The whole truth about the Merit system

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 18, 2018, 03:27:26 PM

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 02:35:26 PM

You give Merit to many random people. It would be foolish here to look for a cause-and-effect relationship.

There is a cause and effect relationship--all the posts I gave points to I liked and thus merited them. But I've only got a limited number of sMerits, so I have to ration them. And I usually only give them out for posts that are in really good English. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar all count in my book. Typos I can excuse, but some people just can't write. I don't merit posts that look like they were written sloppily.

Other people have different criteria, I'm sure. That's what's going to make this system work.

I completely agree with you, I like the course of your thoughts. The boundaries for obtaining Merit should be much wider than the "High Quality Post".
Since in the pursuit of Merit, we can see soon many pages of plagiarism.

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on February 18, 2018, 02:50:32 PM

@OP,you don't have to open a thread in Meta as I have reported the account with nice description with your links and they're likely to get perma-banned soon.Nice catch though.Most of his posts seem copy-pasted.

Thanks for help, it was very benevolent.

Deena

member

Activity: 238

Merit: 49

Quote from: actisstupidname on February 18, 2018, 12:58:00 PM

Meh, nothing will happen here. Move along, boys.

FYI: aTriz is Lauda and Shrinath is their cashcow for Moonlite.

Just as well archive this thread in case it gets deleted, Judster. http://archive.is/kEOyd

<--- Quality post

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3528

Merit: 7005

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Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 02:35:26 PM

You give Merit to many random people. It would be foolish here to look for a cause-and-effect relationship.

There is a cause and effect relationship--all the posts I gave points to I liked and thus merited them. But I've only got a limited number of sMerits, so I have to ration them. And I usually only give them out for posts that are in really good English. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar all count in my book. Typos I can excuse, but some people just can't write. I don't merit posts that look like they were written sloppily.

Other people have different criteria, I'm sure. That's what's going to make this system work.

endlasuresh

full member

Activity: 756

Merit: 103

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on February 18, 2018, 02:50:32 PM

Quote from: endlasuresh on February 18, 2018, 02:46:21 PM

I am still not yet getting how you got such DT Membership without any readership or experience in maintaining forums.
Please go on and read that thread, in any forums Plagiarized content is not allotted at all, but you speak false statement.

Are you retarded ? Do you even understand what he meant by this

Quote from: aTriz on February 18, 2018, 02:48:45 PM

Guess I remove him from the campaign. The reason why I merited him was because it was a good post and I can see why now.

He wouldn't be able to post after getting a ban anyway..

I am not retarded and follow forum rules, Ive been in several forums where people get membership levels based on experience.

Still in my whole life I haven't seen such a reputed member offering points for plagiarized content. BTW which country you belong?
Most people are looking for their own stomach, but one doesn't know whom they are offering or promoting in their own country.

The on poster who made good thing by showing how does they got so much reputation and trust here in forums.

Joel_Jantsen

legendary

Activity: 1988

Merit: 1317

Get your game girl

Quote from: endlasuresh on February 18, 2018, 02:46:21 PM

I am still not yet getting how you got such DT Membership without any readership or experience in maintaining forums.
Please go on and read that thread, in any forums Plagiarized content is not allotted at all, but you speak false statement.

Are you retarded ? Do you even understand what he meant by this

Quote from: aTriz on February 18, 2018, 02:48:45 PM

Guess I remove him from the campaign. The reason why I merited him was because it was a good post and I can see why now.

He wouldn't be able to post after getting a ban anyway..

aTriz

hero member

Activity: 1232

Merit: 683

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Guess I remove him from the campaign. The reason why I merited him was because it was a good post and I can see why now.

endlasuresh

full member

Activity: 756

Merit: 103

Quote from: Lauda on February 18, 2018, 02:00:13 PM

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

All here are smart people. All make the right conclusions.

Huh? I think you are confusing reality with fiction.

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

But in any case, plagiarism is a crime.
deceit = reputation

No. Plagiarism is permanently-bannable, thus a Meta issue.

Check this link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]

I am still not yet getting how you got such DT Membership without any readership or experience in maintaining forums.
Please go on and read that thread, in any forums Plagiarized content is not allotted at all, but you speak false statement.

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on February 18, 2018, 01:59:32 PM

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

All here are smart people.

That's not true by a long shot. Anyway, it doesn't surprise me that these posts not only got merit, but got it from two well-respected members here. I know I don't check every post I merit to see if it's a copy-paste. In fact I haven't checked a single one yet.

As stated, the issue isn't with the merits these scum suckers earned but with the plagiarism itself, and once that's caught the account that got the merit will be nuked anyway.

And I say props (big props) to the folks who are catching these nutsacks. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.

You give Merit to many random people. It would be foolish here to look for a cause-and-effect relationship.

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: Lauda on February 18, 2018, 02:00:13 PM

No. Plagiarism is permanently-bannable, thus a Meta issue.

OK. Now I'll know. Thank you.

I meet more good and intelligent people in my life than stupid and evil. Therefore, I think positively.

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

All here are smart people. All make the right conclusions.

Huh? I think you are confusing reality with fiction.

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

But in any case, plagiarism is a crime.
deceit = reputation

No. Plagiarism is permanently-bannable, thus a Meta issue.

