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Quote from: Hispo on November 10, 2024, 08:26:22 PM

Quote from: BADecker on November 10, 2024, 07:52:17 PM

.... They will become smart enough to figure out other ways to fix their teeth.

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... Like, having an appointment to their dentist ?
It is funny you make dentistry sound as it was like fixing one's car by oneself. We are talking about healthcare, you cannot just assume the bulk of the people within one country are going to invent a new way to fix their own teeth, without having the knowledge and the degree a dentist has.
What is next on your predictions? Once people do not get access to anti-polio vaccines people will figure out by themselves ways to cure the irreversible limb numbing and paralysis caused by polio?
Are you also going to suggest for cancer patients to stop to go through their treatment, so they can figure out how to be their own surgeons and self-extract their tumors? Roll Eyes

I know people of the United States being dumb is a stereotype, but people like you do not help to dispell such stereotypes.

You really need to look at what you are saying. It's the medical - prompted by the medical leaders - that is doing all those dangerous things you talk about. And the reason why you don't recognize it is probably because you have been dumbed down by fluoride.

For example. Covid-19 symptoms are cobra snake venom poisoning symptoms. The medical has been making synthetic snake venom for decades. And now we have Covid. Time for you to start putting 2 + 2 together.

Quote from: ? on November 10, 2024, 08:37:19 PM

I don't believe flouride is bad for you in small quantities, but I do believe people should have a right to choose. Nothing turns me off more than a tyrannical bureaucrat with a PhD on the wall dictating what is best for you. If you want flouride, you can add it to your own water.

In medicine, homeopathy is considered a pseudoscience that doesn't really do anything. Homeopathy uses extremely small quantities of various medicines and elemental substances to treat symptoms. Many people swear that it is effective, even though the medical considers it to be 'quack' medicine.

Fluoride in trace amounts is probably good for you.

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I don't believe flouride is bad for you in small quantities, but I do believe people should have a right to choose. Nothing turns me off more than a tyrannical bureaucrat with a PhD on the wall dictating what is best for you. If you want flouride, you can add it to your own water.

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Quote from: BADecker on November 10, 2024, 07:52:17 PM

.... They will become smart enough to figure out other ways to fix their teeth.

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... Like, having an appointment to their dentist ?
It is funny you make dentistry sound as it was like fixing one's car by oneself. We are talking about healthcare, you cannot just assume the bulk of the people within one country are going to invent a new way to fix their own teeth, without having the knowledge and the degree a dentist has.
What is next on your predictions? Once people do not get access to anti-polio vaccines people will figure out by themselves ways to cure the irreversible limb numbing and paralysis caused by polio?
Are you also going to suggest for cancer patients to stop to go through their treatment, so they can figure out how to be their own surgeons and self-extract their tumors? Roll Eyes

I know people of the United States being dumb is a stereotype, but people like you do not help to dispell such stereotypes.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 10, 2024, 06:12:35 PM

Thanks to Kennedy Jr within the Trump administration dentists in the United States are going to become filthy rich with all the waves of cavities cases which are going to fill their schedules.
I am expecting this wacky administration to force the FDA to forbid dental cream companies and water suppliers to add fluoride to their products, making them exponentially ineffective.
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin and Xin in China will laugh at the mouth of the average American Citizen looking worse than those living in the United Kingdom. Very sad.

Once more, ignorance and stupidity is about the get over science and proven medicine.

It might take a little while to happen. But after the fluoride is gone, people won't be dumbed down so much. They will become smart enough to figure out other ways to fix their teeth.

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Thanks to Kennedy Jr within the Trump administration dentists in the United States are going to become filthy rich with all the waves of cavities cases which are going to fill their schedules.
I am expecting this wacky administration to force the FDA to forbid dental cream companies and water suppliers to add fluoride to their products, making them exponentially ineffective.
Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin and Xin in China will laugh at the mouth of the average American Citizen looking worse than those living in the United Kingdom. Very sad.

Once more, ignorance and stupidity is about the get over science and proven medicine.

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It is writen in red what it really is.
In 2021, it was the 291st most commonly prescribed "medication" in the United States, with more than 600,000 prescriptions.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 23, 2017, 08:52:13 PM

Quote from: protokol on January 23, 2017, 07:58:27 PM

^^ Can you explain the relevance to the subject, i.e. "the truth about fluoride"?

