Topic: THEYMOS GIVES NEW MANDATE TO DT MEMBERS - will they take heed?????????????????? (Read 1034 times)

I've started deleting trust I've left for wackjobs like notbatman or BADecker.    I sure don't trust anything those idiots say, but Theymos is correct - red trust should be left for scammers.  I fully endorse his philosophy.

This should how the DT members should act. theymos is concern about the abuses being made from the DT. Like in those market place where accounts to be trade is allowed but most sellers are tagged with negative trust. I do not really know if they were really being proven as scammer but I do believe that DT are responsible in giving red trust. Maybe not all DT's are abusing in giving red trust but jist hoping that there are ain't abuses as it seems theymos had made some reactions on this.

Welp CH, you should probably pack your bags and take off then since you've made it clear (several times) this forum isn't for you. Guess your "talents" will never be appreciated here, and that's a "shame."

See ya later dude.

But you are a running joke? someone who defines themselves and EVIL https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50719875

I mean someone defining themselves as EVIL is the NUTjob here clearly NUTildah.

Hilarious and co the most biased mod on this board seems to be giving merits to OFF TOPIC and garbage posts that I have reported for deletion. That are based on the speculation and guesswork of EVIL members.

This mod refuses to delete posts that we correctly report as being off topic but deletes our own ON TOPIC posts when he feels like hiding the truth about himself and his pals. These off topic speculations regarding POSSIBLE alts of members are not on topic.

What an observable mass of dirty dogs have infiltrated this board in positions of trust and control. Disgusting.

The OLD nutildah seemed to be less approving of the hilarious example of an impartial mod.



Then nutildah decides to sell his own account. SCUM AND VILLAIN!! the pair of them, and their pals.

We will gladly be alienated from these types. We don't feel it appropriate that you cast the rest of the "community" in with the observably corrupt and dirty.

Merit is a fucking joke. Pick the most misleading shitposts in any serious thread debating changes for the betterment of this forum, and you will usually locate the posts with the most merits. Great system. 

Pretty sure those are owned by ac2eugenio, who must have had a wrench or two thrown into one or more of the bounties he was managing by Lauda. He has at least 30 alt accounts, maybe more than 50.

I did think about QS. He always seems to be available to reply to their threads fairly quickly & is very active in them. CH started a thread about me in Reputation & QS was on hand to back him up fairly quickly agreeing that I shouldn’t be a Merit source or on DT.

No, Thule's problems predate CH's recent hysteria and their language is quite different. Another recent multi-accounting troll is Rambotnic. Those three (Thule, CH, Rambotnic) are almost certainly different users, each with their own set of sockpuppets. Their interests align (troll the shit out of DT/merit/etc) so they support each other.

The rest of the bus-bicycle-coup gang is somewhat murky. There was a group of alts in it that probably doesn't belong to CH. Quickseller might have had a hand in it because some of those users popped up after months of being dormant since a prior attack on Lauda. Or it could just be an unrelated group of Lauda's foes.

nah.  Quickseller's alts are forgotten as soon as he grows bored with them.  He simply does not stand behind his words.  :/

Perhaps you should start ignoring him if you're confident that it will resolve itself.

Meh.... My joke was still better.

Look at you CH: feigning a ban and giving your alt a preposterously pretentious name... Are you trying to test the limits of how far you can possibly alienate yourself from this forum while still remaining a member?

Perhaps the funniest part is you now refer to yourself as "we"; you are so desperate to have somebody on your side you have invented fictitious joint account holders. The totality of your schism between fantasy and reality is nearing completion.

At least you'll be remembered as one of the biggest nutjobs to ever infest the forum's pages, which actually is a pretty impressive feat.

Everything TMAN does is with the mentality of a scolded child.  He shouldn't be in DT or a Merit Source.  I'm sure time will resolve this.

Here we observe the merit source TMAN ( a great selection, if you want to guarantee the metric is super misleading) using merit to reward an observable double standards untrustworthy account seller when he accuses the whistle blower of being negative for mentioning it. Sorry guys. The merit abuse and politics that it enforces are crystal clear.  I mean the dumb fool notildah can not even correctly present the "joke" 

Q: What 'DO' you and a broken record have in common notildah?

