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It was Stalin who helped Hitler in the first place. Read Army would fail without USA help. In WW2 there where other nations fighting with Hitler, Poles, Baltic Countries, Norway, Yugoslavia, Australia, Czechoslovakia and many others.

If Stalin helped Hitler, then the Americans also did the same. Shameless people trying to take credit for someone else's efforts. Soviet Union fought Hitler for 5 years, and sacrificed 27 million of its citizens. The Americans started fighting only after it was clear that the Nazis are going to be defeated, and joined the Allies only to get a fair share of the post-war loot.

At the begging it was Stalin who helped Hitler conquer Poland. Later Hitler attacked Soviet Union so Stalin had to fight him, so its quite different to USA.
Also Americans were giving supplies to Soviet Union before it was certain Nazi would fail
http://www.viktory.5317shkid.edusite.ru/p4aa1.html




The tank clearly was on breaks due to a driver error, thats why the other tank was unable to pull it, does not make the parade any less classy. Russia + China + India = Rip America

China is playing for herself, now its convenient for them to partnership with Russia but if they feel it would be better to leave her thy would do so.
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The tank clearly was on breaks due to a driver error, thats why the other tank was unable to pull it, does not make the parade any less classy. Russia + China + India = Rip America
legendary
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It was Stalin who helped Hitler in the first place. Read Army would fail without USA help. In WW2 there where other nations fighting with Hitler, Poles, Baltic Countries, Norway, Yugoslavia, Australia, Czechoslovakia and many others.

If Stalin helped Hitler, then the Americans also did the same. Shameless people trying to take credit for someone else's efforts. Soviet Union fought Hitler for 5 years, and sacrificed 27 million of its citizens. The Americans started fighting only after it was clear that the Nazis are going to be defeated, and joined the Allies only to get a fair share of the post-war loot.
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Russia is a first class military power, and Russia is backed by China and India, whose soldiers marched with Russia’s in the parade.

You mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMvBFgnmY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQgKxIvHQSg

Russia biggest military trump are nukes, other then that its difficult to say which "class" it is.

So, while the increasingly irrelevant West, absorbed in its own self-importance, snubbed
the celebration of the victory that the Red Army gave them over Hitler,

It was Stalin who helped Hitler in the first place. Read Army would fail without USA help. In WW2 there where other nations fighting with Hitler, Poles, Baltic Countries, Norway, Yugoslavia, Australia, Czechoslovakia and many others.

the three largest countries in the world were present united. Russia has the largest land mass, and China and India, also large land masses, have the world’s largest populations.

You forgot to mention that in the pas years Kim Jong Un was on Russian parade but decided not to be this year.

Consider now the impact on Washington’s vassal states in Europe, the crux of the American Empire. Europeans are aware that two of the most powerful military states in history did not survive their invasions of Russia. Napoleon lost the Grande Army in Russia, and Hitler lost the Wehrmacht in Russia. It has dawned on Europeans that they are being shoved into conflict with Russia in the interest of Washington’s claim to be the World Hegemon. Europeans are accustomed to obey Washington, but when it came to being forced into conflict with Russia, Europeans began to express dissent. Signs of an independent European foreign policy appeared with Merkel and Hollande’s meeting with Putin to resolve the Ukrainian crisis orchestrated by Washington.

After WW2 almost half of Europe was under influence of Russia but somehow today countries like Lithuania Latvia Poland Czech Republic Slovakia Hungary Romania Yugoslavia Bulgaria are quite happy without Soviet Union.
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Is Washington Coming To Its Senses? — Paul Craig Roberts

May 15, 2015


Paul Craig Roberts

There is much speculation about US Secretary of State John Kerry’s rush visit to Russia in the wake of Russia’s successful Victory Day celebration on May 9. On May 11, Kerry, who was snubbing Russia on the 9th, was on his way to Russia, and Putin consented to see him on May 12.

As time passes we will find out why Kerry was snubbing Putin on May 9 and 3 days later was criticizing Washington’s puppet regime in Ukraine. For what is known at this time, a possible explanation is that Washington is coming to its senses.

If you watched the 1 hour 20 minute video of the Victory Day Parade, you are aware that the celebration sent a powerful message. Russia is a first class military power, and Russia is backed by China and India, whose soldiers marched with Russia’s in the parade.

So, while the increasingly irrelevant West, absorbed in its own self-importance, snubbed
the celebration of the victory that the Red Army gave them over Hitler, the three largest countries in the world were present united. Russia has the largest land mass, and China and India, also large land masses, have the world’s largest populations.

The celebration in Moscow made it clear that Washington has failed miserably to isolate Russia. What Washington has done is to make the BRICS more unified.

With the President of China sitting at the right hand of Putin, the celebration also made it completely clear even to the morons in the Obama regime that Washington is no longer the Uni-power.

