The Unnecessary Pressure For Merits - page 3.

Obari

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Activity: 602

Merit: 442

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Quote from: kamvreto on October 31, 2022, 05:31:50 PM

Quote from: jackg on October 31, 2022, 12:15:14 PM

~snip~There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do).

Making posts too high is like imposing quality that he really can't afford and in the end he just makes posts without any response because he can't discuss because he doesn't really understand what is being discussed. quite often come across newbie posters like this, where he just asks a question and then leaves.
A good post is certainly not on how high the quality is, but judging on the benefits that will be generated, as well as the new knowledge that can be obtained. Contributions like this are certainly of higher quality and quantity, so there are discussions that provide solutions.

I do respond to discussions and questions on my topics if you ever get to take a time to check them.
All my topics are on my watchlist and whenever a question is been raised without a answer from the forum members, I try my best to get the question answered.
We're all here to learn and I'm sure learning everyday.
Thanks @kamvreto, but I do monitor activities on my post

Crypt0Gore

sr. member

Activity: 952

Merit: 275

The truth is always bitter

The reason why there is pressure on merit system is because some people are joining this forum to make money, some are referred by their friends but it's all about making money and the only way to get this up and running is by earning merits by all means possible, this is the truth that few people are going to ignore but I will say it anyway.

I have seen a high rank member sending me a PM to send them merit and they will return the favour, if merit is nothing to take seriously why are they doing this?

qwertyup23

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 789

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

Like what I previously mentioned to posts like these, there is nothing wrong with people looking for merits. The problem stems if a person completely focuses on merit too much to the point that they do more harm than good in the forum.

Like what you also mentioned OP, focus on contribution and knowledge on the forum. If your focus is on contribution, then merits will be the by-product of your efforts. Instead of you chasing merits, merits would be the one chasing your account!

Oceat

sr. member

Activity: 2506

Merit: 368

If you contribute a helpful topic in a thread even if you are a low rank or high ranking member you will earn that merit in no time. If your goal is to learn you should not be pressured by the merit system since it will come once you make an interesting topic that merit sources or even not a merit source members you will eventually get a merit.

If someone is pressured with the merit system then they are not here for knowledge and that says they are here for a different reasons. Just think about it if someone is getting pressure about it then it differs to their intentions from getting knowledge.

hatshepsut93

legendary

Activity: 3024

Merit: 2148

The pressure to get merits is caused by desire to join well-paying sig campaigns, which require high rank. And this is a problem, because this forum shouldn't be treated as a job. There's no guarantee that sig campaigns will be a thing in the next year, or that this forum won't vanish suddenly. And after that, what would people who relied on sig campaigns do? There's no other forums that pay for crypto discussions as well as this forum does.

kamvreto

legendary

Activity: 1946

Merit: 1157

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Quote from: jackg on October 31, 2022, 12:15:14 PM

~snip~There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do).

Making posts too high is like imposing quality that he really can't afford and in the end he just makes posts without any response because he can't discuss because he doesn't really understand what is being discussed. quite often come across newbie posters like this, where he just asks a question and then leaves.
A good post is certainly not on how high the quality is, but judging on the benefits that will be generated, as well as the new knowledge that can be obtained. Contributions like this are certainly of higher quality and quantity, so there are discussions that provide solutions.

The Cryptovator

legendary

Activity: 2394

Merit: 2223

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Yea, you shouldn't take unnecessary merit pressure since you earned a decent amount of merits. And if you keep contributing would get more. If we focused on posting quality rather than focus on merit, then we may earn merits and can make a decent forum as well. But those who are struggling only for merits definitely are taking unnecessary merit pressure. That's how can't be an established member here.

Sanitough

hero member

Activity: 2856

Merit: 674

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on October 31, 2022, 09:54:58 AM

OP, you can shorten your post to this quote.

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The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts.
Be short and concise.

Just go straight and direct to the point. After all, we don’t make good and quality posts just to earn merits, but most likely to discuss something and gives a clear idea about it so that others will also learn and benefit from it. Yes, the longer the post the more errors you make, so prefer short but precise so that the readers will easily get the point.

Asiska02

hero member

Activity: 994

Merit: 701

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

This forum is quite distinct from others. You have so much freedom here that no one dares to criticize your judgment or position on a specific topic given as long as it does not violate the forum rules of deceiving people into some kind of phony or scam projects, others, etc. Your opinion on views is entitled to you only, even though necessary answer is given to a question being asked, you can still do your own research before coming to a conclusion about it.

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Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

It is true that when you offer a solution to an issue posed in the forum, you are rewarded. But don't be disappointed if you're not rewarded after feeling you've just answered a question or contributed something excellent to the forum that should have been rewarded. The merit of a post is still determined by the reader's perspective on it and how it can benefit him or her in any way. Merit is always entitled to the reader's view.

Agbe

legendary

Activity: 1022

Merit: 1341

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

OP, this your post is an irony on is own. This forum is to share ideas precisely on Bitcoin but not any how idea. Even the questions needed in forum is based on Bitcoin not like other social media groups that you asked shit and people would be praising you. Your answers and questions must be constructive from your brain not copy and paste.
Yes we solved problems of Bitcoin related issues. What are they learning here? Of course Bitcoin and it elements, features and it characteristics. So comparing this forum with another social media groups is an error.
If you don't know let me tell you, if you or anyone wants to be prosperous in life and in this forum is learning how to trade and invest on Bitcoin. I am an experienced professional teacher in the forum. In my understanding to you OP. The subject matter is like an opposite to the op.

nakamura12

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 669

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Many people have done many things in this forum. It is correct that a forum or a group is like that where they share, ask, answer and more except this forum is kind of like that but it's also more than that which is explained by BlackHatCoiner and there's also rules either it's unofficial or official. Having rules will help us know which person who abused the forum by spamming, scamming, plagiarism +more (just check bitmover's explanation) and who doesn't. Let's say that this platform is best version of other forums out there.