Because as far as I can see, this cool discovery has absolutely nothing to do with toothpaste.

The word "fluorinated" in the above article, depending how it is used, is a verb or an adjective pertaining to something that is treated with fluorine. A fluoride molecule is a molecule that has at least one fluorine atom in it. To get that molecule, some element or other molecule must be fluorinated (treated with fluorine) in some way.

One can easily guess from the "f l u o r i" that starts the words fluoride, fluorinated, and fluorine, that they are all associated, chemically. Searches on the words will show the ways they are associated.

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Yes, fluorinated means it has a fluorine atom in it somewhere. This is not necessarily bad or good. For example, sodium chloride has two elements in it which are very dangerous on their own, but in a salt molecule they are relatively harmless.

The fact that implants may be fluorinated doesn't mean that they are dangerous, in the same way that fluorine gas is. Likewise, salt is not dangerous, in the way that chlorine gas is.

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Quote from: protokol on January 23, 2017, 07:58:27 PM

^^ Can you explain the relevance to the subject, i.e. "the truth about fluoride"?

Because as far as I can see, this cool discovery has absolutely nothing to do with toothpaste.

The word "fluorinated" in the above article, depending how it is used, is a verb or an adjective pertaining to something that is treated with fluorine. A fluoride molecule is a molecule that has at least one fluorine atom in it. To get that molecule, some element or other molecule must be fluorinated (treated with fluorine) in some way.

One can easily guess from the "f l u o r i" that starts the words fluoride, fluorinated, and fluorine, that they are all associated, chemically. Searches on the words will show the ways they are associated.

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^^ Can you explain the relevance to the subject, i.e. "the truth about fluoride"?

Because as far as I can see, this cool discovery has absolutely nothing to do with toothpaste.

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Based on what I have read so far, it seems we must be all dumb from "government" because it seems we cannot just live with this menace called "flouride" as it sis basically found in everything we eat or touch in our everyday lives and even back to the government and those who are in government today, I am sure they must have been citizens first without even knowing they will get to power or office and they are exposed to flouride meaning they are as well dump and my question to Op is very simple " Now that we have seen the truth as exposed to us by you, what can we do about it? starting from what we use to brush to the basic things we eat?" An answer will be appreciated.

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Quote from: Xester on January 20, 2017, 09:57:52 AM

Quote from: protokol on January 20, 2017, 06:20:23 AM

Yeah, some people think fluoridated water is dangerous and causes people to be "dumbed down and make them stupid" or some such bullshit, whereas a cup of tea has much more fluoride in it than most other drinks (such as fluoridated water under the minimum legal levels), and people have been drinking tea for thousands of years, with no obvious ill effects.

It has been scientifically proven to combat tooth decay (It remineralizes damaged enamel).

The only scientific evidence for dangers of fluoride are in extreme cases of far too much fluoride (normally in areas where the drinking water is naturally very high in fluoride). This can cause dental fluorosis and even skeletal fluorosis in extreme cases. In fact, many countries which introduce fluoride into drinking water, also remove it in some areas, where the natural fluoride content is above certain limits, to prevent these problems (eg the USA)

So basically, it seems that a small amount of fluoride is beneficial, but larger amounts can cause fluorosis. There is no solid scientific evidence (or even evidence for a hypothetical mechanism of action) for people being made stupider by fluoride, even in large amounts enough to cause fluorosis.

Flouride is scientifically proven to clean and whitens teeth but it is also scientifically proven that flouride is an endocrine disruptor that can affect your bones, brain, thyroid gland, pineal gland and even your blood sugar levels. There are studies both conducted to human and animals and that study has proven that it can cause brain damage,lowering of IQ, Bone cancer,Disrupted immune sytem and many more.

No, fluoride does not "clean and whiten" your teeth, it strengthens and remineralizes the enamel.

I'd be interested to see some sources on your other claims, regarding normal levels of fluoride. Obviously too much fluoride can be dangerous and unhealthy, but this is well known (and I addressed the main symptoms of excessive fluoride in my first post, namely dental and skeletal fluorosis).

The dose makes the poison - anything can be dangerous in excess. That's why you don't swallow a whole tube of toothpaste.

