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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

If the government can put an end to online gambling, then we have to go back to offline gambling. I don’t know why the government has to ban gambling, it doesn’t make any sense to me. I know gambling shouldn’t be taken as a source of income, but some people are gambling and they are surviving with the money they are winning from gambling, like in my country, most youth are now gambling just to make money for survival, if you stop gambling, how do you expect people like that to survive, and the government is not creating more jobs for the youth that are unemployed.

Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

I don’t have any problem if the government ban gambling in my country, am not the type that gamble for the sake of money, I just gamble for fun, so if they can ban gambling, I will just have to look for something else to always make me happy.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

The gamblers in your country are they paid for gambling as a form of employment or empowerment? It is only when a people's source of income (jobs) are put to an end that it could lead to most of them dieing out of overthinking and other health complications out of a loss of hope but this doesn't make sense with gambling cause gambling is not a means livelihood. So it's either that young man you overheard complaining is a jobless gambling addict or he is just out of him mind.

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they aren't payed or employed neither empowerd but they see it as a source of earning daily with a little amount, but i don't think the young man was jobless maybe his source of income is not enough for him due to his responsibilities he have, so with my understanding here is that his so much addicted to gambling that he can't stand it if they really put an end to gamling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount.

Truth is that some people that gamble do assume that they make much profit from gambling than they are losing to it but it's just a fallacy and I have always disputed it. Gamblers incur a lot of loss before hitting a win and most times before they get another win they could have experienced losses double the amount the last won. Yea, maybe some person do make a profit (mainly the very minute few that hits a jackpot) but this number of persons are just about a 3% of the total number of gamblers found in a society. The profit is always with the house due to its hedge.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

It is my first time hearing that if the government puts an end to online gambling, people will suffer in some countries. I fully go against that, that people will suffer. the truth that many people thing about that doesn't know is that people lose money in gambling than what they are gaining and what is there again is that the percentage of people losing in gambling is far greater than people winning.

In fact, gambling is what is causing a lot of youth to be lazy nowadays. Many youth have the opportunity to learn some alternative work and hustle hard, but due to the hope they have from the gaming side that they will win, the small amount of money they have will just waste it there.

And this one that you are talking about, using $200 to win $100,000, is not that easy; it is very hard to win such a thing. If it is like that, winning in gambling is possible, and many gamblers will be rich.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

how on earth did you have to agree with them that gambling is a way to curb the drastic state of the country's economy? Do you really think them casinos are out there to fund your pockets and leave theirs? Is gambling more like a self-enrichment project to you? Y'all need to be careful how you interpret things sometimes.

Quote from: alastantiger on May 11, 2024, 03:35:12 PM

A country banning gambling is not even the problem. What if the country goes ahead to write to the casino that they should not service their region anymore, in this case even a VPN will be useless.

you can access any casino with the TOR onion browser or any strong VPN

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

What does he mean by saying that many people will die of hunger? Does it mean that a lot of people in your country are surviving by gambling? In a country where the economic system is bad, gambling is not the solution to such a problem because it will even cause the gambler to lose the money they have.

Although every gambler has their own experiences and stories regarding their gambling lifestyle but I don't totally agree that the man was telling the truth that he actually stakes $200 and wins $100k daily. It is difficult to believe such lies. If he actually wins such an amount daily, then he would have opened his own casino or probably not be bothered if the government wants to ban gambling because he is supposed to have had enough savings.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 11, 2024, 11:41:02 AM

There are many online gambling sites nowadays so even though that countries that they banned gambling still the residences or the people can access the gambling sites as long as they have a good internet connection.

A country banning gambling is not even the problem. What if the country goes ahead to write to the casino that they should not service their region anymore, in this case even a VPN will be useless. A similar scenario is if the casino on their own decides not to render their services to that region again, also, a VPN will still be useless even with a good connection.

Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on May 11, 2024, 02:28:39 PM

Gambling is just spoiling life so if there is no online gambling then most of the individuals will sustain a better life and will be involved in a better job. Only gamblers think that if there is no gambling then their way of earning will be stopped and they will die due to hunger but this is just a thought.

Gambling is only spoiling the life of only those people who gamble irresponsibly. It is the same thing with those who drink irresponsibly too. It has always been said that we should gamble responsibly and stick to the rules that have been set aside for it.

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I assume that without gambling people will start to live a healthy life which they cannot maintain due to gambling because the loss is higher and winning is minimum so I think it will be a good step if people start to be a part of regular jobs instead of gambling.

Only gambling addict that this is addressed to. A human who has been able to find a balance between gambling, their Worklife, family life. and other areas of their life will not even talk about healthy living because they are already doing it.

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 11, 2024, 07:42:14 AM

Gambling is just one of many source of entertainment. You can go traveling, drink on the bar, and activities that you can enjoy in exchange for your money. The existence of online casino makes gambling accessible to anyone in any part of the world as long as you have an internet connection.

