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Quote from: KingDice on October 10, 2016, 08:37:19 AM

Quote from: ndnh on October 03, 2016, 10:02:00 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.

'one of the most popular' is more appropriate. Taking number of bets, Satoshidice wins by 100 million, also a year older. Grin

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We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387,775 Bitcoin

Primedice. 1,855,748 Bitcoin

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We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

I agree. (among crowdfunded sites)

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All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

I am not sure what you mean by confirmed Huh

dicesites reflects the data dice owners make public.

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This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

I don't believe you do. but this doesn't really show anything.

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What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

How would they know Huh

my thoughts exactly Tongue

Number of bets means nothing. Any site could have 100 bots running betting 1 sat and get the most bets of all casinos pretty fast but total wagered would be tiny.

Most popular is fact based on wagered and I said it was of all crowdfunded sites, but you can read what you like as usual Wink

The stats can't really be faked though. Invest and you would know they are real because you could withdraw your profit at any time.

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Quote from: ndnh on October 03, 2016, 10:02:00 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.

'one of the most popular' is more appropriate. Taking number of bets, Satoshidice wins by 100 million, also a year older. Grin

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We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387,775 Bitcoin

Primedice. 1,855,748 Bitcoin

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We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

I agree. (among crowdfunded sites)

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All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

I am not sure what you mean by confirmed Huh

dicesites reflects the data dice owners make public.

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This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

I don't believe you do. but this doesn't really show anything.

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What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

How would they know Huh

my thoughts exactly Tongue

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it is kind of a strange thing to ask in my opinion because there are two scenarios

when i am looking for a gambling site like dice for example i don't look for their stats!
instead i pay the website a visit, make some bets using their faucet, see if i like the game/design/speed/auto bet options/faucet amount/ and many more things and i don't care if they say our stats is 1 billion trillion BTC or 1BTC.

on the other hand if i want to make an investment, then i look at these stats and in this case it would be important and the more important part is that they cannot fake it because they can't say we have 1 billion trillion BTC volume but investors are getting 0.0000001BTC

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Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

there are lot of dice sites , which telling us.......

1. look here are lots players.
2. they continousely betting
3.our wager a day is ......, have been xxx btc
4.our site have made xxxx btc since lauched.

do you believe it ？while no one but the site ownner tell you the data. and noone can check it exept site ownner.

and as an engineer , to make an account and bet automaticly is that simple.

so , do you believe the data of dice site？why?

I think depend on the website how is long in the business of gambling, if they were long time in the business of gambling i can be believe although there are not valid a proof of data. But for new website of gambling i am doubt about that.

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Quote from: RHavar on October 03, 2016, 02:44:45 PM

Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

so , do you believe the data of dice site？why?

Yeah, because a while ago there was the investor dice site called just-dice.com which had pretty incredible volumes (Anyone got a link to them? I couldn't find on archive.org), but we know for sure the site wasn't a ponzi because it actually returned all investor money. And unless Dooglus took a giant personal loss, this means that the profits were actually genuine. So from that we can infer there's actually a huge market that like to playing a game that makes excel seem like fun. Grin

I think the real question should be, why aren't dice sites even more popular? By far the most popular/reputable dice site is PrimeDice, which has only done ~31612 BTC of volume in the last month -- which is actually a bit less than my own ugly-ass non-dice site has managed.

My guess is probably: a) for legal reasons block many key markets b) their max-payout is too low for some mega-whales c) They don't take investors, and thus don't attract the gambling-investor circle-jerk that JD had

Blocking the major bitcoin markets from depositing certainly hasn't helped, but I think you nailed it with B. and C. It's important to understand how many of the big investment site whales are individuals who invested in the bankroll. My theory is that investment sites encourage investors to play cause the site's shared bankroll experiences volatility and investors want to try and make money back.

