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legendary
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January 08, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
#31
It seems like only people hating on XPY are Bitcoin supporters.
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Maybe you should research a bit more.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113249/altcoins-dropping-off-coin-swap-in-boycott-against-gaw-miners

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Litecoin, Dogecoin, Blackcoin and Neoscoin requested to be delisted from Coin-Swap. The move follows the recent announcement of Josh Garza's Paybase’s acquisition of the cryptocurrency exchange.

Also XPY was removed from ShapeShift.

How often do you see altcoin devs boycotting exchange or alt exchange boycotting coin? Wondered why?
hero member
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Crypto is King.
January 08, 2015, 03:18:02 PM
#30
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January 04, 2015, 12:03:02 AM
#29
I picked up .20 btc more at .011 figure I am already in at .04 for a bunch I may as well try and average down at .01 and hope it pops up
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 06:08:46 PM
#28
Don't pay attention to unusualfacts30. He/she is just repeating the script handed out on hashtalk - BTC bagholders, XPY haters yadayadayada. Being able to project their misery on someone else probably makes it easier for them to swallow all the other lies they've been fed.

There is no conspiracy against XPY among "Bitcoin supporters". There might be some dislike for shady companies and their dishonest arrogant asshole "leaders" though.
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 04:12:09 PM
#27
Yes. There is lots of blame being thrown around. The truth IMO:

Gaw brought down Paycoin all by itself. Gaw made promises they did not keep or intend to keep imo. The resulting dump by angry holders ensued.

You can't blame btctalk, reddit, twitter, or the man-in-the-moon for that.
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January 03, 2015, 03:45:17 AM
#26
It seems like only people hating on XPY are Bitcoin supporters. They're forgetting that interest in crypto/bitcoin is limited. Look at Bitcoin it's dying and it'll be dead very soon just like all the digital currency that came before it. If anyone thinks that public hasn't heard about bitcoin they're living in fairly land. In fact majority of population have heard/lost/invested in bitcoin and found out that it was nothing but a HUGE ponzi scheme.

People who have 10 BTC invested in XPY are the same ones who have 50 BTC in their wallet and both are related to each other. If they lose interest in crypto it'll also affect how they look at BTC. It's related to each other.

Honestly, You're making BTC look bad by making it a war between BTC and crypto.
What war? People are criticizing XPY because there is plenty to criticize.

Some are but majority is only criticizing it because if it succeeds it'll change how people look at crypto FOREVER. There is huge interest in XPY. 10,000 weekly orders. Someone mentioned somewhere that he is trying to take over btctalk and lot of bitcoin supporters don't want it to happen because it'll damage bitcoin in huge way. Think about all the traffic btctalk gets and if it goes to hashtalk then btctalk will be dead in few years.

It's not as simple as it looks. Go around the internet and look at comment section under all articles regarding XPY. Who the hell are those people? I have never seen so many people trying so hard to bring one crypto down. Obviously they aren't just some random people who're just trying to share their views. Nobody has that much time to go around and talk shit about a coin they aren't invested in. How many coins out there get that much hate? NONE. All of them are bitcoin supporters and only handful are sharing their views.





Okay lets break this down, (Kind of wish hashtalk is up so I could copy what I wrote there)

People are coming out in numbers because this is a coin created by a multimillion dollar company, of course it's getting more attention than any other coin, and yeah there are people in the crypto community who are concerned about XPY and GAW. Many of these people have a good reason, for instance the alleged threats of legal action against theymos, the purchasing of btc.com just to have it redirect to paybase, the purchasing of coinswap pissed many off especially when it was alleged that GAW ordered them to close half the markets, the $20 floor disappearing in seconds, the list goes on.

EDIT Oh look it's up again
(from this thread where dumbasses thought there was a war): https://hashtalk.org/topic/27499/this-is-a-concerted-attack-to-take-down-gaw-but-that-also-means-taking-down-gaw-investors-this-is-personal-fellas/82)

Honestly there is no coordinated attack.

Are there Pumps and Dumps? Yeah it happens with every single coin in existence.
Are people bashing the coin? Yeah, again this happens with everything else.
Are people bashing GAW and Josh? Yeah, again people have always done that.
Are people mad about XPY? Yeah, and many of them have a good reason because imo the launch of this coin was preceded by what can only be described as arrogance.

Did GAW purchase btc.com just to have it redirect to paybase? Yeah. it's a giant middle finger to bitcoin, and all the people who are searching for it too. They basically made it more difficult (which imo is a bad way of advertising considering this is more likely going to piss people off more than make them use the service)

Are there allegations that GAW ordered for coins to be delisted from coinswap? Yeah, and so far they have yet to be addressed. This alone could easily anger people because to many that looks like GAW is trying to eliminate any competitors by using their capital.

Was there a floor promised? Yeah, Josh went on record saying that it wouldn't fall below ten. Of course now we know this isn't the case , and many of the people who invested based on this claim have a right to be disappointed.

If a coin cannot sustain itself against criticism then it shouldn't be throwing stones.
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January 03, 2015, 03:37:30 AM
#25
It seems like only people hating on XPY are Bitcoin supporters. They're forgetting that interest in crypto/bitcoin is limited. Look at Bitcoin it's dying and it'll be dead very soon just like all the digital currency that came before it. If anyone thinks that public hasn't heard about bitcoin they're living in fairly land. In fact majority of population have heard/lost/invested in bitcoin and found out that it was nothing but a HUGE ponzi scheme.

People who have 10 BTC invested in XPY are the same ones who have 50 BTC in their wallet and both are related to each other. If they lose interest in crypto it'll also affect how they look at BTC. It's related to each other.

Honestly, You're making BTC look bad by making it a war between BTC and crypto.
What war? People are criticizing XPY because there is plenty to criticize.