There’s a lot of casino that offers decentralized games which doesn’t need you to provide KYC so even if your government ban gambling you can still play online using the decentralized casino.

This is the perks of living on digital world which everything is accessible already.

But, the OP is talking about gambling as a source of income, that there are people who rely on it to live. Not just the player but there are also those who work in a casino. I agree on the guy who said that many will suffer once gambling is ended by their government.

I just hope that the government will also look at it or on the consequences that their actions can bring. Maybe instead of banning it, they will only released a program instead, to help those who are badly suffering with it? I think decentralized casinos wouldn't be possible if without the help of cryptos but there will still be centralized illegal gambling. I won't advice to take a risk and continue accessing them though because our situations can only get worse once we get caught or scammed.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 11, 2024, 01:56:08 PM

They meaning my local government? I don't really care what they do but there's going to be a lot of underground places popping up if that happens. How are they going to block online casinos that use cryptocurrencies? How are they going to stop me from using VPN or simply leaving the country for a while. It's maybe 2 hours of driving and I'm in another country...
I can also stoip gambling. I'm not addicted and this would actually be fine in the long run as I usually don't win big but also don't lose a lot of money, so I'd have more time to do other things.

It seems unlikely that what they want to do will happen because the rest of the casinos or gambling sites are scattered, just like you said, no matter what plan they plan to do, there are many ways for the person to return to gambling, such as using a VPN , that will be the main thing that will happen because not everyone can afford to leave the country just to gamble. Just continue your momentum in gambling without becoming addicted to it because you will enjoy playing without feeling pressure because you are not like others whose goal is to win or recover all the money they lost.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

I don't intend to judge or make assumptions about the OP personally, yeah maybe it's because of her ignorance. It's true, legal gambling in a country is enough to provide big taxes for the country, but it's not like the opinion you heard in the conversation you conveyed in this thread. you can refer to several countries that prohibit gambling, and those countries are not like the ones we are discussing in this thread.

Second point, with a bankroll of $200 one can double it even more than what you say. yeah, it all depends on the gamble and luck. but it is important for you to know, not everyone is as lucky as to win every day. if someone claims so, he is most likely a liar. whatever the gambling, it is not that easy to double it as easily as you say. just imagine, what about the casino. If there are several hundred people in a country in one casino who win every day like you said, don't you think that the casino will have problems. in fact, it ends up going bankrupt without the government having to end it. The point is, this discussion is not relevant to me personally.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

Maybe you are from a third-world nation where there is a high rate of unemployment which has made people see gambling as a major source of income. I have also heard people say that it was gambling that is sustaining many people in my country. Except there is research that backs this claim, I don't think it is correct. More people are losing than those who are winning. Gambling companies are racking in big profits while gamblers are just winning a small percentage of the profit.

Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

Before even thinking of winning you need to earn money to gamble. If you don't have a job, you might end up engaging in crime to gamble. Anybody who sees gambling as a full-time job will suffer from lack and want because wins from betting are unstable and unpredictable. If the government stops online betting, one would have to switch to physical gambling. Although it will be difficult to switch we would still have to gamble.

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Gambling is just spoiling life so if there is no online gambling then most of the individuals will sustain a better life and will be involved in a better job. Only gamblers think that if there is no gambling then their way of earning will be stopped and they will die due to hunger but this is just a thought.

I assume that without gambling people will start to live a healthy life which they cannot maintain due to gambling because the loss is higher and winning is minimum so I think it will be a good step if people start to be a part of regular jobs instead of gambling.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

Gambling (in the first place) was never meant to taken as a source of income, so why should putting an end to it be a problem to anyone except if it's about those who are addicted to gambling and how they can manage to cope or adjust when they can't be able to gamble no more.
If it's about making money and livelihood, I would say that is and was never meant to be taken as a source of income, so, who ever is depending on gambling a means of livelihood is supposed to go out there and get a job for him or herself and only gamble as a hobby, this way, you are never afraid of will happen if gambling is put to an end.

And on the other hand, @op, you only talked about online gambling. If online gambling is completely banned, offline gambling will still exist and I believe online gamblers will easily switch to gambling physically.
But again, all this are vain imagination, as long as the internet continue to exist, gambling, both online and offline will continue to exist.

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They meaning my local government? I don't really care what they do but there's going to be a lot of underground places popping up if that happens. How are they going to block online casinos that use cryptocurrencies? How are they going to stop me from using VPN or simply leaving the country for a while. It's maybe 2 hours of driving and I'm in another country...
I can also stoip gambling. I'm not addicted and this would actually be fine in the long run as I usually don't win big but also don't lose a lot of money, so I'd have more time to do other things.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

For me I think the effect would only lessen the gambler, I think those are just crazy talks from ignorant people, if they really are gambler with such skills why would they still be riding instead of riding their own car if it is so easy for them to earn that amount daily?
And people dying from hunger because they couldn't gamble? who in their right mind would gamble when they couldn't even afford to provide food on their table?
It is true that there are people who benefits from online gambling but for me most of those who benefits are those who works on online gambling industry not the gamblers.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 11, 2024, 01:57:04 AM

Dear op you have to know that the situation in one country with gambling cannot be generalized. Gambling is not a source of livelihood. The conversation you overheard in my estimation is from people who are ignorant about the world of work. It is only a lazy person that would say that if gambling is disbanded in a country people would die.