Issa56

hero member

Activity: 1484

Merit: 928

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

Some people do join the forum with different mindset, some people join just because they want to make money but they fail to understand what the purpose of the forum is, Bitcointalk is a open forum where discussions about bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general is been done, when you are having problem you can share it on the forum and you will definitely get solution to your problem.
when you keep on making quality post and you keep on making contributions to people's posts then merit shouldn't be a problem, just make quality posts you will see someone that will like the post and it will be merited, but some people don't want to learn here, they just want to rank up so that they can join signature campaign and make money, which in the process of being desperate to rank up they will endup going against the forum rules and they will lose their account.

BlackHatCoiner

legendary

Activity: 1512

Merit: 7340

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Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group

You can't have an extra income from posting in every other online forum. You can't call the administrator an asshole without punishment in every other online forum. Every other online forum doesn't have sixty million written messages in its board. Bitcointalk is different. It has character.

I still don't find the title very relevant.

Dunamisx

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Activity: 952

Merit: 555

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group

I fail to agree on this, bitcointalk is not like other online forums where you could discover alot of inappropriation and abuse of use there, bitcointalk is solely designed for discussions on bitcoin while other can centralized social media forums that can make new adjustment to their protocols and code of engagement in using their services.

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Your pursuit for bitcoin knowledge here is very important to consider because it is what makes your stay here worthwhile, there's actually no boarders to how far you can go in learning, only if you stay and remain committed to what you do with bitcoin and on bitcointalk forum.

Upgrade00

legendary

Activity: 2114

Merit: 2248

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The pressure is mostly self inflicted by the user. I find it to be newer member who discuss merits more, giving tips on how to I get them and how not to.
There is a certain fascination with ranks, coins and privileges associated with those ranks, but that doesn't create any desperation, except the user already has one or develops one.

Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Aptly said.
Many people are introduced to the forum as a means of earning an income, and start chasing ways to rank up inorder to unlock the opportunities required, leading to spam and merit buying.

jackg

copper member

Activity: 2856

Merit: 3071

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It takes a while to get noticed round here as a newbie, it always has but I don't think that should be as discouraging as it seems to be for a lot of users. If you're around a lot and start to merge thoughts with the community, or offer insights to an alternative view then you'll start earning quite a few merits.

There's no point in being too high quality of a poster either, just make some good posts and make some contributions (quantity over quality to start with might be a good way to learn - however feels most comfortable is probably the easiest to do).

Obari

sr. member

Activity: 602

Merit: 442

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on October 31, 2022, 09:54:58 AM

OP, you can shorten your post to this quote.

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The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts.
Be short and concise.

Thank you so much for your kindy advice, and I have taken an immediate step to make the necessary correction.

lovesmayfamilis

legendary

Activity: 2072

Merit: 4265

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OP, you can shorten your post to this quote.

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The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Do not think that the longer the post, the more it will be recognized. Starting to read your long text, not reading to the end, you can understand what you are getting at. Therefore, you notice that experienced people do not create huge tests that do not carry anything new, nevertheless, they surprise beginners with their merits. Most people just don't read long posts.
Be short and concise.

bitmover

legendary

Activity: 2352

Merit: 6089

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Quote from: Obari on October 31, 2022, 08:25:45 AM

I'm still very new on this platform, but while learning through the forum, I try as much as possible to catch up with the activities of the forum, while sticking to the rules and regulations of the forum and avoiding plagiarism as this is one offense that seems as the most in the forum And I also hope my fellows, try as much as possible to avoid plagiarism and always reference what ever post
gotten from any other source.

There aren't so many rules here... I feel this as an open space. You can say whatever you want here, nobody will be censoring you.

You can't just abuse the system: plagiarism, referral links, spam to bump posts, and things like that.

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I've also read some topics advising newbies to avoid unnecessary show of membership relevance, as this very act alone leads to desperation, and anything done out of desperation mostly don't turn out very well and might lead to ban of one's account in the forum.
I also read a comment, when a legendary member said "NEWBIES POST AS IF, THEY'LL BE PUNISHED IF THEY FAIL TO MAKE A POST." I felt that real hard because, I was a victim of this not until I understood that generally the forum activity count has been programmed to get just 14 posts in two weeks, which indirectly means we're only required to make just one quality post a day.
So why the rush and pressure?

I am have been in this forum for nearly 5 years on a dailyy basis and I don't agree.
Newbie are welcome here. When I see a newbie asking a legit question, I always give them a merit. Because legit and honest users trying to learn crypto are welcome here.

There is no pressure. If you are feeling pressure, you might be doing something wrong. Just read and post the truth and merits will come naturally.

Obari

sr. member

Activity: 602

Merit: 442

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The forum, is just like every other online forum or group, and all one is needed to do is just to discuss and share ideas, ask necessary question, answer questions, help solve a problem and in general be ready to unlearn,learn and relearn.

Always try to give solutions to problems, when people present a topic seeking for solution, as this also fascinates meriting a post.

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