We've considered taking investments for quite some time but there's too much legal risk surrounding bankroll investment and it isn't provably fair. A lot of people think I've refused investment cause I don't want to share any of the profits but to be honest I think we'd make significantly more if we did, I just honestly enjoy sleeping at night and holding as many user coins as dooglus did would make incredibly nervous.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 06:38:23 AM

Quote from: lenyro on October 03, 2016, 06:19:11 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

You have to be careful trusting stats.
There have been a lot of sites faking stats in the past, even popular sites like Fortune Jack. A lot of small dice sites too.

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.
We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387 million Bitcoin
We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

We have lots of players, thousands have played. They do not bet continuously though.

Our players don't use bots or multi-accounts as often as you would see on other sites that might look busier because there's more bets happening.
Probably because we don't have a min bet of 1 satoshi and no faucet. Our players deposit and play with their own real money.

This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

As an engineer you will know that other sites can easily fake looking busy by having more people listed online in their chat.
Or they can have one person with 100 accounts claiming a free faucet and betting 1 satoshi at same time so the site looks like it has 100 players.
This doesn't fool any real gambler though.

"We have the most wagered out of all other sites" How much btc have wagered in your site?

I actually made a mistake in the post

I was going to write btc and also $ value and ended up saying million.

Anyway it's 387,775 Bitcoin wagered. As you can see on dicesites.com

Shouldn't primedice or satoshidice has most bitcoin wagered? More than one million there, btc, stat in your site is also very large, what is the total profit so far?

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Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

so , do you believe the data of dice site？why?

Yeah, because a while ago there was the investor dice site called just-dice.com which had pretty incredible volumes (Anyone got a link to them? I couldn't find on archive.org), but we know for sure the site wasn't a ponzi because it actually returned all investor money. And unless Dooglus took a giant personal loss, this means that the profits were actually genuine. So from that we can infer there's actually a huge market that like to playing a game that makes excel seem like fun. Grin

I think the real question should be, why aren't dice sites even more popular? By far the most popular/reputable dice site is PrimeDice, which has only done ~31612 BTC of volume in the last month -- which is actually a bit less than my own ugly-ass non-dice site has managed.

My guess is probably: a) for legal reasons block many key markets b) their max-payout is too low for some mega-whales c) They don't take investors, and thus don't attract the gambling-investor circle-jerk that JD had

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Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

You have to be careful trusting stats.
There have been a lot of sites faking stats in the past, even popular sites like Fortune Jack. A lot of small dice sites too.

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.
We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387,775 Bitcoin
We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

We have lots of players, thousands have played. They do not bet continuously though.

Our players don't use bots or multi-accounts as often as you would see on other sites that might look busier because there's more bets happening.
Probably because we don't have a min bet of 1 satoshi and no faucet. Our players deposit and play with their own real money.

This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

As an engineer you will know that other sites can easily fake looking busy by having more people listed online in their chat.
Or they can have one person with 100 accounts claiming a free faucet and betting 1 satoshi at same time so the site looks like it has 100 players.
This doesn't fool any real gambler though.

Unfortunately I can't open the link for this reason: ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH (dont' know what this means), but I think saying that "BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site" is a bold statement. What about Primedice? Or did you mean that BetKing.io is number one among crowdfunded dice sites? Maybe I'm missing something but I always thought that PrimeDice is the most popular dice site.

EDIT: As I think that popularity of a site reflects in its chat I've checked the chat on BetKing.io. There are barely a few posts per hour there, so I don't think we can call it most popular.

EDIT2: But overall the site looks great. If that's true (and I personally think it is ) TOTAL SITE PROFIT is 6764 BTC which means investors are more than happy. Great job guys! Keep it up!

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Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

1. look here are lots players.

Can easily be faked.

Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

2. they continousely betting

Can easily be automated.

Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

3.our wager a day is ......, have been xxx btc

Can be verified if the site address is revealed.

Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

4.our site have made xxxx btc since lauched.

Can be verified if the site address is revealed.

