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May 01, 2024, 10:18:18 PM
#69
Most of us often have a greedy mentality, fear of missing out on opportunities when we win money, and regret when we lose.
They always want to win but when loses comes they becomes agresive not knowing that gambling is not a business to put hope in rather play and totally remove your mind from it.
Yes good mindset is essential and combined with gambling exposure as OP shared with would be beneficial. Well of course it depends on the tolerance of the player on which how much loss or how many losses can he tolerate before he truly stops gambling for the day. Because knowing that there is endless opportunities in gambling, that there's no reason to FOMO, that there is better bet next day will put you to a better pedestal to manage yourself in gambling. So you set the rules for yourself, and you follow it rigorously.
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May 01, 2024, 09:50:16 PM
#68
So the first check must be awareness, what are you all about, can you really handle gambling and not go out of your boundaries? Etc, these are personal challenges before one decides to start gambling.
That's right mate, don't engage in gambling if you cannot control yourself. This is the reason why gambling is for mentally mature adults. I know a neighbor who said he would never engage in any gambling besides sports bets, or live matches precisely. According to him, he might not be able to control his gambling exercise if he engages in other types of betting. Therefore gamblers always evaluate themselves to know their strength and weaknesses to avoid becoming hooked to gambling.
That kind of awareness is very rare, for the most part, people believe themselves to be capable of all kind of things, but when they actually try to test their expectations against the reality they find out they were wrong all along.

Most of the time this is not much of a problem, but there are instances in which this can be catastrophic, especially when it comes to money matters, so it is refreshing to see someone that actually can see their own weaknesses and take some preventive actions.
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April 26, 2024, 03:53:13 AM
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So the first check must be awareness, what are you all about, can you really handle gambling and not go out of your boundaries? Etc, these are personal challenges before one decides to start gambling.
That's right mate, don't engage in gambling if you cannot control yourself. This is the reason why gambling is for mentally mature adults. I know a neighbor who said he would never engage in any gambling besides sports bets, or live matches precisely. According to him, he might not be able to control his gambling exercise if he engages in other types of betting. Therefore gamblers always evaluate themselves to know their strength and weaknesses to avoid becoming hooked to gambling.
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April 26, 2024, 03:49:23 AM
#66
For business continuity, I guess you are right about that and I feel it is justified. If the odds were to be in favor of the players, do you think anyone will dare to launch a casino? Who ventures into a business you know you will lose? Besides, have you thought about what it means to win $50k with as little as $1? That is the risk the casinos are exposed to and with just few jackpots from the gamblers, the casino reserved funds will be massively depleted. Even though the odds is in favor of the casinos, people are still winning so our target should be to be among those winning.
If there's a casino without house edge, it means they will look into other ways to make money.

It could be additional deposit fees, high withdrawal fees, dormant account fees, fees to start gamble or any other ridiculous ways. In the end, casino will make money while most gamblers will loss, that's the fact that can't be accepted for gambling addicts lol.
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April 26, 2024, 03:34:30 AM
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Most of us often have a greedy mentality, fear of missing out on opportunities when we win money, and regret when we lose. If you keep going around in a cycle of gain and loss, the thing you lose the most may be your time. Think carefully is a good thing, but if you overthinking, you may not make a wise decision later.
I agree with you that most people have greediness mentality in gambling, and that is just the main reason why some people keep on repeating same mistake in gambling. They always want to win but when loses comes they becomes agresive not knowing that gambling is not a business to put hope in rather play and totally remove your mind from it. If winning come you accept in good Faith, if it doesn't also comes you relax. Not when wining comes most people thinks it's the right time to continue gambling  not knowing that the previous they won is just by luck.
Having a greedy mentality is a normal thing for human and will never gone. But we can hold our greediness so that will not gives us problem, especially when we playing gambling. But we must learn about how to control our greediness and self control will helps us to avoids our greediness becomes bigger. When we wins, our greediness will trying to becomes bigger and if we can control ourselves better, we will not follow our greedy because that can makes us in trouble. We will knows how to decides and will thinks clear that we must force our greedy not to becomes bigger so we can leave gambling easily. We can act normally when we wins and will not thinks to keeps playing gambling because wanting more wins but we will stops our gambling activity. We will thinks that stops playing gambling is the best thing that we can do to prevents our greediness posses us and makes us continue playing gambling.
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April 26, 2024, 12:07:50 AM
#64
Most of us often have a greedy mentality, fear of missing out on opportunities when we win money, and regret when we lose. If you keep going around in a cycle of gain and loss, the thing you lose the most may be your time. Think carefully is a good thing, but if you overthinking, you may not make a wise decision later.
I agree with you that most people have greediness mentality in gambling, and that is just the main reason why some people keep on repeating same mistake in gambling. They always want to win but when loses comes they becomes agresive not knowing that gambling is not a business to put hope in rather play and totally remove your mind from it. If winning come you accept in good Faith, if it doesn't also comes you relax. Not when wining comes most people thinks it's the right time to continue gambling  not knowing that the previous they won is just by luck.