There are more people who are working than those who Gamble. There are more people who make money through other means than there are those who make money from gambling. The number of people who make money through gambling are so little than the ones who lose money through gambling. Assuming online gambling is banned in a country, there are still over a thousand and one way to make money. Besides anyone who has the mindset which is in your text is a gambling addict.

you know their are set of people who feed their families with gambling? This same person is not doubting that his not among of the people who feed their families with gambling, he said without gambling his family won't eat that means he's addicted to it. Maybe his not lazy he might be working but his salary can't help out with his responsibility that he have at hand. So I don't blame him crying out, i know it's very difficult for casino gambling to end it something someone should even dream of at the moment. Thanks for your response.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

That with $200 he can stake and win about $100000 daily something that you won't even struggle to get, they can't even pay someone at work monthly up to that amount. So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

Gambling should not be viewed as a viable career path. The lure of winning big may seem enticing, but for most people it is more likely to lead to financial hardship than success. The government's regulations around online gambling are aimed at protecting vulnerable individuals who may be tempted to chase unlikely wins as an escape from their daily struggles. (There is a reason that gambling is more widespread in poor societies.)

There are more reliable ways to improve one's financial situation, even if they require sacrifice and hard work. Building skills, getting additional education and seeking out honest employment can provide a steady income and sense of dignity. It may not be as exciting as a jackpot win in the short term, but will likely lead to greater security and satisfaction over time.

If online gambling faces further restrictions, those who have come to depend on it will need to make difficult adjustments to their lifestyle and expectations. But with commitment to more sustainable goals, rather than fantasies a productive path forward is possible. There are always alternatives for those willing to put in the effort.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

So if their is no more online gambling that means definitely there won't be no more gambling at all. So how will you cope in your country if eventually they put an end to online gambling?

I prefer to answer this question because the first part of the discussion has nothing to do with the condition in our country; if they put a stop to online gambling, there will be no impact at all because there are still offline betting shops, and we have government-run casinos.

Majority of the gamblers here in our country prefer to bet on physical casinos than on an online platform most of the bettors are not fans of online games, they prefer the ambience of physical settings, especially the elders.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on May 11, 2024, 01:57:15 AM

$100,000 is quite large amount of money risking and winning that much every day I think is impossible, and utilizing gambling as side place to bet and make money will also never be easy.
There are only very few gamblers who can actually use gambling to make money, and that only for those who are professionals and people who often take part in various gaming competitions.

That is a good amount of money and that is quite big enough but in reality we are all know that only few gamblers reach that amount in gambling cause we all know that gambling is based on luck not on purely strategy even though we have s strategy's but still luck is the main reason of hitting that kind of amount. And also we are all know that gambling can not make us Rich easier cause in reality loss a lot than our winning .

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Returning to the topic of discussion, I think that even if there is ban and elimination of gambling in any form in country, it will never be able to prevent gamblers from continuing to carry out gambling activities.
There are VPN and you can also change IP addresses to be able to access many external gambling sites and so the government also has much more difficulty in tracking down anyone who continues to access gambling sites.
There will be lots of methods that gamblers can use and as time goes by everything will run normally as if there are no problems whatsoever.

There are many online gambling sites nowadays so even though that countries that they banned gambling still the residences or the people can access the gambling sites as long as they have a good internet connection.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on May 11, 2024, 11:13:24 AM

How do people benefit from gambling when winning regularly is not something that you can be assured of?

I think that they are a handful of people who benefits from gambling even when they are not winning a regularly. These group of people are the influencers who partner with sports betting companies or casinos to promote their gambling website.

These influencers could be celebrated they could also be streamers on YouTube and other social media streaming platform. We also have those who sell their gambling courses online as well. When people buy their books they get a lot of money from royalties.

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Quote from: Ojinga on May 11, 2024, 01:42:12 AM

Earlier this morning I was going to work in a bus I over heard, some one complaining very badly that if the government tries to put an end to gambling. That many people will die in hungry with this our economy which nothing is working, no work for people food are at higher amount in their and some people are benefiting from gambling this days, that mostly him his benefiting from gambling.

How do people benefit from gambling when winning regularly is not something that you can be assured of? It is not something that can actually happen but if it happens then many gamblers will be surprised that the amount of money that they will be able to save, the amount of money that they usually use in gambling daily and weekly. The money they will be able to keep from not gambling will be enough to provide daily meals for some individuals and even their family members.

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