This argument is pretty much the same as the people who are pro anti gun legislation. Take away the right from everyone because of the potential for misuse by some. So when all sockpuppets are banned, except for the people that figured out how to get around any restriction there is that is, 100% of those sock puppets will continue to be dishonest, scam, what have you, while people are lured into a false sense of security because of course there are no sock puppets because there are measures to reduce them!
Scamming sock puppets = bad
regular sock puppets = who cares?
Topic: theymos, please BAN all common IP sockpuppet accounts - page 2. (Read 6135 times)
theymos, please BAN all common IP sockpuppet accounts.
...that is all.
thanks.
bitlane
I should add, I have a previous account that I abandoned BEFORE creating this account over 1 year ago, after the Mt.Gox hack....as I got tired of the SPAM emails etc with user lists.
Do you realize that banning ip is idiot and useless?...that is all.
thanks.
bitlane
I should add, I have a previous account that I abandoned BEFORE creating this account over 1 year ago, after the Mt.Gox hack....as I got tired of the SPAM emails etc with user lists.
+1
My question apply to you too.Dynamic IP, restart the router and someone else will use the banned IP. Result: the sockpuppeter will keep make new accounts and someone else will have problems with the forum because the ip is banned.
Really you don't know that? The INTERNET DETECTIVE?
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
I am going to use your quote, completely OUT OF CONTEXT
(so please bear with me.....lol)To address the OP, using your reply above: Wouldn't it be nice to see the actual number of people registered and active ? I am sure the stats look impressive, with thousands of user accounts, but I fear that those 'thousands' of user accounts are controlled by only 'hundreds' of actual users...lol
I don't think it's quite that bad, but yeah, I'd wager the forum's actual membership is a noticeably smaller number than it's registered users.
Administrator: 2
Brand new (SPAM): 41547
Donator: 76
Founder: 1
Full Member: 996
Global Moderator: 5
Hero Member: 363
Jr. Member: 7612
Newbie (SPAM?): 11220
SCAMMER: 101
Sr. Member: 447
Staff: 18
VIP: 28
Whitelisted: 1
You forgot the most important metric: Atlas alt-accounts. Un-fuckin'-forgivable!
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
I am going to use your quote, completely OUT OF CONTEXT
(so please bear with me.....lol)To address the OP, using your reply above: Wouldn't it be nice to see the actual number of people registered and active ? I am sure the stats look impressive, with thousands of user accounts, but I fear that those 'thousands' of user accounts are controlled by only 'hundreds' of actual users...lol
I don't think it's quite that bad, but yeah, I'd wager the forum's actual membership is a noticeably smaller number than it's registered users.
Administrator: 2
Brand new (SPAM): 41547
Donator: 76
Founder: 1
Full Member: 996
Global Moderator: 5
Hero Member: 363
Jr. Member: 7612
Newbie (SPAM?): 11220
SCAMMER: 101
Sr. Member: 447
Staff: 18
VIP: 28
Whitelisted: 1
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
I am going to use your quote, completely OUT OF CONTEXT
(so please bear with me.....lol)To address the OP, using your reply above: Wouldn't it be nice to see the actual number of people registered and active ? I am sure the stats look impressive, with thousands of user accounts, but I fear that those 'thousands' of user accounts are controlled by only 'hundreds' of actual users...lol
I don't think it's quite that bad, but yeah, I'd wager the forum's actual membership is a noticeably smaller number than it's registered users.
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
I am going to use your quote, completely OUT OF CONTEXT (so please bear with me.....lol)To address the OP, using your reply above: Wouldn't it be nice to see the actual number of people registered and active ? I am sure the stats look impressive, with thousands of user accounts, but I fear that those 'thousands' of user accounts are controlled by only 'hundreds' of actual users...lol
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
I am going to use your quote, completely OUT OF CONTEXT
(so please bear with me.....lol)To address the OP, using your reply above: Wouldn't it be nice to see the actual number of people registered and active ? I am sure the stats look impressive, with thousands of user accounts, but I fear that those 'thousands' of user accounts are controlled by only 'hundreds' of actual users...lol
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
Yes, previous arguments are very relevant to future and different arguments. People should fully live under the burden of their history. Nothing should be forgiven or forgotten.
Forgiveness will only lead to a society without justice.
Forgiveness is a vital component of justice. If nothing is ever forgiven, no justice can be had.
People should stand by their previous statements, and own the ones they want to make, but if we never forgive, how can we move on? It's the simple wisdom of "Apology accepted."
My point exactly. I was being sarcastic.
Ahh. My mistake.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
That won't only hamper sockpuppets. Potential real users will not want to come. Registrations will plummet to zero. Blogs pick it up. I can see the headlines: "BitcoinTalk worst forum ever; discriminates against free registrations". 
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
Yes, previous arguments are very relevant to future and different arguments. People should fully live under the burden of their history. Nothing should be forgiven or forgotten.
Forgiveness will only lead to a society without justice.
Forgiveness is a vital component of justice. If nothing is ever forgiven, no justice can be had.
People should stand by their previous statements, and own the ones they want to make, but if we never forgive, how can we move on? It's the simple wisdom of "Apology accepted."
My point exactly. I was being sarcastic.
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
Yes, previous arguments are very relevant to future and different arguments. People should fully live under the burden of their history. Nothing should be forgiven or forgotten.
Forgiveness will only lead to a society without justice.
Forgiveness is a vital component of justice. If nothing is ever forgiven, no justice can be had.
People should stand by their previous statements, and own the ones they want to make, but if we never forgive, how can we move on? It's the simple wisdom of "Apology accepted."
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
Yes, previous arguments are very relevant to future and different arguments. People should fully live under the burden of their history. Nothing should be forgiven or forgotten.
Forgiveness will only lead to a society without justice.
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
That would result in a much, much smaller forum.
Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
When people change their identity it is not possible to judge them on the content of their argument as when they changed their identity they also dissociate themselves with their previous arguments.
A way to do it, that I'm sure is going to be deeply unpopular, is to charge a registration fee. Although this would not completely remove sockpuppets it would at lest impose a cost on them. The fees could be used for the good of the community.
What you are proposing is not technically feasible. Wikipedia learned very early that banning sock puppets based on IPs just does not work. AOL for example mixing up all of its users in the same IP pool, multiple users in different houses will post from the same IP. What is more anyone with a whit of sense can bypass such blocks using TOR or VPNs or even just a web based anonomizer if they are not technical.
It is an endless game of whack-a-mole with no winners and plenty of innocent losers. Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
It is an endless game of whack-a-mole with no winners and plenty of innocent losers. Best to just judge people on the content of their arguments instead of some concept of identity.
Identity as a basis for trust is over rated.
People who falsely accuse anyone with different opinions then them of being puppets should be banned.
Who's sockpuppet are you ?
You already know I'm pirate. Thanks for the new condo in paradise buddy! Next drink is to you.
People who falsely accuse anyone with different opinions then them of being puppets should be banned.
Who's sockpuppet are you ?
People who falsely accuse anyone with different opinions then them of being puppets should be banned.
Quote from: sockpuppet
Your all a bunch of cock sucking mother fuckers!
Wow, thank you sockpuppet for adding to the intelligence of this community.
But an acceptable level of sockpuppetry is constructive to the greater intelligence of this community.
Meaningless sentence is meaningless.
I argue that intelligence can only be achieved with uninhibited discussion, and uninhibited discussion can be sparked by sockpuppetry. Until and unless fraudulent or dishonest, acceptance is optimal.
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