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April 25, 2024, 11:03:30 PM
#63
The odds for any casino game are always in favour of the casino. This means that the more you gamble, the more the odds acts against you. Chances are that you will go out of the casino with less cash in your wallet than when you came in with when entered the casino.
For business continuity, I guess you are right about that and I feel it is justified. If the odds were to be in favor of the players, do you think anyone will dare to launch a casino? Who ventures into a business you know you will lose? Besides, have you thought about what it means to win $50k with as little as $1? That is the risk the casinos are exposed to and with just few jackpots from the gamblers, the casino reserved funds will be massively depleted. Even though the odds is in favor of the casinos, people are still winning so our target should be to be among those winning.
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April 25, 2024, 09:16:17 PM
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That's the craziest and saddest reality about gambling mate, I was once got a friend of mine who's really prioritize gambling on cockfighting instead of expenses for his family. Several times he had been earning a lot of money, but it turns out all of it was gone due to gambling activities. Those you mentioned were all associated with his situation right now, and until such time he was kicked out from the mortgaged house he had because he's out of debt.
Gambling abuse needs a serious rehabilitation for every person who drowned into it, many scenario tend to burst out without such control of themselves. They're screwed up in making false stories just to borrow money or even saying problems that doesn't actually happen in order to take loans just for gambling investment money.
This topic is an eye opener for everybody, what's most important is facing your weaknesses instead of denying the bad effects of gambling into our lives.
Once a person has reached that stage it is very difficult to help them, after all it is clear that he is prioritizing the source of his addiction over his loved ones, a decision that may cause his family to give their backs to them, since even if they still loved him, at the same time they will realize that a family cannot live out of love, and money is necessary to keep things running as they should.

And once this happens then there will be even less of an incentive for your friend to change their ways, as he would have lost everything already and he only has his addiction to look forward.
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April 23, 2024, 05:06:52 AM
#61
That's the craziest and saddest reality about gambling mate, I was once got a friend of mine who's really prioritize gambling on cockfighting instead of expenses for his family. Several times he had been earning a lot of money, but it turns out all of it was gone due to gambling activities. Those you mentioned were all associated with his situation right now, and until such time he was kicked out from the mortgaged house he had because he's out of debt.
Gambling abuse needs a serious rehabilitation for every person who drowned into it, many scenario tend to burst out without such control of themselves. They're screwed up in making false stories just to borrow money or even saying problems that doesn't actually happen in order to take loans just for gambling investment money.
This topic is an eye opener for everybody, what's most important is facing your weaknesses instead of denying the bad effects of gambling into our lives.
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April 23, 2024, 04:29:04 AM
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No. Well at least for me.

The gambling is something that has to do with countless things... let's start there, then, you don't start betting the moment you literally do it, that is the first mistake.

Since, first of all and regardless of religion , beliefs, being a good son, husband, father, and in general fulfilling your responsibilities is your first big bet.