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We have over two years of data now, roughly 2.3 GB of data.

View the stats here.

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Between October 6, 2015 and October 4, 2016, Bitcoin and alt-coin casinos took in 1,394,574 BTC and profited 7,302.6 BTC.

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Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.

'one of the most popular' is more appropriate. Taking number of bets, Satoshidice wins by 100 million, also a year older. Grin

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We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387,775 Bitcoin

Primedice. 1,855,748 Bitcoin

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We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

I agree. (among crowdfunded sites)

Quote

All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

I am not sure what you mean by confirmed Huh

dicesites reflects the data dice owners make public.

Quote

This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

I don't believe you do. but this doesn't really show anything.

Quote

What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

How would they know Huh

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Quote from: Zadicar on October 03, 2016, 09:55:59 AM

Quote from: philiveyjr on October 03, 2016, 08:38:23 AM

Having looked at a lot of sites, I feel sites definitely fake stats whether they deny it or not. But the ones taking investments usually have bots running making smaller bets, and the big ones can be running bots or fake players betting any amount of btc. Psychologically, it does convince a non-gambler to take a shot as well, which is probably the desired effect.

I do think the same thing too which gambling dice sites do use these bots to make bets and looks the site to have many players which somehow a very effective thing or should able to convince new people to make bets . Well we really dont know if they display the exact stats or fake, doesnt matter at all.

I also think stats is not important to play on any dice sites and majority of the people don't care about this, some dice sites are very popular and have so many players there, for me the most important thing is that I never got cheated by the dice site and get paid instant there so that is enough for me.

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Quote from: philiveyjr on October 03, 2016, 08:38:23 AM

Having looked at a lot of sites, I feel sites definitely fake stats whether they deny it or not. But the ones taking investments usually have bots running making smaller bets, and the big ones can be running bots or fake players betting any amount of btc. Psychologically, it does convince a non-gambler to take a shot as well, which is probably the desired effect.

I do think the same thing too which gambling dice sites do use these bots to make bets and looks the site to have many players which somehow a very effective thing or should able to convince new people to make bets . Well we really dont know if they display the exact stats or fake, doesnt matter at all.

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Personally, i think every site fake stats... they will always have some bots running to bring "volume".

Quote from: Herbert2020 on October 03, 2016, 07:23:52 AM

who cares about these numbers!

agree, the most important thing should be positive feedback and provably fair games.

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Having looked at a lot of sites, I feel sites definitely fake stats whether they deny it or not. But the ones taking investments usually have bots running making smaller bets, and the big ones can be running bots or fake players betting any amount of btc. Psychologically, it does convince a non-gambler to take a shot as well, which is probably the desired effect.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on October 03, 2016, 07:23:52 AM

and for the rest who just want to play, they only care about the site to be fair and have the games they like, and maybe have a nice design, a fast bot, ... they certainly don't care about how much is wagered Cheesy

If you want to risk your money by playing on a site, you do want to get the idea that the site is trusted. Looking at how much other people have wagered and how long the site has been around - definitely can help for getting an idea about that. That's why I do think those statistics are important for (some) players.

My site https://dicesites.com is indeed all about those statistics. A lot of other review/overview sites just give good reviews to any casino that pays them nicely or has a good affiliate program. However my site shows only statistics and let the player decide which site is good and looks trustworthy for them.

On the subject of "faking stats", I obviously take that very serious. And for me, there has been 2 clear cases of "faking stats": FortuneJack and BetBTC.co dice (both 2 links link to more detials.) I might make a blog 1 time about those 2 sites faking stats (with more proof btw.)

It is possible that other sites fake stats too, but I try my best to figure that out. In a way I think crowdfunded casinos are less likely to fake bets, because they would be not only faking stats - but directly stealing from their investors (which is much worse so owner would need even worse ethics.)

PS: I will also update my site this month to be much better for players and have more sites

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Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

there are lot of dice sites , which telling us.......

