What is this the NewBit World Order?
...or do they get 80%+ for 1% of the people?
Topic: The "Vladimir Club" - page 5. (Read 20386 times)
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What is this the NewBit World Order?
...or do they get 80%+ for 1% of the people?
What is this the NewBit World Order?
...or do they get 80%+ for 1% of the people?
How many do you think are eligible for the club today? I would think it is far less than 5000 individuals, maybe closer to 500.. 
surely can't be more than 10000.
Another guesstimation I just did puts the upper bound at ~611 members conservatively: satoshi: 1 million, 2 guys 500k, 4 guys: 250k, 8 guys: 125k and so on.
I'm guessing it's around 300 people in that club max. Tendency: decreasing.
Nah, by the time quantum computers of needed complexity appear on the horizon encryption would be adjusted and coins in circulation would be easily protected. However, i don't know what happens to old (lost) coins? If they would still be retrievable, just imagine what a nice ever-growing bounty bitcoin would become, for the good of all mankind!
protip: only coins in an address which has never spent coins (thereby revealing its public key) can be irreversibly lost. The rest of the coins (those in addresses whose public keys have been revealed) will be trivially claimed by the first Quantum Computers.
Owner of such computer would give a shit about wether the keys are lost or not... he'd just go search for the privkeys of the highest-valued addresses regardless of wether or not someone else already knows that key.
Right, the highest-valued addresses which have already spent coins (revealed their pubkeys).
protip: only coins in an address which has never spent coins (thereby revealing its public key) can be irreversibly lost. The rest of the coins (those in addresses whose public keys have been revealed) will be trivially claimed by the first Quantum Computers.
Owner of such computer would give a shit about wether the keys are lost or not... he'd just go search for the privkeys of the highest-valued addresses regardless of wether or not someone else already knows that key.
Plot twist: Most of those addresses are part of one wallet.dat file.
...with private key irreversibly lost a year ago
proof?
protip: only coins in an address which has never spent coins (thereby revealing its public key) can be irreversibly lost. The rest of the coins (those in addresses whose public keys have been revealed) will be trivially claimed by the first Quantum Computers.
Assuming QC "suddenly" appears, and ECDSA is instantaneously crackable using Shor's algorithm, and SHA256/RIPEMD160 become vulnerable to Grover's algorithm:
- Every unspent coin, sent to an address whose pubkey is not yet revealed, is somewhat safe (80 bit security left, instead of 160 bit)
- The block chain is quite safe (128 bit security left, instead of 256 bit)
- Transactions to new quantum-computing-based addresses with corresponding keys, are safe
- ... only unspent coins sent to reused addresses will be trivially claimable by any attacker (a few bits of security left, instead of 128 bit)
I know someone with 5 times that amount and he haven't ever posted here.
So, 10,000 coins? Nice! What price did he buy at?If he has 10,000 invite him to the forums, he could be helping build the community, but something tells me this is kinda like, I know a guy, who knows a guy, who was in prison with a guy, who was married to a guy's sister LMAO
Plot twist: Most of those addresses are part of one wallet.dat file.
...with private key irreversibly lost a year ago
proof?
Now please describe in detail how you envision proof of something being irreversibly lost?
I know someone with 5 times that amount and he haven't ever posted here.
So, 10,000 coins? Nice! What price did he buy at? Plot twist: Most of those addresses are part of one wallet.dat file.
...with private key irreversibly lost a year ago
proof?
Plot twist: Most of those addresses are part of one wallet.dat file.
...with private key irreversibly lost a year ago
Plot twist: Most of those addresses are part of one wallet.dat file.
How many do you think are eligible for the club today? I would think it is far less than 5000 individuals, maybe closer to 500..
I don't think anyone is going to respond here saying "I'm in the club," especially since Bitcoiners value their privacy so much.
I would like to get there. It is harder for people at this point than it was for others already there.
i think that guy who runs memorydealers and bitcoinstore is in the list. and the mtgox guy.
Im pretty sure memorydealer's coins are mixed up with my coins from bitcoinica unless he had a lot more before that. I feel pretty bad for him, I believe he lost thousands of coins compared to my couple hundred. I'd take those coins back any day now....
I know someone with 5 times that amount and he haven't ever posted here.
Can there be a club if you have over 210?
I don't know if the str4wm4n club (or would that be strawman club?) would sound quite as cool. Although seeing as how it's a bit less exclusive maybe that's OK.
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How come Vladimir isn't in the Vladimir club?
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