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Quote from: protokol on January 20, 2017, 06:20:23 AM

Quote from: Zz on January 17, 2017, 12:52:09 PM

Fluoride is a controversial substance. In the past years, damages have been discussed more than their benefits, while the priority has been to freely access toothpastes, even in some countries, to mains water, because it prevents tooth decay at low doses.

We consume fluoride and are exposed to fluoride dangers from the following sources:
Toothpaste with fluoride
Baby formula
Foods cooked in fluoride
Canned soup, or soup in restaurants
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Food cooked in Teflon cookware
Soda pop and soft drinks
Fruit juice (unless it is fresh-squeezed at home)
Beer and wine (unless they are imported from Europe or other areas that don’t fluoridate the water)
Coffee (if made with fluoridated water)
Tea (all tea is naturally high in fluoride, even organic tea)
Kombucha (kombucha is made from tea)
Packaged and processed foods
Anesthetics
Fluoridated salt
Cigarettes

Yeah, some people think fluoridated water is dangerous and causes people to be "dumbed down and make them stupid" or some such bullshit, whereas a cup of tea has much more fluoride in it than most other drinks (such as fluoridated water under the minimum legal levels), and people have been drinking tea for thousands of years, with no obvious ill effects.

It has been scientifically proven to combat tooth decay (It remineralizes damaged enamel).

The only scientific evidence for dangers of fluoride are in extreme cases of far too much fluoride (normally in areas where the drinking water is naturally very high in fluoride). This can cause dental fluorosis and even skeletal fluorosis in extreme cases. In fact, many countries which introduce fluoride into drinking water, also remove it in some areas, where the natural fluoride content is above certain limits, to prevent these problems (eg the USA)

So basically, it seems that a small amount of fluoride is beneficial, but larger amounts can cause fluorosis. There is no solid scientific evidence (or even evidence for a hypothetical mechanism of action) for people being made stupider by fluoride, even in large amounts enough to cause fluorosis.

Flouride is scientifically proven to clean and whitens teeth but it is also scientifically proven that flouride is an endocrine disruptor that can affect your bones, brain, thyroid gland, pineal gland and even your blood sugar levels. There are studies both conducted to human and animals and that study has proven that it can cause brain damage,lowering of IQ, Bone cancer,Disrupted immune sytem and many more.

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Quote from: Zz on January 17, 2017, 12:52:09 PM

Fluoride is a controversial substance. In the past years, damages have been discussed more than their benefits, while the priority has been to freely access toothpastes, even in some countries, to mains water, because it prevents tooth decay at low doses.

We consume fluoride and are exposed to fluoride dangers from the following sources:
Toothpaste with fluoride
Baby formula
Foods cooked in fluoride
Canned soup, or soup in restaurants
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Food cooked in Teflon cookware
Soda pop and soft drinks
Fruit juice (unless it is fresh-squeezed at home)
Beer and wine (unless they are imported from Europe or other areas that don’t fluoridate the water)
Coffee (if made with fluoridated water)
Tea (all tea is naturally high in fluoride, even organic tea)
Kombucha (kombucha is made from tea)
Packaged and processed foods
Anesthetics
Fluoridated salt
Cigarettes

Yeah, some people think fluoridated water is dangerous and causes people to be "dumbed down and make them stupid" or some such bullshit, whereas a cup of tea has much more fluoride in it than most other drinks (such as fluoridated water under the minimum legal levels), and people have been drinking tea for thousands of years, with no obvious ill effects.

It has been scientifically proven to combat tooth decay (It remineralizes damaged enamel).

The only scientific evidence for dangers of fluoride are in extreme cases of far too much fluoride (normally in areas where the drinking water is naturally very high in fluoride). This can cause dental fluorosis and even skeletal fluorosis in extreme cases. In fact, many countries which introduce fluoride into drinking water, also remove it in some areas, where the natural fluoride content is above certain limits, to prevent these problems (eg the USA)

So basically, it seems that a small amount of fluoride is beneficial, but larger amounts can cause fluorosis. There is no solid scientific evidence (or even evidence for a hypothetical mechanism of action) for people being made stupider by fluoride, even in large amounts enough to cause fluorosis.