1. look here are lots players.
2. they continousely betting
3.our wager a day is ......, have been xxx btc
4.our site have made xxxx btc since lauched.

do you believe it ？while no one but the site ownner tell you the data. and noone can check it exept site ownner.

and as an engineer , to make an account and bet automaticly is that simple.

so , do you believe the data of dice site？why?

Moneypot has correct stats and is not faking it

maybe this helps

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Quote from: girlbtc.com on October 03, 2016, 05:07:06 AM

there are lot of dice sites , which telling us.......

1. look here are lots players.
2. they continousely betting
3.our wager a day is ......, have been xxx btc
4.our site have made xxxx btc since lauched.

do you believe it ？while no one but the site ownner tell you the data. and noone can check it exept site ownner.

and as an engineer , to make an account and bet automaticly is that simple.

so , do you believe the data of dice site？why?

who cares about these numbers!
only if you want to invest in these sites for example, you need to know these numbers to see how well a site is doing and the total wagered is not important at all but the return and the profit is important in this case.

and for the rest who just want to play, they only care about the site to be fair and have the games they like, and maybe have a nice design, a fast bot, ... they certainly don't care about how much is wagered Cheesy

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Quote from: lenyro on October 03, 2016, 06:19:11 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

You have to be careful trusting stats.
There have been a lot of sites faking stats in the past, even popular sites like Fortune Jack. A lot of small dice sites too.

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.
We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387 million Bitcoin
We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

We have lots of players, thousands have played. They do not bet continuously though.

Our players don't use bots or multi-accounts as often as you would see on other sites that might look busier because there's more bets happening.
Probably because we don't have a min bet of 1 satoshi and no faucet. Our players deposit and play with their own real money.

This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

As an engineer you will know that other sites can easily fake looking busy by having more people listed online in their chat.
Or they can have one person with 100 accounts claiming a free faucet and betting 1 satoshi at same time so the site looks like it has 100 players.
This doesn't fool any real gambler though.

"We have the most wagered out of all other sites" How much btc have wagered in your site?

I actually made a mistake in the post

I was going to write btc and also $ value and ended up saying million.

Anyway it's 387,775 Bitcoin wagered. As you can see on dicesites.com

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Quote from: lenyro on October 03, 2016, 06:19:11 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on October 03, 2016, 05:20:43 AM

You have to be careful trusting stats.
There have been a lot of sites faking stats in the past, even popular sites like Fortune Jack. A lot of small dice sites too.

BetKing.io is the most popular and trusted crowdfunded dice site. That's a fact.
We have the most wagered out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 387 million Bitcoin
We have the most invested out of all other sites, more than most of them combined. 4839 Bitcoin.
We have the most profit our of all the other sites, more than most of them combined. 6764 Bitcoin.

All stats can be confirmed on 3rd party sites like https://dicesites.com/

We have lots of players, thousands have played. They do not bet continuously though.

Our players don't use bots or multi-accounts as often as you would see on other sites that might look busier because there's more bets happening.
Probably because we don't have a min bet of 1 satoshi and no faucet. Our players deposit and play with their own real money.

This shows too that I am not creating fake bot accounts and betting.

What makes it true is the crowdfunded model where if it was faked our investors would divest.

As an engineer you will know that other sites can easily fake looking busy by having more people listed online in their chat.
Or they can have one person with 100 accounts claiming a free faucet and betting 1 satoshi at same time so the site looks like it has 100 players.
This doesn't fool any real gambler though.

"We have the most wagered out of all other sites" How much btc have wagered in your site?

You should probably want to check on dicesites.com. Everything is clear on site, rather than you asking here better try to search on their third party site which give all the details. i do believe that betking.io have really huge bankroll as their statement because saw couple of big whale there that bet like 250btc and win it so it is really possible that they have a lot of wagered or even huge bankroll to pay a good amount on big whale

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