Some are but majority is only criticizing it because if it succeeds it'll change how people look at crypto FOREVER. There is huge interest in XPY. 10,000 weekly orders. Someone mentioned somewhere that he is trying to take over btctalk and lot of bitcoin supporters don't want it to happen because it'll damage bitcoin in huge way. Think about all the traffic btctalk gets and if it goes to hashtalk then btctalk will be dead in few years.

It's not as simple as it looks. Go around the internet and look at comment section under all articles regarding XPY. Who the hell are those people? I have never seen so many people trying so hard to bring one crypto down. Obviously they aren't just some random people who're just trying to share their views. Nobody has that much time to go around and talk shit about a coin they aren't invested in. How many coins out there get that much hate? NONE. All of them are bitcoin supporters and only handful are sharing their views.



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January 03, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
#24
Is it $0.50 yet?  Everyone seems to be hitting on it hard.
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January 03, 2015, 03:25:24 AM
#23
It seems like only people hating on XPY are Bitcoin supporters. They're forgetting that interest in crypto/bitcoin is limited. Look at Bitcoin it's dying and it'll be dead very soon just like all the digital currency that came before it. If anyone thinks that public hasn't heard about bitcoin they're living in fairly land. In fact majority of population have heard/lost/invested in bitcoin and found out that it was nothing but a HUGE ponzi scheme.

People who have 10 BTC invested in XPY are the same ones who have 50 BTC in their wallet and both are related to each other. If they lose interest in crypto it'll also affect how they look at BTC. It's related to each other.

Honestly, You're making BTC look bad by making it a war between BTC and crypto.
What war? People are criticizing XPY because there is plenty to criticize.
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
#22
XPY is a shitbox and always was
hero member
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January 03, 2015, 03:20:20 AM
#21
It seems like only people hating on XPY are Bitcoin supporters. They're forgetting that interest in crypto/bitcoin is limited. Look at Bitcoin it's dying and it'll be dead very soon just like all the digital currency that came before it. If anyone thinks that public hasn't heard about bitcoin they're living in fairly land. In fact majority of population have heard/lost/invested in bitcoin and found out that it was nothing but a HUGE ponzi scheme.

People who have 10 BTC invested in XPY are the same ones who have 50 BTC in their wallet and both are related to each other. If they lose interest in crypto it'll also affect how they look at BTC. It's related to each other.

Honestly, You're making BTC look bad by making it a war between BTC and crypto.
legendary
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January 03, 2015, 03:12:00 AM
#20
NXT and SuperNET.

You know, if you're looking for a real future
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Crypto is King.
January 03, 2015, 02:30:35 AM
#19
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King of all the land
January 02, 2015, 08:31:07 PM
#18
Its not going to stay at $20. It will be lucky to stay at $2.

They are dreaming about it lasting generations, great bit of humor there Grin

Can you please let me know when its $2?  Thanks.

It's $5.31 now and at the rate it's dropping at I'd say it will be at $2 in another 4 days.

Lolololol

Goddamn crypto is hilarious.

I'd give it 2 more days.
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Bitcoin is the future
January 02, 2015, 08:28:43 PM
#17
Its not going to stay at $20. It will be lucky to stay at $2.

They are dreaming about it lasting generations, great bit of humor there Grin

Can you please let me know when its $2?  Thanks.

It's $5.31 now and at the rate it's dropping at I'd say it will be at $2 in another 4 days.
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Crypto is King.
January 02, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
#16
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December 28, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
#15
Its not going to stay at $20. It will be lucky to stay at $2.

They are dreaming about it lasting generations, great bit of humor there Grin

Can you please let me know when its $2?  Thanks.
legendary
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December 25, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
#14
Things aren't looking pretty for XPY on coinmarketcap today

newbie
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December 24, 2014, 04:12:29 PM
#13
This Josh fellow is clever: he's never actually promised the $20 per 1 Paycoin offer directly as far as I've been able to read.  Others have left off the lawyer words and run with it and GAW wasn't overly in a hurry to pull them back.  People love to think they'll get something for nought.  With this statement Josh erases any accusations of a scam in the legal sense.  He's more-or-less directly telling the world that the $20.00 bit will never happen.  The naive, etc. will keep pumping up his coin and GAW will summarily dump on the lot of them.  No illegalities as nothing was ever promised and any doubts re the lack of a promise were handled right there on their forum in that long post of his.


He doesn't want the customers to dump their coins so he can dump his first. Plain and simple. Josh is a criminal and hopefully will get his in the end.
A criminal has to commit a crime to be called that, i believe he hasn't done it yet.

They actually slipped and said Gaw will BUY BACK your XPY for $20 on Paybase.

They edited their post to say they will MANAGE your XPY for $20 on Paybase.

That was a huge red flag, I should have dumped then. But oh well I dumped just now. Still profit from mining.
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December 24, 2014, 04:08:28 PM
#12
This Josh fellow is clever: he's never actually promised the $20 per 1 Paycoin offer directly as far as I've been able to read.  Others have left off the lawyer words and run with it and GAW wasn't overly in a hurry to pull them back.  People love to think they'll get something for nought.  With this statement Josh erases any accusations of a scam in the legal sense.  He's more-or-less directly telling the world that the $20.00 bit will never happen.  The naive, etc. will keep pumping up his coin and GAW will summarily dump on the lot of them.  No illegalities as nothing was ever promised and any doubts re the lack of a promise were handled right there on their forum in that long post of his.


He doesn't want the customers to dump their coins so he can dump his first. Plain and simple. Josh is a criminal and hopefully will get his in the end.
A criminal has to commit a crime to be called that, i believe he hasn't done it yet.
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