Topic: User got voted into DT1 by sockpuppets (Read 2807 times)

Thank you for mentioning this potential abuse, but I previously already excluded those users from the DT calculation; they are not the cause of The0ldl_lser being included. (You could not have known that I excluded them, since I don't generally announce it.) At the time of the last DT reconstitution, The0ldl_lser was included in this way:

Big requirement:

• Gangster-Hamster
• MoxnatyShmel

Small requirement:

• Gangster-Hamster
• MoxnatyShmel
• stoos
• Vadi2323
• Smartprofit
• F1ak
• Excimer
• DabLjat
• peloso
• airfinex

(Other "voters" may have been possible; these were the ones the system semi-randomly chose to satisfy the criteria.)

In this case I already excluded these users, but it is helpful if people point out potential abuse in the DT reconstitution process, since I don't spend all that much time on it, and I could easily miss things.

I know about the criteria, the problem is that until week 158 he was not eligible to participate in the elections ^{[the moment when 5 alt accounts intervened]}.

I have nothing against this guy, I'm just for the fact that the 4 mentioned accounts would be blacklisted.

By the way, Google translator should translate normally (I checked).

I don't mind

The above statement doesn't seem correct: Even without those 4 accounts voting for him, The0ldl_lser has enough inclusions to join the DT1-election.

Your evidence is in Russian, so I can't easily review it. But even if those 4 accounts aren't the reason The0ldl_lser reach DT1, if they're alts they shouldn't give any user more than one vote.

LoyceV, I hope you don't mind if I refrain from creating a new thread  


Request to exclude 4 related accounts from the DT selection process.

• Irrefutable evidence linking these accounts

Merited by witcher_sense (4), madnessteat (4), A-Bolt (1), imhoneer (1), tvplus006 (1), lovesmayfamilis (1), zasad@ (1)

• Confession

• Manipulation of the trust system ^{[thanks to these voices, The0ldl_lser became DT1 for the first time this month]}

Soon after the exposure, all the mentioned accounts began to distance themselves from each other (example 157/158 week).

My trust list today looks like this:


xolxol is probably part of this coven of merit farmers given their UID is a few ahead of this user u=2061631 (by twelve minutes) that is on the theymos list:

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I would wager zin-zang is probably part of this group also as they last posted three weeks before the others, all are created in January 2018 and last post in February 2019:

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ito-marketing and gwsukabokepjepang are probably part of this cluster too given they were created 24 hours (almost to the minute) apart:

If he was forced out of DT1, he would presumably be unable to vote via his trust list as well. Removing his trust list would only remove the possibility of someone not showing up on DT1 when they should have if his trust list votes were to count, and would reduce the chances of anyone asking any questions with substance.

It also looks like he does not like being questioned very much. What he posted is also not proof of anything, it does not show context, especially if there was communications before his alleged message he sent asking to be blacklisted from DT1.

So? Relevance to the topic at hand? Are you gonna bring up every one of the ~4000 users who are voting or have voted for DT1?


Holy shit, this is stupid even by your standards. You know that theymos is unlikely to comment on the reason for blacklisting this so you're just making shit up.

Its just funny to me that gunhell16 achieved exactly enough merit to rank up to Sr Member and hasn't earned 1 more since.

I suppose this isn't exactly "bounty cheating" because there's no way to prove for sure that they are all the same person, yet it is highly suspicious that all the bounty tokens appear to be funneling to the same ETH address.

In any case, good work, and in the future we'll be on the lookout for lude Filipino profile names, lol.

I like it
Starting now, I'm scraping https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview every hour. If/when I get a VPS I'll publish everything, until then, send me a PM if you have a specific request.

And then he stopped voting and removed himself from DT1 at the same time. If he had removed himself from DT1 and continued to vote for others, you may have a point, but he didn't so you don't.

Unless anyone is constantly scraping the DT1 list (doubtful), there is no way to prove that without theymos.

I also wonder why you would be so keen to invent this nonsense drama to derail the thread away from the issue of sockpuppets voting for DT1 members.

He has been blacklisted from DT1, see below:
You can see he was immidiately removed from DT1:
I posted why I believe marlboroza is pretending to want to be removed in the post you quoted.

It is possible he does not want to participate in DT drama. He opened a thread asking to be removed from DT2 on Feb 11, and within 10 days, by my count, he had left an additional 50 ratings, and in the ~month since he opened his thread, he has left more than 120 ratings.

The above happened when he was very well aware that he is still in DT2.

Based on the above facts, I don't find it to be a reasonable conclusion that he was trying to get removed due to the DT drama.

This is a fact? Maybe I missed something, but could you provide your source?


What's far more likely is he was just sick of the petty drama of DT politics and wants to take a breather from it.

I don't think you are this blind and are playing dumb.

As of immidiately prior to him being blacklisted from DT1, he was voting for others in his trust list to be on DT1.

The thing is that he does not appear to actually want to be off DT. He has gained a more solid footing into DT2 than he was before he opened his thread. He appears to have put in a "show" effort into "trying" to get removed from DT2, and is not serious about getting removed.

I don't think marlboroza, what I believe amounts to pretending to want to get off DT2 is suspicious on its own, but he was in fact blacklisted from being on DT1, and was removed from DT1 immidiately.

Based on the below two facts, I believe marlboroza was forced off DT1, and was forced into making a public attempt of getting removed from DT2:

• Was actually blacklisted from DT1
• Appears to be pretending to want to get off DT2

It is not normal behavior for someone to not honor this type of request if they believe it is legitimate. It appears those who still have marlboroza do not believe he is making a serious request, and marlboroza has not done anything to correct this, assuming he actually wants off everyone's trust lists (as discussed above, I do not believe this). A good first step to trying to get someone to remove you from their trust list would include sending a personal message asking to be removed from their trust list, and to follow up if they do not comply.