Consequently, the first bet you make is with yourself, so, if you don't know yourself, or you have doubts, the other best thing you can do is pay for a consultation with a person who does coaching, or a psychologist, who will evaluate your mental abilities to understand if you can enjoy gambling without addictions.

Now, even if you feel good with the previous two, your results are never measured by a single value (+.-), it is the long term.

Say no more brother, what you wrote says it all, and this is why I like saying that gambling isn't for everyone, even though everyone can be a gambler, many people will be messed up in the end.

If one can't even trust himself how can they handle gambling? For such people gambling will become a psychological suffering, they won't be able to keep up with all the necessary disciplinarian acts of a responsible gambler.

So the first check must be awareness, what are you all about, can you really handle gambling and not go out of your boundaries? Etc, these are personal challenges before one decides to start gambling.
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April 23, 2024, 03:11:42 AM
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Your post is quite long, but it only repeats one idea, which is the gain and loss in a decision. Any problem, not just gambling, has two sides. You should think carefully before deciding, and once you have decided to choose one side, don't regret the other side.

Most of us often have a greedy mentality, fear of missing out on opportunities when we win money, and regret when we lose. If you keep going around in a cycle of gain and loss, the thing you lose the most may be your time. Think carefully is a good thing, but if you overthinking, you may not make a wise decision later.

Gain and loss are just temporary things, especially in gambling. You must know how to accept losing if you are unlucky that day, or accept the lucky money you win without being greedy when looking at other people's lucky. Just like that you can be at peace with your game.
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April 22, 2024, 07:34:16 AM
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As OP have already suggested, let me add to what he has talked about with the two things being involved with gambling, if you're being tempted to go for more in gambling and loose, you will be disappointed that you shouldn't have made that decision for doing more, but if it happens that you go against your own wish to gambler more and left, you may not forgive yourself because you're not being satisfies to the level of being contempt with the way you have gamble.
In as much as i will agree with you i will also want to add that self control is important at this point when you wish to gamble more because sometimes you need to apply this restraint and it's such that you actually don't need a third party to tell you that you should be because in all it's to your own benefit and not to the benefits of the third party so you don't have to wait to be advised when you know tht your funds is at risk if you fail to apply that self control and restraint of not responding to all the forms of urge you get to want to gamble even when it's going to be detrimental to your financial status.

Knowing that gambling is a game of luck with a less than 50% chances of you recording success all the time so it's usually very much better you just make sure to apply some technique that keeps you responsible gambling and aswell keep you at advantage to staying profitable.
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April 22, 2024, 05:56:42 AM
#57
Lol, it's funny but true, and it all starts from a single mistake that one makes in the initial stage when they don't walk away after either winning or losing, and that is where it all begins. Some gamblers might walk away in the middle because they may realize they are making a mistake by not walking away after losing each time, but some wouldn't understand and they would go to the end until they lose everything and then have no options left other than walking away.

It's understandable that being a gambler, it's not easy to quit when you have lost your money because it haunts you all the time when you are away from the casino in case you couldn't afford to lose the money, but even if you could afford to lose it, you still won't be able to forget about it easily, but when you win, at least then someone should walk away with the profits.
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April 20, 2024, 09:06:08 AM
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When someone puts in money into gambling, he should be prepared for two things because there are two things involved, it's either the money is lost or you get some extra more cash (depending on the odds you chose to bet on).
Moral of the story: you can always decide what to do next, as there are two alternatives available. It's always up to you to make your own decisions, therefore you have total responsability over your actions in gambling, not being possible to blame others for your own mistakes, in case the outcomes of your decisions don't result on what you initially desired. These 'two things' which are always involved on this activity, characterizes the nature of gambling games, and corroborate with the idea they are random, unpredictable and risky.

For that reason, you should be careful when choosing if you should go through the path of 'one thing' or through the path of the 'another thing', as exemplified on your long initial post full of practical situations. Although redundant, I guess it gives a good notion of how gamblers should be more responsible and conscious that every acts bear consequences, and these consequences can't be delegated to external forces of the fate, which are supposedly out of their control.
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April 20, 2024, 07:06:46 AM
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The whole wall is either if A happens, then blah blah. If A happens, then you do B, blah blah. Kind of contradicting since you can just combine them into one imo.