A. You're both worth way less that 0.02BTC. 

Only people that have watched notildah begging for 0.02btc loans will know this, although most likely suspected it was the case.  Although, he is now sig spamming rather frequently his gambling sig. So with careful saving and a meager existence, who knows.

You or the person you purchased this account from? you have 1000's of posts about blockchain over the the years but need now to beg for 0.02btc loans?

Handful of people that stand up to double standards like your clear double standards of saying people should have red trust in 2014 because you believed it increased the probability of scamming. Then in 2016 you decided to facilitate scamming yourself by trying to sell or selling your account? thankfully we have a handful of people pushing for fair treatment.

Please don't seek to lecture others and stay on topic in my thread.  Also please present clear evidence it is thule because let us face it why should we believe a word you say?

See bolded -

Actually this is most likely due to the fact that the price of bitcoin crashed from the ATH. We’re in a period of low volatility, average joe isn’t hearing about bitcoin on mainstream news so he isn’t coming here.

When the peak of the next bull market comes there will again be a massive influx of new people coming here.

It’s nothing to do with people getting red trust. Nobody in real life gives a shit about that.

Look Thule: I have thousands of posts about bitcoin and the blockchain whereas every single post of yours with this alt account is in Meta or Reputation. So what is your point exactly?

It seems to be the same handful of whiners continuing to create alt accounts to make it appear they are greater in number than they actually are.

Most of the DT members gave stupid feedbacks,but theymos doesnt even care which is why this forum has decreasing number of activities and traffics what a shame! only those abusive DT members are making a lot of posts  that are mostly about the forum,but technically about blockchain? nah..

Those are some of the most damning posts regarding the DT system I have ever read. This will be surely referenced for future use.

Well this post is highly insightful. However, it would seem that OGnasty has recently had a rethink on this matter?  him and lauda seem to have traded some red trust removal. This is great for the individuals but places the entire forum at greater risk. This is a VERY bad move from OGnasty. I wonder what has caused this 180 on lauda?  How soon before Tman and owlcatz remove their red ?  can't do it all in one go since that would appear too colluding. I wonder if this came as part of the deal.

RE topic: Obviously not. The current implementation of the trust system is basically the same as the chinese social credit score system. One post is not going to change that.

edit:
This quote is especially relevant:

I'm guessing he is just waiting for 1cup to show up

No, you are just a liar and scammer as we have just demonstrated.  

You are great at making straw men.  Your pals are those you let get away with things you red trust others for. Got it now? Not everyone you do not tag. Surely you didn't think that would be acceptable as an answer. Try harder scammer.

So what about your lies and scamming? what's the excuse and why should you not have red trust for that?  Let's hear your explanation.

You tag others who present observable instances demonstrating your scamming and lying?  that is not what red trust is for.

You have stated you will keep trust abusing, so we will keep demonstrating that you are an observable liar, scammer, and trust abuser. We have nothing to lose by doing so.



 

This is why i say Power is blind as you people do not want to listen anyone. Try to click each of the references mentioned in the snapshot.  Its just like few people have a group here and they will help each other only and don't even want to listen to anyone and use this forum for their own benefit.

Here is a brief recap of my false Red Trust:

I said some harsh word to Hampaz and he used his power of red trust and give me  Red paint on assumption that my any other alt account was not accepted in fortuneJack while i don't have any.

The Pharmacist, Gave me Red trust because i offered to buy an account but the deal was never finalized. You can find the post here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14591746

The Rest of the people just copy pasted the "The Pharmacist", to make the blood even more RED  

I've gotten quite the reputation tagging people indeed. Dangerous kitty.

Everyone who I don't tag is my pal? I'll be damned, gotta tag 99.99% of the forum then.

I don't see your evidence that we are an alt of anyone ?

We DO SEE that you will not deny that you are a liar and scammer. Since the evidence is there in black and white. I guess there can be no denying it.

