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sr. member
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October 29, 2018, 02:33:32 AM
#35
I can tell exectly what i'm going to do and what power and possibilities i have.
I go directly where it hurts.Since theymos is not reacting at all against false accusations it  means for me we have a free pass to do it.
Since my account is already being deeply in negativ trust because of Lauda and his gang i will give back the love the same way they come to us.
As a bitcointalk community member its my duty to inform people who coworks or may cowork with one of these faggots about their abuse and history.
I will collect all negativ posts about them (Lauda has how many scam accusations ?Lost his Mod position and later his DT status) and will forward this kind of information to anybody he coworks or may corwork
to inform them about my untrust to these persons including references by links.

Its nothing diffrent then the abuse of DT members which fucking negativ trust is instantly seen by everyone.
Since my feedback isn't been seen instantly by everyone i will make sure that important persons to these people will also see it and
lets see if they are going to change their mind or will start being pissed about these negativ feedback.
I made a small test in Lauda some months ago and he quickly deleted all posts about his abuse on threads which are under his moderation and instantly freaked out by giving again negativ feedback calling it harrassment.
So if you give negativ feedback and call somebody a scammer without evidence its feedback.
If i post relevant links about scam accusations of somebody its harrasment Cheesy

Funny you have other opinions when something like that happens to you.


I collected enough evidence to show how shady you guys are.
Let's see how quickly you will react once people start reading everywhere about your history and expecially people who you cowork with when they get it as PM


People who will get the special treatment from me

suchmoon
TheUltraElite
Timelord2067
The Pharmacist
Lauda
actmyname


There is only one way to stop it.
Remove your negativ feedback or post proof that i'm a scammer who scammed or tried to scam.
@Timelord2067 proof that i'm an alt of Quicksilver since getting 1 Merit of QS is hardly something you can call a proof


suchmoon i love how you promote your gambling shit......how you won $200 worth of BTC etc.....
Let's see if i can also spread the love to you with some facts.
@Lauda you know what i did in past and trust me this time it will be way better prepared and executed
@thePharmacist and actmyname you two guys are the ones i love currently the most and will use my freetime so say thank you for your great contribution to my trust rating.

Let's see if a non DT member will be able to clean up the shit you guys messed up with.
You wanna keep ignorant and keeping bsitthing .....ok i take this challange but don't get pissed once its started since there will be no turn back for me.

Giving the last 7 days till next monday before the special treatment starts.

Only possible way to get away is removing the false accusations (abusiv negativ trust) or showing proof that i scammed someone
legendary
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October 22, 2018, 10:14:22 AM
#34
I think it is interesting to see you didn't pose publicly debating the rating as an option.

This is exactly what happens when many people are added to DT who don't have any serious amount of trading experience.
He's obviously already debating his trust rating, the removal of which is not something that's under his control.  He stated that he's not going to accept the negative feedback he received, and I don't see how he has many options here as far as that goes. 

It's like being arrested and telling the cop that wearing handcuffs is unacceptable to you.

As far as the part of your post that I've bolded above:  My trading experience has nothing to do with any of this, but since you brought it up I'd like to point out that at least I've never escrowed any of my own trades with people.  In addition, you have no knowledge of the extent of my trading experience anyway. 

If you have serious doubts as to whether I should be on DT, start a new thread.
legendary
Activity: 3654
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October 22, 2018, 07:57:42 AM
#33
You should probably leave it to theymos to explain what his current view of the trust system is
Although related to merit abuse, this is his most recent comment about trust:
If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

This was said to a merit source, which may or may not matter.

