Topic: The US Govt stole your coins - not MtGox - page 3. (Read 7064 times)

Mx. Gox was an embarrassment to the Japanese. If BTC-E closed overnight there would be an equal number of newspaper editors writing about how Bitcoin needed to be regulated. It's not a coincidence, it's the usual media flood of article on how to fix things.

It is possible the NSA did this all for sake of trying to get regulations in place but c'mon... some people also believe the government blew up the Twin Towers.

Do you find it to be a coincidence
right after MtGox file for bankruptcy an article came out to regulate bitcoin?
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/26/japan-studies-regulation-of-bitcoin-after-mt-gox-goes-dark/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

*IF* the government is indeed involved...It's NOT stealing. It's a criminal investigation linked to Silk Road, which is why Gox in particular is involved. They didn't "steal" the coins, they're holding them in storage under their control because Gox's bitcoins are incriminated.

Gox has been around a long time.
If the cold storage wallet was generated in the early days before bitcoin had much value it may not have been protected very well.

What would be idiotic is thinking the thief would be able to compromise wallet.dat files from multiple exchanges.

Honestly I'm leaning towards this theory too. Only one difference they didn't "steal" them, they're holding them in storage because of how Gox is supposedly linked to Silk Road. Or something...This also explains why Mark and Gox are not telling us a whole lot about what the hell is going on, and why they've been lying - they're under gag order so they can't say anything substantial. In any case, we should be getting more details on this topic daily so the truth will hopefully come out.

What if the thief made a copy of his cold storage wallet.dat file early on, maybe before it was cold storage.
He thinks the coins are safe but some one moves them a year or 2 later.
When he sinks his cold storage he finds the coins are all transferred out.

I agree.  How naive to think that BIG BOTHER hasn't put his hands in this honey pot.

I have no evidence, but GOVERNMENT!!!

I don't buy the theft-over-years-that-no-one-noticed explanation either. Or transaction malleability in any way adding up to hundreds of thousands of bitcoin, even with Gox's terrible accounting.

But what about the lost-the-private-keys possibility?: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/somethings-not-right-at-gox/

From the above:

Some approximation of this hypothesis stands as my most powerful one as well, and has for some time.  We'll see I guess.

I want to know more, are we there yet?

yes agreed. there is morethan simple hack here.

Seeing as how not anyone on this forum has provided ANY evidence that proves otherwise, I'm sticking with this as a far more likely theory.

Gox has been watched by the US govt for years now. If you were being pressured to conform to regulations, then had an account shut down by DHS, would you try to steal ALL the coins out of your cold storage wallet for everyone to see?

No mention by the "experts" or general media of the transaction that started to disperse the cold wallet funds: https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805. It would be a simple matter for the Feds to ask Karpeles why these transactions were made. We would already be hearing about it if they were. With so much heat, I simply cannot believe that Karpeles would try to steal hundreds of millions in broad daylight.

Many will say it was incompetence. I don't buy that either. Transaction malleability doesn't explain how a cold wallet just starts dividing up coins. No one hacked the coins. They were moved by someone with the private keys, and maybe, that person had a gun to their head.

To think that you can replace an entire monetary empire without these kinds of black ops being waged is completely ridiculous. The mainstream media story completely fits with the governments MO of "problem, reaction, solution" - there's a reason for that, and its not a coincidence.