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Quote from: mk3000 on January 17, 2017, 06:48:32 PM

I think sugar is far worse and is damages your body in so many ways I'm not going to list them here, yet sugar is perfectly legal and is basically in everything we eat. probably a much bigger problem than fluoride

Here we say 4 white deaths: sugar, salt, flour and grease. This ingredients doesnt have nutrition value, we use them just for better taste of the food we eat. All this ingredients are damaging our body that is a fact, but we enjoy in food and people mostly think about this stuff when they get sick. This ingredients can cause high pressure, sugar in blood, and many many other things.

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I think sugar is far worse and is damages your body in so many ways I'm not going to list them here, yet sugar is perfectly legal and is basically in everything we eat. probably a much bigger problem than fluoride

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Chlorine dioxide (sold by DuPont) and hypochlorous acid (made when pool shock touches water) are far less dangerous than sodium fluoride, and do a far better job.

Chlorine dioxide is used to purify water around the world... water in ponds and marshes as well as city drinking water. In sufficiently large quantities (not enough to harm anyone) it kills Malaria when ingested.

Hypochlorous acid is the main ingredient that immune system cells spray on harmful "bugs" in the body to kill them. If we had a bit more of this acid in our bodies, we would never be sick from diseases caused by bacteria and viruses.

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Quote from: dippididodaday on January 17, 2017, 03:40:43 PM

Quote from: Zz on January 17, 2017, 12:52:09 PM

Fluoride is a controversial substance. In the past years, damages have been discussed more than their benefits, while the priority has been to freely access toothpastes, even in some countries, to mains water, because it prevents tooth decay at low doses.

We consume fluoride and are exposed to fluoride dangers from the following sources:
Toothpaste with fluoride
Baby formula
Foods cooked in fluoride
Canned soup, or soup in restaurants
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Food cooked in Teflon cookware
Soda pop and soft drinks
Fruit juice (unless it is fresh-squeezed at home)
Beer and wine (unless they are imported from Europe or other areas that don’t fluoridate the water)
Coffee (if made with fluoridated water)
Tea (all tea is naturally high in fluoride, even organic tea)
Kombucha (kombucha is made from tea)
Packaged and processed foods
Anesthetics
Fluoridated salt
Cigarettes

We are all on the road to debilitatingly dumbed down deaths Angry

PS: I want to be buried 6 feet below, no coffin, no gravestone, just my poisoned brain and body please.

Sharks are more noble creatures than worms. Have them dump you into a shark-infested part of the ocean.

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Quote from: Zz on January 17, 2017, 12:52:09 PM

Fluoride is a controversial substance. In the past years, damages have been discussed more than their benefits, while the priority has been to freely access toothpastes, even in some countries, to mains water, because it prevents tooth decay at low doses.

We consume fluoride and are exposed to fluoride dangers from the following sources:
Toothpaste with fluoride
Baby formula
Foods cooked in fluoride
Canned soup, or soup in restaurants
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Food cooked in Teflon cookware
Soda pop and soft drinks
Fruit juice (unless it is fresh-squeezed at home)
Beer and wine (unless they are imported from Europe or other areas that don’t fluoridate the water)
Coffee (if made with fluoridated water)
Tea (all tea is naturally high in fluoride, even organic tea)
Kombucha (kombucha is made from tea)
Packaged and processed foods
Anesthetics
Fluoridated salt
Cigarettes

We are all on the road to debilitatingly dumbed down deaths Angry

PS: I want to be buried 6 feet below, no coffin, no gravestone, just my poisoned brain and body please.

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Fluoride is a controversial substance. In the past years, damages have been discussed more than their benefits, while the priority has been to freely access toothpastes, even in some countries, to mains water, because it prevents tooth decay at low doses.

We consume fluoride and are exposed to fluoride dangers from the following sources:
Toothpaste with fluoride
Baby formula
Foods cooked in fluoride
Canned soup, or soup in restaurants
Mechanically deboned chicken (i.e. chicken nuggets)
Food cooked in Teflon cookware
Soda pop and soft drinks
Fruit juice (unless it is fresh-squeezed at home)
Beer and wine (unless they are imported from Europe or other areas that don’t fluoridate the water)
Coffee (if made with fluoridated water)
Tea (all tea is naturally high in fluoride, even organic tea)
Kombucha (kombucha is made from tea)
Packaged and processed foods
Anesthetics
Fluoridated salt
Cigarettes

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