I really dislike this blunt statement as it's now going to be dragged around by Quicksy et al claiming that e.g. sending merits between alts is ok because theymos didn't explicitly name it.
hero member
Activity: 1659
Merit: 687
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October 22, 2018, 03:04:26 AM
#32
You should probably leave it to theymos to explain what his current view of the trust system is
Although related to merit abuse, this is his most recent comment about trust:
If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.
legendary
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Merit: 3061
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October 22, 2018, 02:25:44 AM
#31
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Tell me, what is purpose of buying forum accounts:

1) to scam
2) to spam
3) to run legit business which you can't do with :
   a) new account
   b) new account and cooper membership
   c) already existing account

I really don't get why we just don't let people buy higher donator titles that come with the benefits of ranks (like bigger signatures and avatars etc). The account market is just such a shady business now and only really causes scams and spam. Most people are either just selling non-existent accounts that they don't even have or hacked ones if they do. I'd bet that most of the people who even try buy accounts these days get scammed as there's no protection for them as most escrows wont want to get involved. If we're going to allow account sales then just let users buy the benefits of the rank from the forum and we essentially shut down the market in the process. It's win-win to me. We already have Copper Membership so Silver and Gold ones should be added. It would also shut up all the whiners who complain at merit because at least there's a legal fix for them to bypass ranks; they just have to cough up for it.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 07:47:31 PM
#30
If you read my post, you would see that I said it was around that time....

Like what, the same year?

That quote still doesn't say what you insinuated. You should probably leave it to theymos to explain what his current view of the trust system is as opposed to your interpretation of a 4-year-old message from a different context.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
October 21, 2018, 07:26:04 PM
#29
theymos said around the time trust exclusions were implemented that those who give negative ratings to those who are not scammers will not be in the Default Trust network.

Wrong link? Doesn't say anything of the sort.
If you read my post, you would see that I said it was around that time....


I think the main problem is that the trust system has given members that haven't proven themselves responsible enough the ability to mark someone's account with negative trust, and essentially ruin the account.

Any inaccuracies will eventually be fixed. I'm not going to allow the default trust network to contain inaccurate ratings for long.




Being defamed here as scammer is not something i will accept.
I'd be interested to know what you think your options are here, other than accepting the feedback you've been given. 
I think it is interesting to see you didn't pose publicly debating the rating as an option.

This is exactly what happens when many people are added to DT who don't have any serious amount of trading experience.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 05:27:51 PM
#28
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Dealing in accounts contributes to the continued shittiness of bitcointalk.
by thepharmacist
Where do i deal with accounts  ?Accounts means multiple ones ?
Are you seriously using some insignificant semantics to try to bolster your arugment?  The above quote by me is equivalent to stating: "When a person deals in accounts, they contribute to the continued shittiness of bitcointalk".  I did not accuse you of buying or selling multiple accounts.

You seem to fail to grasp that there are written bitcointalk rules, and then there are the community standards which differ from what Theymos has decreed.  It became sort of the general consensus back in 2016 or so that account sales were leading to people getting scammed, since a purchased account with a good trust history could fool someone into thinking they were dealing with an honest member--and that it was allowing garbage shitposters to increase their earnings through signature campaigns. 

Being defamed here as scammer is not something i will accept.
I'd be interested to know what you think your options are here, other than accepting the feedback you've been given.  You can leave all the retaliatory feedback you like, but since you're not on DT it won't get taken seriously.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 280
October 21, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
#27
Wrong link? Doesn't say anything of the sort.
Trust me, I thought I could not see anything related because I am drunk and that's why I didn't make any comment, lol.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
#26
theymos said around the time trust exclusions were implemented that those who give negative ratings to those who are not scammers will not be in the Default Trust network.

Wrong link? Doesn't say anything of the sort.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272
October 21, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
#25
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Tell me, what is purpose of buying forum accounts:

1) to scam
2) to spam
3) to run legit business which you can't do with :
   a) new account
   b) new account and cooper membership
   c) already existing account
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
October 21, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
#24
It was good before but from last few years this whole trust system turned into a big joke.
theymos said around the time trust exclusions were implemented that those who give negative ratings to those who are not scammers will not be in the Default Trust network.

