Topic: TheCoins.net - Provably fair Minesweeper, Dice, Spin to Win! Unlimited faucet - page 7. (Read 14502 times)

I understand what you are saying, but it's a pretty bad precedent to set saying that someone shouldn't get money they won fairly just because they are bragging, or just because they won a lot.

I have no clue what happened in this particular incident, mind you, I'm just saying in general.  Money won fairly shouldn't be confiscated due to a site error.

once your balance is empty you can claim, there are no time limits

I actually somewhat agree with you, but by 'under these circumstances' I was also including Danila's pretty terrible behaviour here. He's already won 8btc for practically no effort or risk, and yet boasts about his 'method' and demands to be paid further for continuing to exploit this mistake in the site, with absolutely no regard for the wellbeing of the site and the other players using it.

I didn't knew this site was still alive, and now that is still alive I will ask again:
You never contacted me back to have the italian translation done.
Other sites, more stable(aka more time living on internet) got my request in a day and got the job done in like 2 days, but you guys, you guys prefer google translate to show to the world how good you are in managing more than english, uh?
You disappointed me guys, really.

Disagree.  If the situation is one where the player notices a way to play the game...in a way that was put out by the site...that is +ev, the site has the obligation to pay that player if/when he wins.  Obviously if the player does something to manipulate the site/odds/game, hack into the backend, or cheat in any way, then he shouldn't be paid anything.  But if the site makes a mistake, and a player observes it and exploits it simply by playing the game as the site intends, that can't be on the player.  He's just playing the game!

What puzzled me is that why they chose to go with this "unusual" algorithm to generate the number, when they can easily copy a working and tested one from the existing dice sites. Why use CRC32 rather than SHA256 or SHA512? Why add %1000 if they want to generate a number from 0 to 65535?

Also, after the problem being pointed out clearly, they don't care at all.

The site doesn't seem to be deliberately using any kind of cheat tactic, but as has been mentioned here before, the odds are inaccurate because the provably fair code only produces 1000 possible outcomes.

A few examples:

The chance of rolling one of the first 3 numbers - 76, 156, or 172 - is 3 in 1000. The payout is about x374.4. On average, if you bet 'under 172' (which on this site, actually includes 172), then you'll get 1123 satoshis back for every 1000 you gamble, a 11.2% positive edge for the player.

The chance of rolling under 32768 - the default, 50% chance value - is 507 in 1000. The payout is about x1.962, which means that on average, you'll get 994 satoshis back for every 1000 you gamble. This is still a house edge, but is actually less than intended.

However, in some other cases the house edge is greater. For example, the chance of rolling 76 or 156 is 2 in 1000 and the payout for under 156 is about x412.18. This means you'd average a return of 824 satoshi for every 1000 you gamble, a large house edge of 18%. Even worse, if you aim for under 75, then there's basically a 100% house edge.

In general, however, the majority of players are probably playing at better than advertised odds. I think that players should be refunded any losses where they can prove they've gambled at worse than advertised odds, but overall the site is more the victim here. It's hard to sympathise when they're taking so long to fix such a simple issue, though.

I personally enjoy the unlimited faucet idea, although I do THINK that the site is employing 999Dice's seed tactic.

I have neither checked nor will, but I usually don't lose 6 times in a row on my first try

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Yes i can, but only if you after go and play.


Yes, sure. But later - i need to work a little
I will send you in pm my account info. And every time i win i can do the printscreen, to more proof.

hi mate,

can you tell me how to win in this site?

have you made another accounts and try to play in small amount?

"Unlimited 500 satoshi free Bitcoin faucet!" - What does that mean? Faucet will give you 500 satoshis max and then shut down and recharge? It is 500 satoshis per 10 minutes, hour?

I receive 8 btc earlier, but not receive 17 btc now.


Pls read the topic one more time. There is many proofs.

seriously? you didnt receive 8btc on your winning? then they accussing you as hacker? what a site is this?
should we report this?
but you have proof about this?

u can send me that info, im always there anyways

And by the way, the are really many bugs there. But mostly - in "Spin to win". I play spin-to-will a little time, but see a lot of bugs.

And one more thing for proof my fair play - i will registred new account, and send it name to 3-4 members in pm. I will do printscreen to fix my start balance. Then i start to play. After i finished, i wiil post here about result, members can accept time when i start to play and start balance.

Especcially will glad to see here dicecoin.io support, to check my method. They are don`t pay too by they do it more honest. They do not lie and do not accuse without proof, they have done a beautiful combination, as a result of which the client himself offered them a discount.

And despite our conflict, I would be happy if they come for checking method. Which, by the way, works on their website, though less efficiently, maybe they are limits. But will allow to take every day a little.

The thing here is that a number of posters here have basically already told everyone the winning method. To repeat it - due to a flaw in the probabilities in the provably fair code, betting on certain numbers actually gives the player a positive edge. Assuming that Danila's method involves this, then I'd say it's not right to accuse him of hacking, but I'd also say the owner is justified in not paying out under these circumstances. What's important here is that the site is fixed promptly, before someone else - intentionally or accidentally - ends up taking advantage of the same issue.

To prove that I am not a hacker and anyone can win as much, I will give my method of playing 3 full members of the forum, absolutely free. In exchange, they will have to start playing strictly by the method, and after 48 hours show the result to community. Winnings will be completely at their disposal, but if someone decides to share them with me - I'll be happy.
All who wish to participate in the experiment - please write a personal message. Send us your Email and a few words why you need this method, and how you can use it. I reserve the right to choose these people based on personal considerations.

can you lower the dice bet minimum to 5 sats instead of ten please?

we want a screenshot of the pm