hhhhh how the hell lines will tell you where things is going up???

but people are not learn and not educate them self in several verticals and other important things and to have sharp logic which know to analyze and look to the future not predict it but see it...for example

decentralized tech=before peer to peer file sharing there was centralized tech
cenentralized tech=here computer a and computer b,c,z,f and other around the world was downloading everything from few central servers which was holding mp3,info,software, and so on ....and the governments pretty fast shut down this servers then people create decntralized tech called peer/computer to peer/computer which now they need to shutdown more then 500 million private computers which upload and download between them without central servers

after this explantion we know from where bitcoin come from peer to peer file sharing and all this lead us to that some people new that peer to peer will take over the world its not prediction its will happen,,,the same with peer to peer money....it will take over the world...mixed with distributed tech
its not about to be prophet and its cannot explain more simple some minds know this and that will solve this before it even know to few people not main stream....like file sharing
search on google decentralized vs distributed
jr. member
Activity: 56
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Today I read this news:

Bitcoin Price Drops Under $10,000 as Downtrend Continues

today the news had something very different, something shocking, I do not know if was intentional, but today the news had this:



look at the photo

 Angry



days ago an analyst made a very exaggerated price forecast (something that became very common in recent years)... he said this:


BTC could return to its all-time high of $20,000 within one to two weeks, while $50,000 to $100,000 could be achievable by the end of 2019

the guy who said this is @Simon Peters (eToro analyst)

the price is falling a lot and when I see this forecast, I get more angry with those analysts who only make the wrong predictions (their predictions seem like a big joke)

 Angry



week ago I read something very ridiculous, this thing surpasses all the most ridiculous things that I have seen, with the price drop... I remembered this ridiculous thing that I saw a few weeks ago, here is the ridiculous thing:

The Bitcoin time-traveler was right since 2013, and predicts $100K for 2019

We have a time traveler.

current price

1 BTC = $10 268,65 USD (-6,99%)

today is July 2, this means that there have little time for the end of year

I do not believe that someone is able to travel in time and the guy made a very ridiculous prediction

 Angry



What next?



i will sum it for everybody the top minds dismiss price movements because to say crypto will die or will not grow its like saying the in of the world come, this tech going to eat everything but everything the future is decentrlized tech mixed with distributed tech... and was predict long ago buy smart people...== holders,,,and analyzer sharp logic mind 0ver come and bend any feeling...traders are the ones that dont dissmiss price movement there where they do money...but they will never retire and most of the dumb and relay on lines on graphs like support and resistant which is huge bullshit washed all the traders, the smart traders they are holders...but they know also where price go by few simple factors...and its not lines on graphs hhhhh how the hell lines will tell you where things is going up???

but people are not learn and not educate them self in several verticals and other important things and to have sharp logic which know to analyze and look to the future not predict it but see it...for example

decentralized tech=before peer to peer file sharing there was centralized tech
cenentralized tech=here computer a and computer b,c,z,f and other around the world was downloading everything from few central servers which was holding mp3,info,software, and so on ....and the governments pretty fast shut down this servers then people create decntralized tech called peer/computer to peer/computer which now they need to shutdown more then 500 million private computers which upload and download between them without central servers

after this explantion we know from where bitcoin come from peer to peer file sharing and all this lead us to that some people new that peer to peer will take over the world its not prediction its will happen,,,the same with peer to peer money....it will take over the world...mixed with distributed tech
its not about to be prophet and its cannot explain more simple some minds know this and that will solve this before it even know to few people not main stream....like file sharing
search on google decentralized vs distributed
legendary
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Cashback 15%
They don’t make prediction just for a big joke, they made that for a purpose and that is to hype the market which whales succeeded. We are seeing the real value of bitcoin now after the hype, its normal for the price to drop as we can see whales are taking profits and small traders or late comers are now crying again. Don’t worry, bitcoin will not go deeper, it will retrace again once the correction is done.

These so called analyst probably conspire with whales, so that people will blindly buy BTC without thinking the possibility of correction.  Most new comers thinks that the price trend will continue to go up and the fear of missing out triggers in them buying what these analyst suggests them to do.

Aside from that, I have read lots of exaggeration even during the bear market where they say Bitcoin is dead.. blah blah blah, that triggers those who has weak hands to have a sell out benefitting these whales.  That is the reason why I stop reading any article with an unrealistic title because all we can see on that article's body is lots of nonsense and non-factual guesses.
sr. member
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I don't know what comes to the mind of the eToro analyst. It's like he's just spewing BS on his predictions. He should be posting his TA on this and also the news and upcoming news why he believes it that way. I don't know why he said that bitcoin could reach 20k in no time well in fact, it took almost 9 years for bitcoin to reach its ATH. Within ONE OR TWO WEEKS? Really?
member
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Presumptions may not always be true.  Many people are giving their statements.  some people giving exactly the opposite statement to the statements given by the other people or groups.  So if one group's statement is proven true the other is definitely the false automatically.
So I do not trust such rumors.  
legendary
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We're in the age of memes, though not in the old sense of the word but rather in a funny, nonsensical, almost trivial meaning of it. With the spread of such ideology--or the way of how information should spread, rather--we tend to see a low-level of effort made in spreading information, moreso the lack of factual, important and eye-worthy information from news outlets and journalists where we expect to see more of it. Anyway though, price-centered news/articles are to be expected from analysts knowing that it's easy to lure in views and clicks other than any topic available out there. No matter how far-fetched the price predictions are and no matter how off the charts (literally) are these people saying, they get views and clicks anyway so why bother predicting for the right trend, right?
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