Today, users who regularly give out negative ratings to their enemies who are clearly not scammers, and who otherwise regularly give negative trust who can in no reasonable way be described as a scammer, are regularly not only added to the DT network, but will receive additional inclusions by those on DT1 when others exclude them.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 280
October 21, 2018, 01:36:01 PM
#23
To be honest, for a "senior member" like you, you shouldn't even care. Just start a new alt account and get merited by being helpful.
You are wrong at some point and also encouraging someone to do the same with new identity. Why he would create a new account?
Isn't it better to do something trusted from this account and get trust back from DT. I personally believe in admitting my faults and try to do some better in next and that's how everyone should be. Why do I need to act with a new identity?
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 12
October 21, 2018, 01:14:23 PM
#22
Wow a lot of hostility. I think the moderators of the forum are trying their best and I appreciate their work.

To be honest, for a "senior member" like you, you shouldn't even care. Just start a new alt account and get merited by being helpful. And you can start doing your shitposting in no time by another "senior member" account.

legendary
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Merit: 8909
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October 21, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
#21
It was good before but from last few years this whole trust system turned into a big joke.

Let me guess. This event coincided with you being kicked out of DT?
legendary
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Merit: 1004
October 21, 2018, 01:55:14 AM
#20
It was good before but from last few years this whole trust system turned into a big joke.
sr. member
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Merit: 276
October 20, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
#19
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It's unfortunate at some times I do admit, but the benefits of a uncontrolled/unmoderated system far outweigh a moderated system.

I would agree on that if there would be no DT1 and DT2 members on the trust feedback which makes everyone else feedback not important


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Posting threads like this however, will not help your cause.

Being defamed here as scammer is not something i will accept.Like i posted ealier i use that nick also on other message boards and people firstly see only see the trust feedback score.

If they check they will see i'm a scammer ,spammer ,account farmer etc.

You think when running a serious business you could accept this kind of defame ?


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Even now, you still don't understand that forum rules don't dictate what people use the trust system for. Did you know that scamming is allowed by forum rules?

show me where its says its allowed to scam ?Its saying they won't jude which is something totaly diffrent then saying you are allowed to scam.

You just offended theymos claiming he allowed officaly to scam people

hero member
Activity: 1582
Merit: 759
October 20, 2018, 10:24:07 PM
#18
The whole point of a uncontrolled trust system is that ANYBODY and can leave ANY trust for ANY reason.

It's unfortunate at some times I do admit, but the benefits of a uncontrolled/unmoderated system far outweigh a moderated system.

If you got negged and you believe it's in bad taste, make good trades, continue to be a good member, and perhaps a DT member will provide you positive trust to rectify/balance the negative on your account.

Posting threads like this however, will not help your cause.
copper member
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Spear the bees
October 20, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
#17
I'm not sure why you remain fixated on the whole point of "I'm being called a scammer" and "Account trading is allowed by the rules" even though these were already refuted multiple times.

And I even made a post that mentioned this a few days ago:

I got tagged claiming i'm a confirmed scammer
Where? You got tagged for account trading.

I also sent proof that i read the board rules before buying that account which clearly says its allowed to buy accounts and more important i even asked a global moderator for permission.
Even now, you still don't understand that forum rules don't dictate what people use the trust system for. Did you know that scamming is allowed by forum rules?

Funny you demand proof of somebody but don't care that you or your gang provide any proof of your own false claims ?
You posted that you'd take the account? That's proof.

Just tagg him for that.Its not important if its true or not.You don't need any evidence.
He has clearly also no issues his people tagging other members with false claims without having even the smallest proof
Here's your claim, then.
"Because P did X, now I can do X because they set a precedent."
Let's use a real-life case.

"Because Ted Bundy raped, now I can rape because they set a precedent."
Even if you were right about the absence of evidence, that doesn't mean you can have the same absence of evidence with your trust.

When you start picking apart words like you do in this thread, it means that you're scrounging for a point. You have nothing substantial so you're trying to nitpick.
legendary
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October 20, 2018, 07:41:22 PM
#16
Based on your comment i just gave you a negativ feedback calling you a scammer and alt of quickseller.

I'm sure theymos will be happy to see that, and also your 3 posts in a row. You're such an virtuous member of the forum - it's a shame how everyone is misunderstanding you.
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