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3528

Merit: 7005

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Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:50:48 PM

All here are smart people.

That's not true by a long shot. Anyway, it doesn't surprise me that these posts not only got merit, but got it from two well-respected members here. I know I don't check every post I merit to see if it's a copy-paste. In fact I haven't checked a single one yet.

As stated, the issue isn't with the merits these scum suckers earned but with the plagiarism itself, and once that's caught the account that got the merit will be nuked anyway.

And I say props (big props) to the folks who are catching these nutsacks. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: Lauda on February 18, 2018, 01:34:31 PM

So you are telling me that you blame the two users (aTriz and slowdeath) for unknowingly meriting (a plagiarized post) what they thought was a constructive post?

This is a Meta issue, not a Reputation one.

All here are smart people. All make the right conclusions. I just laid out the facts. I'm not a judge.
But in any case, plagiarism is a crime.
deceit = reputation

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

So you are telling me that you blame the two users (aTriz and slowdeath) for unknowingly meriting (a plagiarized post) what they thought was a constructive post?

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:25:13 PM

P.S. I hope I will not be burned at the stake like a witch. Since climbing into a hornet's nest is death.

Then you shouldn't run a witch hunt. In no way are slowdeath and aTriz at fault for someone else's plagiarism.

Quote from: Judster on February 18, 2018, 01:25:13 PM

You can see to whom exactly aTriz gave her Merit. There are no random people on this list. They are all her friends or write messages against her enemies.

This user seems very random. I did not know aTriz had enemies.

This is a Meta issue, not a Reputation one.

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: maeusi on February 18, 2018, 12:33:41 PM

There is no judgement on aTriz or other meriters, I think. But he and the other meriters have to be informed. It is also important for aTriz as campaign manager and the forum, to be informed about plagarizm.
To your main point. Single cases like your researched one are not representing the "truth about the Merit system". Only if you would find a majority of Merits/relevant numbers of Merits, given for plagarized posts, would confirm your conclusion.
But it shows, that managers, meriters and we all must pay higher attention to this problem.

You can see to whom exactly aTriz gave her Merit. There are no random people on this list. They are all her friends or write messages against her enemies. The casual person in this list is one. But this is not entirely accidental. He participates in her bounty and engaged in plagiarism. 50% is a good indicator of the uniqueness of the text. Unfortunately, they are not here.

P.S. I hope I will not be burned at the stake like a witch. Since climbing into a hornet's nest is death.

actisstupidname

jr. member

Activity: 67

Merit: 5

Meh, nothing will happen here. Move along, boys.

FYI: aTriz is Lauda and Shrinath is their cashcow for Moonlite.

Just as well archive this thread in case it gets deleted, Judster. http://archive.is/kEOyd

maeusi

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 254

There is no judgement on aTriz or other meriters, I think. But he and the other meriters have to be informed. It is also important for aTriz as campaign manager and the forum, to be informed about plagarizm.
To your main point. Single cases like your researched one are not representing the "truth about the Merit system". Only if you would find a majority of Merits/relevant numbers of Merits, given for plagarized posts, would confirm your conclusion.
But it shows, that managers, meriters and we all must pay higher attention to this problem.

Judster

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 19

Quote from: maeusi on February 18, 2018, 11:16:40 AM

Please put additional informations to your OP,
You mean:
- Shrinath, who is plagarizing.
- Moonlite signature: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moonlite-signature-campaign-members-2712518
- Campaign manager: ATriz
- Shrinath merited by: ATriz, Slow death, for plagarized content, right?
Maybe a more detailed headline for your thread would be good.

I'm not a prosecutor or a judge. Here you can often see accusations without court and investigation. I do not blame people, just point out the vulnerability of the Merit system itself. You want a "high quality post" here you get plagiarism. I think if you check most of the posts with merit, then this list will be larger.

And to accuse ATriz & his/her friends of prejudice is at once death on this forum.

maeusi

sr. member

Activity: 462

Merit: 254

Please put additional informations to your OP,
You mean:
- Shrinath, who is plagarizing.
- Moonlite signature: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moonlite-signature-campaign-members-2712518
- Campaign manager: aTriz
- Shrinath merited by: aTriz, Slow death, for plagarized content, right?
Maybe a more detailed headline for your thread would be good.

endlasuresh

full member

Activity: 756

Merit: 103

Quote from: jhenfelipe on February 18, 2018, 10:13:44 AM

Regardless of the merit given, I think the main concern here would be plagiarism. He uses it as if it's his own and it's considered as a crime, even outside the forum. I'm sure that the user will be banned once the mods saw this post, just like other accounts reported here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/report-plagiarism-copypaste-here-mods-please-give-temp-or-permban-as-needed-1926895

How does these guys become Hero members? do they dont have knowledge to merit it. i think Lauda will be Tagging soon all these accounts.

jhenfelipe

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 647

Regardless of the merit given, I think the main concern here would be plagiarism. He uses it as if it's his own and it's considered as a crime, even outside the forum. I'm sure that the user will be banned once the mods saw this post, just like other accounts reported here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/report-plagiarism-copypaste-here-mods-please-give-temp-or-permban-as-needed-1926895

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