Why do you not have a red tag?? Red tags are for scammers you clearly are a scammer?

Why do you think you can give people red trust because they say they will invite others to investigate your past?  

How does an observable scammer not get red trust?

Persons who say they will encourage others to review the past of observable scammers are given red trust by those scammers??

How does that work?

Thanks for confirming you will continue to abuse the trust system and pay no heed to Theymos.

You wish to keep abusing red trust and you will continue to keep abusing it.  

I see the only option is to black list you and any other person that wishes to abuse red trust.

I would also black list any DT that refuses to give an observable liar and scammer red trust given the observable evidence  in this thread combined with all of the other Financially Motivated schemes you seem to be linked to. You must be the most dangerous scammer on this board.

@LFC shit posting bot

Looks like double standards.  Complaining that account sellers are "apparently scammers"

Ignores his pal nutildah calling people EVIL for selling their accounts and claiming they can be used to scam



Then decides to by his own perception facilitate scamming by selling his own account

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16312368


A lot of these DT members are observably clearly untrustworthy when it comes to money. Why the fuck are they on DT?

@2girls

U OK HUN?

I don't know who is he but he did not admit anywhere that he is crypto hunter. What worse is that "LFC_Bitcoin"  has given merit to "Lauda" on his baseless  assumptions. Isn't a merit abuse too.  

Power do make people blind as they start to consider themselves God

I have better things to do than play around with a child using alt accounts all day. You got to create more threads to attract my full attention, these are rookie numbers.

So now everyone knows and openly admits that  "DT is a mafia"  
 



Maybe OP is not happy but i am Hopeful that things will be better one day. This decision shows Theymos is not only concerned about the shit posters but he is also concerned about few DT members who are also spoiling this forum for their own benefits.

Nice attempt at a diversion.

I see no admission of any such thing nice attempt to divert. But enough side tracking let's discuss your lying and scamming and using red trust to silence people who point out the truth you are observably a liar and scammer.

Let's keep to YOUR PAST. No diverting scammer.

SO WITH YOUR POCKETS STUFFED WITH DARK COINS THERE WAS NO PREMINE BECAUSE YOU WERE ON THE LAUNCH HEY???

Look at the people here crying to keep the power to give red tags to anyone that presents observable instances of their previous behaviors.

Sorry but scam tags for SCAMMERS ONLY. Obviously EXTORTIONISTS and those MESSING with escrow funds should also get a strong look at.

EDIT - lauda?? where have you gone? we were going to debate your lying and scamming? but you seem to have vanished?

Nice of you to admit that you're cryptohunter. 

That sounds like you are reaching and guessing? We can discuss your theories later, let's stick to the hard evidence that is observable. We are not an alt of anyone.

Where as we have observable instances of you lying and scamming?


Here you are LYING for financial gain. Trying to scam investors into believing there was no instamine??  You are a liar and a scammer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7535561

there was an instamine and the project dev offered a 2 000 000 000 usd (peak) to compensate those miners that were shut out when the instamine.

You always have been since the start. It does not surprise me at all that you are now trying to extort people and shut them down with red trust.

You should have a red tag.  Lying for financial gain is scamming. You are a scammer.

You are using red trust to silence people presenting instances from your past.

In light of your natural scamming and lying behavior it makes the extortion attempt

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/laudatmanminifrijironmarvel2owlcatz-extortion-attempt-1764757

We think the escrow details of you possibly moving 3000 BTC and profiting from the fork should be made transparent and open.


Why are you applying red trust to people who simply say they will investigate your post history if you have NOTHING TO HIDE??

You are the scammer here, you should have red trust.

If you make more alt accounts, I'll tag them too. Dodging your red trust via alts does not work (scammer or not).

Really? can you present your strong case that I am a scammer because I can present observable instances where you have

1. Lied for financial gain (scammed)
2. Trust abused the system, and given red trust to individuals for them merely stating they will encourage others to examine your post history
3. Been STRONGLY implicated in an extortion scheme


We will welcome a full debate with such an observable liar, scammer, trust abuser and one STRONGLY implicated in a serious extortion scheme. Not to mention the escrow details on that 3000 btc move you pulled, not that we are saying that has as yet a strong case behind it but we feel it should have a transparent full investigation done on it.