Anyway in my case I'd much rather ignore the money aspect side of things when gambling. Yes it's there, and I notice it, but regardless I try to stop myself from thinking of it as "money", but instead rather my available tries, which is limited (which is the most important part). Think of it like the coins you get to play on arcades. Makes things more enjoyable, fun, and controlled. Enjoyable and fun since I don't need to mind myself trying to return the money, and controlled since the "coins" I have when I start playing is the limit I set for myself, simple as that.
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April 20, 2024, 06:33:20 AM
#54
When someone puts in money into gambling, he should be prepared for two things because there are two things involved, it's either the money is lost or you get some extra more cash (depending on the odds you chose to bet on). and when you eventually win and get an extra cash, two things are still involved.
it's either you walk away with your profit or you decide to try again with the hopes of making more money because you believe today might just be your lucky day.

 If you chose to walk away, then you're on the safer side, and if you choose to go again, there are still two things involved. It's either you win again or you lose your profit as well as what you won earlier.

If you win again and walk away, then you're safe, but if you lose the bet, there are still two things involved. It's either you decide to cut your losses and walk away or you decide put in another money to try again and see if you can manage to recover what you've just lost.

If you walk away, then you're safe but if you decide to put in more money and try again, there are two things involved. It's either you get lucky and win back your money or you lose the bet and throw away more money while trying to make a recovery.

 If you win back your money, then you're safe, but if you lose, there are two things involved. It's either you accept you've been defeated and walk away with whatever you're left with in your account/bankroll or you decide to chase your loss by doubling your usual stake so you can win and recover the ones you've lost with just one single bet and then retire for the day.

If you accept defeat and walk away, then you're safe, but if you say NO and decide to go in harder, there are still two things involved. It's either you get lucky, win and manage to recover your losses and then run away or you lose the bet once more and lose more than you planned to lose that day.

If you win the bet and run away, then you're safe but if you lose again, there are still two things involved. It's either you finally realize that the whole loss chasing is pointless and will only lead to more losses or you become more desperate and frustrated and then decide to go again, this time with a much higher stake or even decide to go all in with everything you've got to make the final kill.

If you realize yourself and walk away while you can, then you're safe but if you decide to go in with a much higher stake or all in. There are two things involved still. It's either you suddenly become the luckiest man on earth by winning the bet and running for your dear life orrrrrrr you become unfortunate and lose all your money and your frustration multiplies by 10 with an addition of confusion.

If you win and run away, then you're safe but if you lose, there are still two things involved. It's either you pull your sorry ass together and give up full of regret or you decide not to give up and decide to take a loan ( for someone who can easily access a loan).

If you give up, then you're safer because with time you'll recover from your losses, but if you decide to take a loan, there are two things involved. It's either God decides to save your sorry ass and allow you to win the bet (because at this point, only God can save you) or you lose the loan money completely and then this is the point you realize what you've done to yourself and then go back home and work your ass off to repay the loan and pick up the remaining pieces of your broken life.

This is exactly what happens to gamblers who refuse to gamble responsibly but decide to chase their losses. I hope you all learned a thing or two from this little rollercoaster ride.

Although it's quite funny the way you wrote the post, it's quite true, which ever decision you make creates a while new possibilities for another two decision again which is kind of funny.

You might also try changing the way you wrote this post cause to sincere, if I wasn't tasked to work, I wouldn't consider reading this post to the end. Next time you could summarise the whole context instead of making It so continuous.
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April 20, 2024, 06:19:11 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
Yes, that's how it should be when using gambling. If we could use gambling as entertainment and nothing more, we would not be lost like people because we could use gambling well. Using strict limits can help us not to exceed the limits in gambling. We can also enjoy gambling as entertainment and will not use too much money.

