theymos shouldn't merit and trust be mutually exclusive? - page 2.

TalkStar

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 09, 2019, 11:09:23 PM

If you propose a better way, it would likely be considered.

I beleive good proposal will obviously considered by theymos. Recently one of my thread including poll posted for same kinda purpose and many users participate there. I have got so many suggestions on that topic from our experienced forum users which cleared my confusion will work for others IMO.

Here is the thread link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49345492

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Quote from: Bazinga442 on February 09, 2019, 07:54:27 PM

Are we placing more value on creating good content than on things like successful trades?

Trades on the Bitcoin~~Trade~~talk forum are not moderated, but DT Members are doing their part to keep it clean.

Who would you trust ? And old member with zero trades but escrowed a large amount of BTC to facilitate a trade or bounty and never stole them, or relatively new member who completed a single but successful trade of over 50 btc ?

Quote from: Bazinga442 on February 09, 2019, 07:54:27 PM

By definition trust has nothing to do with posting good content or being a higher ranked member.

But it does have to do with reliability, which IMO can only be proven with time
"firm belief in the reliability, truth, or ability of someone or something."

Quote from: Bazinga442 on February 09, 2019, 07:54:27 PM

There are lower ranked member with more integrity than half of DT. Merit & trust are mutually exclusive and should remain so.

But they also have no reputation to lose. "To whom much is given, much more is tested"

The Trust system is obviously not perfect/might never be, but I do think it is work in progress. Eventually as times goes it'd come close to what ~~everyone~~ most people are expecting.

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Quote from: Bazinga442 on February 09, 2019, 07:54:27 PM

Nevertheless, why are good posters trusted by default? In my humble opinion, the logic of having 250 merits or even 1 merit to be voted into DT is seriously flawed.

Really you are not familiar with new DT selection system. Merit is nothing for candidate. Merit is required for voter's. It's very simple, who have not earned yet at least 10 merit how he will choose DT members ? Candidate criteria is only should be above member rank and active. What is the relation with DT and transaction? DT system isn't for make transaction. DT system made for prevent scam from the forum. So why always people's compares with transaction? If you have made transaction then just simply you can leave positive feedback's even you are not on DT network. You have made many successful transactions it doesn't mean you should on DT network. Successful transactions doesn't indicate that your feedback's will be accurate. DT system depend on judgment, if your judgment is good then people's will vote you, not for successful transactions.

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Quote from: Bazinga442 on February 09, 2019, 07:54:27 PM

Nevertheless, why are good posters trusted by default? In my humble opinion, the logic of having 250 merits or even 1 merit to be voted into DT is seriously flawed.

This could very well be true, but the question remains... What's a better way of doing it? theymos is trying his best. If you propose a better way, it would likely be considered.

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Having good grammar isn't the only measurement for merit or trust mate. Combination of good grammar & constructive posts is the key.

On the other hand voting system in DT selection is fair enough IMO. Please think before ask anything about this system that if any untrustworthy member select there it could ruin forums fame. Restrictions built for safety.

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Quote from: ac2eugenio on February 09, 2019, 09:08:07 PM

Shh...this is an english forum,thats why if you cant execute good grammar,nor spelling you are definitely a shitposter.

not true, neither the contrary is, proof is , you ! your English is good, but your posts are shit. on the other hand, there are members with weak to mediocre English who post very constructive and valuable information.

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It's not "flawed", it is "well thought".

IMO, the idea of including merit requirement to "Trust Rank Voting" is to prevent newly created accounts, 1-merit Jr.Members or even 10-default-merit Members (which can be easily mass-produced by a single person or group) to participate in the voting.
With merit as the filter, we can always assure that most of the votes are from active users, not from an army of 0-merit accounts.

Check this post by theymos about that "voting": Page25 - DefaultTrust Changes

ac2eugenio

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Shh...this is an english forum,thats why if you cant execute good grammar,nor spelling you are definitely a shitposter.Trust on the other hand is only for those Godly DTs here,look at the new DT1 members which automatically distrusted by the cult without valid reasons,it is valid for their own belief but if someone randomly distrust these DT members they will get instantly redtrusted (even if you are newbie or legendary member) because it is conspiracy against the DT cult who runs the bitcointalk.Theymos knows what to do thats why he gave us the chance to nominate members,but then the cult is joining forces to remove these newly added people in the DT list.

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I will not post a long diatribe as my question is simple.

What does good grammar have to do with trust? I apologize if this has been discussed elsewhere on the forum; I dug around a bit, but couldn't find anything related to this. This is not an attack on the merit system, as it serves a very good purpose and rewards deserving posters accordingly.

Nevertheless, why are good posters trusted by default? In my humble opinion, the logic of having 250 merits or even 1 merit to be voted into DT is seriously flawed.

Are we placing more value on creating good content than on things like successful trades? By definition trust has nothing to do with posting good content or being a higher ranked member. There are lowly ranked members with more integrity than half of DT combined. Merit & trust are mutually exclusive and should remain so.

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