Topic: The Truth About Monero's Risto Pietila (rpietila XMR) - warning - page 2. (Read 24488 times)

I actually agree on this part.

Decentralization folks. No kings.

Get out there and compete with your knowledge creation (e.g. source code!) productivity, not your political influence.

Adam Smith's maximum division-of-labor for the greatest benefits of the Invisible Hand. No one person holds the magic wand.

I actually have a personal level interest in Risto. I know him as a very amicable person in verbal conversations. I believe his heart in the right place, but somehow IMO he appears to be stuck on this delusion that those at the top must control and take care of those at the bottom.

I also think he thinks that a good ole' boys club of the capitalists is neato. I don't. I like people, all people, but not because of whether they have money, power, and influence. I like people even the little people and big fat people, because I find every person to be unique and interesting because of it. Meaning I like the diversity of personalities. I've had friends of every race, shape, color, and culture (well not every one on earth so that means I still have more new experiences awaiting me in the future). I like interacting with people on a personal level.

As for juggernauts, I'd love to find at least one coder in my life who I really clicked with. I am hoping there will be many in an open source environment. I am learning. This is new for me.

Mr has me on ignore says "Due Diligence" ?
Oh boy   ..do i love that cliched Crypto retardtort ROFL

If you used "Due Diligence" ..you wouldn't be "investing" in ANY of these coins (including Bitcoin)

Oh and by the way.. risto claimed Bitcoin will be worth 1 million dollars a coin eventually.
So if you take his word for it then what ?
No matter the price it's buy time i guess right ?
Because paying $344,000 for 1 BTC is apparently a massive bargain right ?

This post by me relates to his claims etc.. i am not trying to personally attack the guy.
I actually have no interest in him personally.
What i have a problem with is people who worm their way into a position of influence..
Then abuse it. (whether the abuser knows it or not)

Objectivity.
A concept seemingly lost on Risto.
His topic he created and spammed on here (one of many)
Had a long winded manifesto about his back story here. (he edited out after i mocked him about it)
here is the part he deleted i coped in a parody topic
He claimed to have been in to Bitcoin but Monero was his first Altcoin..
And he went on to dictate his "rules"

So what ever cocky prick who fell into a bag of cash and showed up here to shill some altcoin is now king shit ?
The new crypto genius ?
Who the hell is this Altcoin noob ? LOL

And why does he get a kings crown ?
Best i could tell it was because he claimed to have a pile of money as he showed up
and because he got in on BTC early.. so what lots of people did.
I could have too but i kept putting off looking up Bitcoin every time i heard about it.
He deserves some special reputation because he was an early adopter of Bitcoin (he claims) ?
Really ? Seriously ? Does that prove anything to you all ?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually LOL

Bottom Line:
The guy has a variety of personality issues that are in sharp conflict with his agenda here.
People have tried to talk to him about it and he is defiant.
What ever will be.. will be.
Just don't pretend the guy is not "the way he is" when it's obvious to anyone with half a brain.

PS:
Do you all forget how many times you kept railing on defending Monero saying David Latapie and Risto / rpietila were not apart of the Monero team ?

All the shit those two have pulled last couple years has triggered that response from many of the usual Monero suspects.. only for them to forget they said it 2 minutes later when they are caught lying.
I guess the dev(s) would lie their ass off when their paycheck comes from Dave & Risto huh ?
Which is known because i linked to it lots if you all bothered to read it.. Link
Nothing i said is made up or FUD or an attack etc.
It is quotes from the Monero idiots flapping their gums.. for years.

For example i had either smooth or smoothie on IRC admitting that both those two guys were a cancer to the coin.

Here look at this FUD i posted about Risto on IRC way back..
Note: Smooth was idle watching this being said and as usual stayed silent.

This coin was not a bad buy, it was one of the better investments for me.

Inkblot artist,

Bitter? Lol.

Attack me with lies when I make factual statements about the guy whose shit is all over your brown nose.

I did place bets. Look up the economics terms 'externalities' and 'proxies'. But why should it matter? I wasn't the one leading the flock into buying a speculation at nosebleed prices. Thus my private investments have no bearing on the public-at-large here reading this. How can you commit such an egregious categorical error and claim to be intelligent?

You are (behaving as a mindless) pack dog and not (exhibiting the independence of thought of) an intellectual.

All I have ever seen you do is argue. Did you ever produce anything in your entire life other than that incomprehensible gibberish you claim is poetry/art? Where?


I am just setting the record straight so readers won't go idolizing Risto as if he is some kind of magic wand. If you want to hang off the end of his joystick, that is your prerogative.

If I have written anything false about Risto, please correct me. I am not the one who is bragging claiming a 167 IQ.    (Me thinks something smells funny about the IQ tests there in Finland)



Good ole' boys Cargo cult circle-jerks don't impress me. Professionalism impresses me.

By doing due diligence we will realize that you never placed a bet on any of those things happening--perhaps if you had, you would have made some money and would come across as far less bitter.

Risto created a massive bubble in XMR with his incessant pumping which caused many to buy at nosebleed high prices and then XMR dumped down to very low prices for a year.

