Topic: THEYMOS see this. This forum is overruned by bots. (Read 995 times)

I think campaigns are the only biggest problem here in this forum. What if campaigns would be remove here on the forum forever maybe it's the only way to avoid users to make alts and also reduces spam and many of them would go offline and never to re-open their accounts. As i've read some topics here, the situation was always repeated all about spams, alts of anyone, etc.. so maybe it's better that way.

Here are some of the ICO announcement threads that are run by bots that I know of. You can easily say its run by bots by looking at the posts and who are those posting. Most are newbies, newly created, 1-3 posts only and their posts are usually one liner. Soem of them are even copied from another thread just like what I posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36750497

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Or maybe, just maybe, that lazy managers are the one who abuse their own bounty with bots or people hired by the managers. It is just a “maybe” from me. This situation would be better if there are some  standard to become a manager, and all managers are gathered in one association, so they will have rules and if they break it, other managers will punish them.

Some managers simply don't care about them, do you know why? At the end they are still paid so they don't care if someone will abuse or not.

Well yeah but if you check out the topic OP provided, you'd see that a good number of them is a newbie rank. I mean, you can't stop that without banning bounties and airdrops that accept low ranks. You can just let them spam in that topic, because they have no reason to post outside alt-coin marketplace. :/

Tho, I didn't notice that they restrict those who join to one account, at least on the first page of the topic.

Why my red tag sir marlboro? may you ask me why where is justice??? i was on my profile and saw you give me red trust please marlboro you the best
cigar in the hole wirld.

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Note to the mod, I didn't sell my account after getting tagged, people usually turn to illiterate shitposter after getting tagged because they would sell their accounts.

At least they get a red trust. Even if they create a new account they rank maybe no more than Jr, unless their posts have good quality. Because of the merit they are increasingly difficult to board the rank. And i am looking for users who have multiple accounts but only one person owns.

Actually i've post where it should be. There are already in the response and some are not yet. I hope all posts that i make will be in response as soon as possible Because maybe I will find another users.

Oh my god, you catch so much of accounts have illegal action at our forum, i have join some bounty and find out some user have same name such that : Abu ABC, Abu XYZ, Abu DEG. I don't know why a lot of people cheating and almost bounty manager don't kick them or pass them.

Boy, oh boy, that's a lot of accounts...  Some people are really going above and beyond with these airdrops and bounties... Do they really make that much money that makes all of this worth it?


Well seeing how low requirements are for airdrops and bounties, I believe that they've already made new accounts. :/

Good job for getting them to get red trust! Will make it hard for them to join bounty

Everything you said does kind of point in the direction of bots, or at least some form of automated behavior. At the very least, these users are copying and pasting from the same script. More realistically, they are the same script, though. Could it be possible that these ICOs are hiring some shifty marketing manager that simply has hoardes of accounts that will shill the project and enroll in the campaign? It would be a sort of circular approach, they pay the marketing guy that claims he can get X amount of views/posts/interactions, but all the accounts used are simply the marketing guy who then gets paid to enroll in the signature campaigns as well. That's probably not the best way for me to explain it, but that's where my mind first goes when I see all of these different projects and different accounts shilling in the same manner.


Fair enough. You are definitely right about them being pretty worthless to the forum. I was just wondering if there was something going way over my head, rather than an exuberant thread title. Bots or not, the outcome is still the same and definitely needs some course of action.


You bastard, I was drinking a delicious homemade smoothie and just spilled some out of my mouth while laughing. That's more or less what I was getting at, but I presume this isn't any better than it being bots, just a little more sad.


Yeah, I'm not faulting them for thinking this by any means. I'm just looking for some explanation on the subject. The damage is the same, bot or not, although if it is bots then they have a much greater capability for scale-able damage. With any luck we'll have AI running around the forum doing a better job at posting constructively than these shitposters, maybe they'll even become quite the moderators (the AI, not the shitposters).

That is also possibility, but judging the number of accounts, their nicks, posts and the way how they are applying to bounties with each others twitters and other things this is less likely(there are more accounts). Look at this:

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Post above yours is different case and it shows only 1 and a half page of 43 pages, it would probably took me more than a week to post all stuff.

I'm not convinced they're bots either, but in the end it doesn't really matter--they're shitposting bounty-hunting scunts that need to be banned.

I envision a big room somewhere, that probably smells of cigarette smoke and body odor, where about a dozen young men sit at laptops, some with headphones in, and all of these guys are members of bitcointalk and each has about 20 accounts with which they earn money in bounties.  The carpet is probably stained beyond repair.  They all go by a basic script when posting, which is why much of their output sounds redundant and repetitive.  There is no originality in that room they're in, just desperation and poverty.

Or it really could be a bot--who knows.  But I don't fault marlboroza for thinking so, because that's exactly what it looks like. 

So, after looking through the proof I am trying to arrive at the same conclusion that you have, but I am failing to do so. It might be due to my inability to understand the information in front of my face, but please do entertain me. What drives you to believe these accounts are bots, rather than humans? I've read through the thread here and either I've missed that bit, or it wasn't included.

Could it be possible that it is just a very bored person, or a group of people operating very poorly and systematically? I definitely see the link between the accounts, but not that they were anything outside of human.

From these topics: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/biggest-airdrop-delicia-ico-decentralized-food-network-3339619 and https://archive.fo/KSKvQ

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe6c2d451936dfca11fa968426b93e70f8a135221#tokentxns contains large number of PHI tokens ( 4300), each transaction has only 1 PHI token IN  and there were all transfered within 2 hours.

If we search forum for each one address from these 4300 transactions, starting from last addy on page 43(at the moment) https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0xe6c2d451936dfca11fa968426b93e70f8a135221&ps=100&p=43 :



We will find accounts:


ETH addy 1+1

ETH addy 1+1
Some addresses won't give result, but probably could be linked trough twitter/face/telegram/etc.

Previous page:



ETH addy 1+1


ETH 1+1


ETH 1+1




ETH 1+1



ETH 1+1


ETH 1+1

ETH 1+1

ETH 1+1

ETH 1+1

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...only proves my theory.
^^^

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I will stop here at this point, someone could easily run script to search all ethereum address and bots. There are much more.

Just to quick edit post with this:


This one is accumulating address, I am not sure how I missed it.

Very hard worker malbrozer appreciate your this work.
It need a lot of time and very hard work to find such big suspect

I have to edit my topic, it looks very messy, and also there are few more bots/alts/whatever in second first post.

What do you think, should I separate alt accounts from proofs in reserved posts?
You know, first post for accounts, last one for ether/btc addresses and twitter id, second and third reserved for posts?

Yeah, I'll do that.

Not going to answer me? why is it bad if instead of tagging garbage posters and alt accounts for eternity, we could actually turn this opportunity in to the forum's advantage by having them to either donate to the forum or help the mods by reporting off topic and garbage posts? it should be under some conditions, such as tagging them again if they used their accounts to post garbage and cheat campaigns.

Me suggesting this makes me an extortionist? untrustworthy? did you think that I was going to tag people and then ask for money for myself?

To many hours, I mean, it took me around 15 minutes to find connection but quoting and reposting took few hours, it should be easier to connect other accounts because of their twitter accounts, it is time consuming and I will probably do it on weekend when I won't be so damn tired.
I honestly think they are all bots. Just take a look at this post (posted by BeEvil in known alts topic):

They are all connected with accounts from this post.

Hack that's a LONG list. I wounder how much hours you had spent investigating all these ALTs.


I like the variations LOL