Consider now the impact on Washington’s vassal states in Europe, the crux of the American Empire. Europeans are aware that two of the most powerful military states in history did not survive their invasions of Russia. Napoleon lost the Grande Army in Russia, and Hitler lost the Wehrmacht in Russia. It has dawned on Europeans that they are being shoved into conflict with Russia in the interest of Washington’s claim to be the World Hegemon. Europeans are accustomed to obey Washington, but when it came to being forced into conflict with Russia, Europeans began to express dissent. Signs of an independent European foreign policy appeared with Merkel and Hollande’s meeting with Putin to resolve the Ukrainian crisis orchestrated by Washington.

Faced with the failure of its policy of isolating Russia and the emergence of an independent foreign policy in Europe, Washington sent Kerry as a supplicant to Putin to work out a way to de-escalate the Ukrainian crisis. Putin being a peacemaker will permit Washington to save face. But this will not please the neoconsevatives or the military/security complex. The former are invested heavily in claims of Amerika Uber Alles, and the latter are lusting for the abundant revenues from a new cold, or hot, war.

Obama, Kerry, and Cameron have to become magicians. They have to transition from demonizing Putin to working with him.

Having failed with force against Russia, the West is now employing seduction. If Western peoples hope to escape from the Police State that Washington has imposed on the entire Western World, we must pray that Putin does not fall for the seduction.

There is no world leadership in the West. There is only selfishness and hubris. Western “leadership” is exploitative. The West loots the non-West and is now turning on itself with its looting of Ireland and Greece, with Italy, Spain, and Portugal the next targets for looting. The American public itself has been looted of its jobs, career aspirations, and civil liberties.

The Western model of “democratic capitalism” turns out to be neither democratic nor capitalist, but a form of fascism ruled by an oligarchy. The United States is where regime change is most badly needed.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/05/15/washington-coming-senses-paul-craig-roberts/


I'm sure that there are plenty of bloody dictatorships that would be more than happy to have obama be their president.
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Is Washington Coming To Its Senses? — Paul Craig Roberts

May 15, 2015


Paul Craig Roberts

There is much speculation about US Secretary of State John Kerry’s rush visit to Russia in the wake of Russia’s successful Victory Day celebration on May 9. On May 11, Kerry, who was snubbing Russia on the 9th, was on his way to Russia, and Putin consented to see him on May 12.

As time passes we will find out why Kerry was snubbing Putin on May 9 and 3 days later was criticizing Washington’s puppet regime in Ukraine. For what is known at this time, a possible explanation is that Washington is coming to its senses.

If you watched the 1 hour 20 minute video of the Victory Day Parade, you are aware that the celebration sent a powerful message. Russia is a first class military power, and Russia is backed by China and India, whose soldiers marched with Russia’s in the parade.

So, while the increasingly irrelevant West, absorbed in its own self-importance, snubbed
the celebration of the victory that the Red Army gave them over Hitler, the three largest countries in the world were present united. Russia has the largest land mass, and China and India, also large land masses, have the world’s largest populations.

The celebration in Moscow made it clear that Washington has failed miserably to isolate Russia. What Washington has done is to make the BRICS more unified.

With the President of China sitting at the right hand of Putin, the celebration also made it completely clear even to the morons in the Obama regime that Washington is no longer the Uni-power.

Consider now the impact on Washington’s vassal states in Europe, the crux of the American Empire. Europeans are aware that two of the most powerful military states in history did not survive their invasions of Russia. Napoleon lost the Grande Army in Russia, and Hitler lost the Wehrmacht in Russia. It has dawned on Europeans that they are being shoved into conflict with Russia in the interest of Washington’s claim to be the World Hegemon. Europeans are accustomed to obey Washington, but when it came to being forced into conflict with Russia, Europeans began to express dissent. Signs of an independent European foreign policy appeared with Merkel and Hollande’s meeting with Putin to resolve the Ukrainian crisis orchestrated by Washington.

Faced with the failure of its policy of isolating Russia and the emergence of an independent foreign policy in Europe, Washington sent Kerry as a supplicant to Putin to work out a way to de-escalate the Ukrainian crisis. Putin being a peacemaker will permit Washington to save face. But this will not please the neoconsevatives or the military/security complex. The former are invested heavily in claims of Amerika Uber Alles, and the latter are lusting for the abundant revenues from a new cold, or hot, war.

Obama, Kerry, and Cameron have to become magicians. They have to transition from demonizing Putin to working with him.

Having failed with force against Russia, the West is now employing seduction. If Western peoples hope to escape from the Police State that Washington has imposed on the entire Western World, we must pray that Putin does not fall for the seduction.

There is no world leadership in the West. There is only selfishness and hubris. Western “leadership” is exploitative. The West loots the non-West and is now turning on itself with its looting of Ireland and Greece, with Italy, Spain, and Portugal the next targets for looting. The American public itself has been looted of its jobs, career aspirations, and civil liberties.

The Western model of “democratic capitalism” turns out to be neither democratic nor capitalist, but a form of fascism ruled by an oligarchy. The United States is where regime change is most badly needed.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/05/15/washington-coming-senses-paul-craig-roberts/
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