Mark Karpeles: So, what are you in for?
Prisoner 2: I ripped off a bunch of folks to the tune of millions of dollars. And you?
MK: I simply uploaded a video on YouTube on how to make an apple pie from scratch with my fellow roommate in France.
Prisoner 3: YouTuber, eh?
Then all the other prisons starting setting very, very close to Mark Karpeles until he said, "And spreading PHP." Then, they all backed away to get as far away from him as they possibly could in the small jail cell.
Topic: There is no "bail" in Japan (Read 1623 times)
Why there is no bail in that country?
Well in India, there is something called settlement and if you can afford that , the indian police will take care of the rest, thats all I know 
All the thing they do to the people who commit felonies are good. Because they serve as an example for all the other people in Japan. That is why the crime rate is low, every body is happy and is doing his business. This is a good way how the legal systems should work 
Even taking into account peoples' personal feelings about what Karpeles "deserves" I don't think such an obviously corrupt system is something to be celebrated. I was under the impression that part of the value of Bitcoin is the ability to bypass corrupt governments and institutions, so why would you rejoice at their existence?
So, you thought Bitcoin is for scamming people without consequences?MK scammed people. People want justice. Who else than governmental institution should bring it to him? Do you want a vigilante group to hang him on the next tree?
before i posted my reply i searched the net if there really is no bail in Japan and it says Bail is unheard of in Japan
heres what you can do when arrested in Japan
http://www.jistec.or.jp/Fellow/AH/Hotline0808_e.html
heres what you can do when arrested in Japan
http://www.jistec.or.jp/Fellow/AH/Hotline0808_e.html
He's going to get what he deserves there and then he'll be extradited to USA to face more charges. It's now game over for him and all his hidden btc.
Many countries does not implement a "bail system". Actually I think this is very specific for USA.
In USA then can you be balied if you have enough money.
Guilty untill rich.
For all the justice systems, the US was always the most funny one.
I mean no disrespect to my fellow US bitcoiners.
In USA then can you be balied if you have enough money.
Guilty untill rich.
For all the justice systems, the US was always the most funny one.
I mean no disrespect to my fellow US bitcoiners.
Correct. There's only a handful of countries where one can pay a bail to get out of jail. In most countries, prisoners are just waiting for their trial behind bars, and that can last years in some places. At least the time spent waiting in prison is subtracted from the final penalty.
Even taking into account peoples' personal feelings about what Karpeles "deserves" I don't think such an obviously corrupt system is something to be celebrated. I was under the impression that part of the value of Bitcoin is the ability to bypass corrupt governments and institutions, so why would you rejoice at their existence?
So, you thought Bitcoin is for scamming people without consequences?
i'm not getting all this different feedback, is there bail or not in japan after all 
Do not ever be a criminal or get into it in Japan, cos you'll always be guilty until proven innocent. 
An idiot friend of mine experienced the Japanese justice system. Some clown in a bar threw beer on the girl he was with and since the common Western reaction to something like this is an immediate fight he decided to brawl with the clown and all his friends. The police showed up and arrested just him since anybody who throws the first punch in Japan is guilty and he got the standard 72 hr hold where if you don't confess they hold you for another 20 days.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
So what you're saying is that he just needs to liquidate some of hs 400k+ btc and he can skip right out the front door? Sounds about right for most justice systems in the modern world:D
This is how the 'actual justice' works in almost the world... but we should wait and see what it happen with karpeles (or karpél
).PS: Take a look at the italian service ( TG5 - mediaset) - http://www.video.mediaset.it/video/tg5/servizio/553717/arrestato-il-re-dei-bitcoin.html [Arrestato il re dei bitcoin - Arrested the king of bitcoin]
Wow what a conviction rate
Not too hard when you take so long to arrest someone.. They probably make absolutely sure someone is guilty.
An idiot friend of mine experienced the Japanese justice system. Some clown in a bar threw beer on the girl he was with and since the common Western reaction to something like this is an immediate fight he decided to brawl with the clown and all his friends. The police showed up and arrested just him since anybody who throws the first punch in Japan is guilty and he got the standard 72 hr hold where if you don't confess they hold you for another 20 days.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
So what you're saying is that he just needs to liquidate some of hs 400k+ btc and he can skip right out the front door? Sounds about right for most justice systems in the modern world:D
Even taking into account peoples' personal feelings about what Karpeles "deserves" I don't think such an obviously corrupt system is something to be celebrated. I was under the impression that part of the value of Bitcoin is the ability to bypass corrupt governments and institutions, so why would you rejoice at their existence?
So, you thought Bitcoin is for scamming people without consequences?I am (not) sorry, that you got disappointed.
Whole day i'm reading about how Japan has harsh justice system, and how Mark is going to get what he deserves, and now you're telling me that
it's probable that he will just pay the fine and walk away; this is not what we wanted to hear, not in this case anyway.. I sure hope you are wrong, and he serves serious time.
cheers
It looks like he's foolishly holding out for a lawyer http://newslines.org/mt-gox/arrested-17/ so likely getting the full nasty interrogation treatment plus whatever they planned on fining him will exponentially grow considering Japanese defense lawyers are in cahoots with the prosecution to extract as much money as possible. The lawyer will find out exactly how much assets he has and that will be the fine the court implements so at least he will be broke, and living in Japan in public disgrace.
Many countries does not implement a "bail system". Actually I think this is very specific for USA.
In USA then can you be balied if you have enough money.
Guilty untill rich.
For all the justice systems, the US was always the most funny one.
I mean no disrespect to my fellow US bitcoiners.
In USA then can you be balied if you have enough money.
Guilty untill rich.
For all the justice systems, the US was always the most funny one.
I mean no disrespect to my fellow US bitcoiners.
An idiot friend of mine experienced the Japanese justice system. Some clown in a bar threw beer on the girl he was with and since the common Western reaction to something like this is an immediate fight he decided to brawl with the clown and all his friends. The police showed up and arrested just him since anybody who throws the first punch in Japan is guilty and he got the standard 72 hr hold where if you don't confess they hold you for another 20 days.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
Whole day i'm reading about how Japan has harsh justice system, and how Mark is going to get what he deserves, and now you're telling me that
it's probable that he will just pay the fine and walk away; this is not what we wanted to hear, not in this case anyway.. I sure hope you are wrong, and he serves serious time.
cheers
An idiot friend of mine experienced the Japanese justice system. Some clown in a bar threw beer on the girl he was with and since the common Western reaction to something like this is an immediate fight he decided to brawl with the clown and all his friends. The police showed up and arrested just him since anybody who throws the first punch in Japan is guilty and he got the standard 72 hr hold where if you don't confess they hold you for another 20 days.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
He decided to confess immediately, paid $800 USD and walked out the door. He was in a bullpen with a dozen other arrested drunks and train gropers who all bribed their way out immediately as well. There's no "bail", but for almost every single crime except murder you can just pay your way to freedom which Karpales can do easily though his fine will be a lot bigger than $800.
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