We can avoid gambling if we don't have much time or money. This is a choice to be able to use gambling well and not become addicted to gambling. By always remembering that gambling is entertainment, we will not be too insistent on gambling more often.

We also won't be tempted to gamble too often because that could have bad consequences. Our finances will be disrupted and we will not be able to meet our daily living needs. We can also experience gambling addiction.
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April 20, 2024, 05:59:37 AM
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This is exactly what happens to gamblers who refuse to gamble responsibly but decide to chase their losses. I hope you all learned a thing or two from this little rollercoaster ride.
A very funny ride with lots of hidden truths in it, my question remains why would someone go through all these stresses just because of indiscipline. All these factors of consideration in your post spans from the fact that the gambler is very much poorly disciplined from the onset and have engaged poorly in gambling, thereby leaving him vulnerable to more damages. When you gamble with a budget and stake what you can afford to loose, you avoid most of the steps in this rollercoaster because the truth is that when you're under the pressure of recovery, you hardly make rational decisions because you are emotionally unstable with the realities of your lost funds and the fiction of possible recovery with more engagement. Addiction wrecks people and puts them in a sorry situation and you can curb all these from the onset by having a gambling budget and staking only what you can afford to loose.
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April 20, 2024, 05:55:51 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
That's how it should be. Set limit on how much to spend and stick to it. Don't go beyond that, otherwise you'll experience the consequence of not controlling yourself. Greed is also one of the factor on why some gamblers (who became fortunate to win a decent) still end up losing it all. It's because of their greed for wanting more thinking the result will be the same again.

Thus, it's better to play just for fun and not to profit as main desire. Because if the latter is the reason why you keep on playing, you'll just pressure yourself while not noticing you already go beyond your limit on how much money you can only afford to spend.
Setting limits on your money is the best way to gamble and live in general. Its just the truth. Just think about it: you decide what the rules are and how things will go. Dont worry about getting things done; just enjoy yourself. A clear head means better decisions. And its not even about luck. You have to know the game inside and out and know when to play your hand and when to fold.

Everything is ruined by greed. Trust me, that voice has made even the smartest people lose it. All of a sudden, they start losing. If you want to get rich while gaming, you're doing it all wrong. This is important: pay attention to the event.  Anyone can bet, but are you being smart? Thats a form of art.

Yup! that's right, setting limit while doing gambling will help you a lot not to lose more and to maintain your gambling activity in a moderate mode because we have a limit or boundaries that we follow. We need to be more responsible because sometimes even if we already have a limit, there are times that we bet beyond our budgeted money because we want to gain more or we don't want to lose the opportunity but in the end, we will lose more because of greed.

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April 20, 2024, 05:31:44 AM
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In my opinion, the key to enjoying gambling is to see it as a form of entertainment rather than a way to make money. By setting strict limits on how much you’re willing to lose and sticking to those limits, you can enjoy the thrills without putting yourself at risk of major financial setbacks. Enjoying the wins when they come, but not letting the losses drag you down.
That's how it should be. Set limit on how much to spend and stick to it. Don't go beyond that, otherwise you'll experience the consequence of not controlling yourself. Greed is also one of the factor on why some gamblers (who became fortunate to win a decent) still end up losing it all. It's because of their greed for wanting more thinking the result will be the same again.

Thus, it's better to play just for fun and not to profit as main desire. Because if the latter is the reason why you keep on playing, you'll just pressure yourself while not noticing you already go beyond your limit on how much money you can only afford to spend.
Setting limits on your money is the best way to gamble and live in general. Its just the truth. Just think about it: you decide what the rules are and how things will go. Dont worry about getting things done; just enjoy yourself. A clear head means better decisions. And its not even about luck. You have to know the game inside and out and know when to play your hand and when to fold.

Everything is ruined by greed. Trust me, that voice has made even the smartest people lose it. All of a sudden, they start losing. If you want to get rich while gaming, you're doing it all wrong. This is important: pay attention to the event.  Anyone can bet, but are you being smart? Thats a form of art.
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