Risto was advising everyone to not sell BTC all the way down from $700ish (while he was selling at the price $1.5 million to buy his castle), while I was saying it would bottom below $300. And then when it went below $300, I said it would bottom at $150. After that, I also made mistake of thinking it might go lower again.

Stop idolizing men. Fools. Do your own due diligence.

Me too, I  would love a hot tip

Pump and dump again??
Do you really believe Risto caused Bitcoin to go up? Monero?

Lot's more people that Risto saw the potential of Bitcoin and Monero (wasn't Gavin Anderson one?)

Seems to me he had a view, voiced it and was right about the timing and the direction... twice.
If you'd followed his advice on timing and direction you would have done very well. Price targets are known to be harder to calculate, so all in all it has been good advice.

Risto...if you are reading this I'd love to know if you ever have another trading idea. I won't blame you if it doesn't work, but I'd love to know.
You are welcome to PM me if you like.

It is normal for a person to have trouble in life. If you are not having problems you are not a person.

You are full of shit and defending him because you are a Monero shill.
And Monero was attacked on this topic.

You are 100% full of shit.. as all Monero idiots.

I have proven citing links to his shenanigans here countless times before.

And intelligent ?

He thought it was ok to have his employee Mr. Latapie hand him MEW donated funds to start a forum game for the purpose of adoption which he characterized as a powerful asset. (within the context of adoption)
AKA: he's an idiot if he thinks posting then spamming a forum game here is going to do fuck all.

He started doing that simply because he likes playing "forum games" (and wants to hang around)
Me i think they are incredibly fucking gay beyond comprehension.

His facade of using donated funds to do that is simply retarded.

Why did he do that with out permission and why did David hand him the money ?
And how much did he take exactly and why was his employee the MEW treasurer ?
And did Risto employee the Treasurer to work on the game ?

And when he was confronted by his own supporters why did he mouth them off calling them FUD'ers ?

Like how dare you ask the mighty king risto any questions (about where your donated money went)

Tip of the bloody god damn mother fucking ice berg.
These Monero retards are a pack of vipers here in crypto.

Risto is the best poster ?
I don't EVER recall him commenting with his OWN ACCOUNT in this section.
So how can you claim fuck all ?

I hope you Morono idiots get cancer and die.
You are nothing but bullshitting little weasels flogging your gay coin crap.

Hey idiots pay me $23,000 i plan on starting a topic in the Altcoin section so i can spam it for advertising.  

I am thoroughly fed up with the Monero cult.

PS:
Dark Markets.. Monero = Pedo, Guns and Fentanyl coin.

Then how did he get himself in such troubles?


Are we in church or a competition to produce the best technological innovation?


Who wouldn't be?


Did you say anything?

The funny thing is Risto is an intelligent well mannered insightful and generally a better poster than most here.

So...I guess you can draw your own conclusions from that.

When all the things that change the world and impact evolution have shifted to knowledge creation, which money can't buy, then influence over and actual knowledge creation are more valued than money. You can go buy all the useless castles you want, while I change the world. Then we will compare accomplishments.

Also pray tell Satoshi that I can't monetize my Bitcoin killer. He certainly did. But money isn't the goal and he presumably knew that also.

My goal is to move us to the next stage where knowledge creation is important and money (hard resources) less so. Atoms are heavy, but finitely so. Knowledge creation is unbounded. Compare.

In short, your ladder is not a metric of greatest importance. It the illusion that is going to trap the capitalists as we move towards the return of Jesus where resources don't matter any more. Jesus is coming technologically even if not literally.

That is why I suggested you should use your money for good while it still has any relevance. Yeah I am in a rough spot right now financially, but Jesus told me to walk with nothing and stay focused on what is important. (that doesn't mean I am a saint!)


Raising your level in the wrong direction has made you much less likely to have any important impact. You are moving farther away from any sensible decentralized lurch towards the knowledge age with your socialist monetary scheme which is competing directing with the TPTB because it is a power vacuum direction.

Whereas, I am creating technological advances which decentralize and eliminate the power vacuum. And also provides a basic level income for a basic level of work. Which is the way it should be, not some socialistic scheme.


The only non power vacuum will come from technology that renders concentrated control over wealth impotent over anything other than resource capitalism.

Bitcoin failed because it burns a physical resource.

The positive scaling law of Linus' law is the solution. It is the only positive scaling law of software (technology) engineering. And it also applies to truth in a way that I am going to be the first to bring to a money system.

Please continue thinking of me as lower on your ladder. I am confident that is what they thought of Jesus too as he humbly hung out with the bankers and prostitutes because he said that is where the ripe fruit was for saving souls.


Edit: Adam Smith pointed out that those trying to promote the public interest often do worse than those who work for their own optimum economics, due to the invisible hand (or otherwise stated, "you can't do just one thing" ... see how conversationalists destroyed the rivers by trying to save the wildlife from predator wolves). Your goody-goody socialistic coin is in the same genre of myopia:

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/macroeconomics/gdp-topic/econ-intro-in-macro-tutorial/v/introduction-to-economics

What is the relationship between XMR and Poloniex?