What's wrong guys?? you don't wish to see scammers ONLY given scam tags?

A step back to centralization hahah. What lauda means is that red trust is being gradually taken away from him to silence whistle blowers that present observable instances of his lying and scamming.

Time to ensure ONLY scammers get scam tags, not just anyone who mentions observable instances in your own past you would like to hide.

Seems okay I guess (although this is a step back towards centralization), and it looks like I don't have to modify any existing ratings.

This thread is like a honey pot for trust abusers LOL

Come on now guys let's have some sensible enforcement to prevent the reals scammers silencing whistle blowers.

Looks like so far the idea of giving scam tags to scammers is not too popular. haha

Shut up, scammer! 

You will not take my money, scammer.

Theymos obviously doesn't want to do that, despite all your nagging and whining from this and presumably other accounts. 

Just woke up to see this new thing by Theymos, and it seems to be more of a disclaimer that DT feedback might not be given for straight-up scamming reasons, which most of us already knew.  I guess it does put more responsibility on DT members to leave feedback for "the right reasons", it doesn't look like there's a penalty for not doing so.  That's fair.  DT has always policed itself and will continue to.  Members who leave garbage tags won't stay in DT for long, and it puts the onus of relying on trust ratings squarely on whoever is looking at them.  That sounds like something Theymos would do.

Doesn't make OP happy, and I'm not surprised.  He'll never be happy until the trust system is destroyed and there's nothing left to this forum but a shitposted-over toxic wasteland.  Not the kind of forum most DT members are looking for.

I'm almost certain that cryptohunter isn't banned, but The-One-Above-All is his alt and wants everyone to think his old account was banned because it supports his narrative of censorship and oppression or whatever.

I'm not sure cryptohunter is banned.  She doesn't show up on the seclog or the modlog, and bpip has no mention of a ban.  She hasn't logged on since the 13th, well not with that account anyway.  Now we get to deal with CH Uber Alles.

I might start taking bets on when he gets his new account banned, like the last one.

I have you on ignore so I cant see what you're writing, but I dont think you added enough question marks to your subject title. Is it really a question? I'm not certain...

DT is so last week - we've moved on to merits source applications now.

Can you please stop creating a new thread every couple of hours? Did your first account (cryptohunter) got banned? Because if so, you will probably get this one as well very soon.

Isn’t it clear already that no one gives a damn about your ranting essays (theymos included)? It just gets worse for you. Even if you are right, DT is a mafia and trust sucks, you are just losing your credibility (if you still have any left) every time you come here and post a new wall of text.

Legit question.

Will this STOP those observable liars,and scammers on DT using red trust to silence those that whistle blow on them?

We will watch and see. We believe it will make 0 difference. They will continue to issue red trust for any reason they see fit, especially if you say something about them that is observably true and verifiable but they DO NOT WANT people to know about it.

It will remain a tool for observable liars and scammers to attempt to silence their critics and crush free speech.



Better to make an ORDER: prove that someone is a scammer, or bring a very STRONG case that they are a scammer OR GET BLACKLISTED from DT for giving out red trust to other people who should not have a scammer tag.

Perhaps a single temp red tag (3 days) can be applied for investigations to be done and case submitted for instances of serious doubt. It must be removed after this point if no clear evidence or strong case can not be provided. Perhaps caution under investigation tag for them.

If I were THEYMOS i would also make an ORDER that if clear evidence is presented to you that demonstrates clearly the person is a scammer or a STRONG case for them scamming can be presented then you MUST give them a red tag or describe why you will NOT or you get BLACKLISTED. No more double standards. Why should those that are clearly scammers be given a free pass to scam others ??

Grey areas can be put up for Theymos's own assessment but if you are on the wrong side of 3 disputes after he has studied the evidence then you will be BLACKLISTED. Obviously your judgement is not appropriate to be on DT.

This will bring them more in line and encourage others to play fairly with ALL members.