It depends if you are creating a system and how well that system adapts--take the Medici's use of art as symbol creation. Not sure why you conflate the two, but power is given to the symbol that already correlates to a preconceived idealization--it's the artist's job to reconfigured the symbol to either match a current systemic view or to break the mold or to revamp it with new ideas. There are just stars we use for directional pathways as we navigate life and money is the symbolic ocean we swim to get there, or at least off this rock. Your pessimism about us getting to another place has always been palpable, but you've never checked your ego at the door and said, "what if?" EM's aren't supposed to work, but the testing data says otherwise, so are the engineers wrong or the ______'s who forgot to calculate the square root of nothing is the base point of all exploration. Some people can imagine things into existence.

And as I've been trying to tell you, you are creating that problem for yourself unnecessarily. You are trying to replace TPTB with yourself. That is not the correct solution. We don't need more idols (Ten Commandments). Read below...



Creating as much money as needed is a lie to yourself. Money can't buy knowledge creation:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212 <--- the OP of the Economic Devastation thread
The Rise of Knowledge
http://unheresy.com/Information%20Is%20Alive.html

It is the knowledge creation which is needed and valuable. Money is a claim on resources, but not a claim on knowledge creation (because it can't be, read my essay linked above).

The power to create unlimited money (even by having people follow) is never a desirable power because it is a power vacuum.

It can never be a truth that money which is created by following leaders is an honest/truthful or nonviolent money system, because it will always be a power vacuum.

The foundation of your plan appears to begin with fundamental logic errors. Sorry. IQ tests lie.

More deletions:

Pre-empting my post being deleted by copying it over here:

Unfortunately it appears Risto is in full denial of his responsibility for his issues. Risto prompted me to write more, by revealing in public what I thought was only for my private eyes (e.g. writing about his wife now in public which he told to me in private might endanger her and his kids, yet he goes ahead and does it any way, which is why I had decided to STFU because I thought was sincere about needing to not be public with his private affairs)

He apparently is incapable of differentiating sincere and objective inquiry and concern, from "personal insult".


Wonderful it sounds as a principle. Unfortunately I think Risto may be deluding himself and digging himself deeper into an isolated pyschological hole in the ground.



When I interacted with you on the phone in the period roughly 2009 - 2011 regarding physical silver deals, I realized you had a sharp mind (did you get same impression from me?) but I had no idea you scored that high on a Mensa approved IQ test.

I have detected that you are very computationally astute (apparently faster than me, as you excel in gaming more than me).

I had demonstrated to you that I am conceptually (in the abstract) astute for example when I suggested you sell the silver the Finnish officials impounded to the public (to gain leverage) and when I helped you game theory strategize about how to deal with that one large buyer who connected with officials and hadn't paid you. I think both outcome were reasonably successful with my paradigm-shift conceptual input being helpful.

I am not comparing egos. Rather my point is I can vouch for your high intellect. He is not likely bullshitting us, although 167 is very high. I have never scored that any where near that high on an IQ test.

My sustained mental cognition is no where near what it was in 2010 because of liver+digestive illness. My peak mental cognition is still as high as it was, but I only get this is spurts now. So the average quality of my production will be lower now, unless I filter my output to only when I am sharp minded.


I think your activism is your downfall.

Activism is for loser tards. Real power players do action, not activism political BS that mires them in clusterfuck morass of politics.

Building popularity here for what? To sell them Monero at 10X the price at which it will bottom again?


Always getting in political trouble everything you do? Maybe you should ask yourself why, so you don't repeat the same patterns.


So is the only thing you can use your arithmetic IQ for is selling speculations to emotional n00bs?

I am challenging you to maximize your talents.


I was involved to a very minor degree. So I believe this happened.


Europeans kick Americans ass on being polyglot. I am holiday proficient in two languages, and Spanish wouldn't be that hard for me. I knew a lot of Latin and French in 9th grade, but have since forgotten it all. However, I am polyglot in numerous computer programming languages.


But how to not get yourself into these situations in the first place.


And you wonder why you bring trouble to yourself    

Are you sure you have a 167 IQ? Is it all in computational capability and no common sense?


Useless, and it brought trouble to you.


I am very skeptical of those claims. Where is the white paper with proofs?


You will not oust the Euro from Finland with this project. If you think so, you are suffering from delusion.

You are bringing more trouble to yourself and accomplishing nothing useful.


You have thrown $1 million of BTC down a rat hole that isolates and supports your delusions and bizarre projects that have not real world relevancy.


Man you need to stop. But you won't listen. You are determined to push yourself into trouble.

I have to conclude your psychologist is either corrupted by your money and incompetent.


This applies to you also. You seem to be entirely out-of-touch with reality.


If you had been reading me for past weeks, then you would have known it was 75% sure that Trump would win.


You are burning bridges which is a strong indicator of being crazy.

If all of your family is indeed that lunatic, then there is a high likelihood you are too.

I am worried about you Risto. You seem to be exhibiting signs of going off the rails. Seriously. As your former business acquaintance, I am urging you to please get out of your shell and go see a competent independent psychologist. See 3 or 4 and get independent assessments so you can triangulate. And print out my comment for them to read.