Topic: @theymos your board sinking in chaos - page 2. (Read 1030 times)

Scams as well as trust are not moderated.

There is no fight. I have clearly stated numerous times that I would not retaliate against a neg trust rating. And there are plenty of DT members whom I can't "damage" even if I wanted to.

Cryptohunter VS scammers, liars, trust abusers and their supporters and ass kissers, from where we are watching.

There is no evidence to suggest the pseudo security of NOT having a red tag does not do more harm than just getting rid of the entire system? I wonder the number of successful scams that took place because the person says to himself: hmmm he would have a red tag if he was a bad guy. I'll send him my bitcoins.

I wonder how many HUGE scams were pulled by green trusted users?

These stupid petty scams the DT idiots bust, are only the scams the VERY dumbest and most greedy would fall for. The LARGEST scams are the projects here that produce convincing white papers, with a credible team, that burn through their dev funds, dump all their tokens and have some fake bust up and years later nothing happen but a bunch of newbies and greedy bums lost all their BTC and the dev team unloaded all their expensive tokens and took the dev funds in huge wages.  They then pop up later to start a new project. The billions lost there and the damage to confidence in the entire decentralized trust less dream is magnitudes more than these petty 3rd world thieves DT members think they prevent trying to snipe a couple of btc.

If you want a trust system THE MINIMUM is not allowing person on to it that are observable liars, scammers, extortionists, or guilty of ANY financially related untrustworthy behavior AT ALL, AND give some sensible fucking guidelines and enforce them. You only tag people that scam or you have a STRONG case they are going to scam. How hard is it? people that think they can red tag others who simply present facts about them, or wish to examine their behavior publicly, can be blacklisted, obviously.

Be little bit more honest. You mind it, but you know you "WONT" get such tags, because people who are "BULLIES" here won't try to target someone like you, as that's not "HOW" they work.

The only "TARGETS" they have is people who "CANT" fight or if they even try, they have "ENOUGH" in the bag to trouble them further.

So why do you "SERIOUSLY" think these "WISE" head will pickup a "FIGHT" with someone like you, who can damage them "EQUALLY".

Except I didn't buy the account. But you're right, if this sets an example that it is acceptable to engage in similar behavior, i.e. help someone out and prevent them from doing something ill-advised - that's fantastic. And I don't mind getting red-trusted for it.

Absolutely "AGREED", some of these people think they are making the forum "BETTER", but that's wrong and their intention is entirely different. It's fairly "COMMON" to see them "ABUSE" disrespect and do everything to a "NORMAL" member, as they feel they are "SUPERIOR" in every way.

I am sure "ADMIN" had this feedback system "ONLY" to make the forum better and to make people "STOP" doing something "WRONG".

But thanks to these people that "SYSTEM" has become irrelevant, in the finest way "POSSIBLE".

IF anyone needs to find logic then just "CHECK" the feedback that most people get. It will 90% have it from people who are "BLIND" followers or want to be in "GOOD" books of the big bullies, so if they see someone is "TAG" by that "BIG BULLY" they join in "BLINDLY", so rest it won't matter anything because no one is going to "ASK" them anything for this, instead there is "BIG" chance of them receiving "MERIT" for their NOBEL action.

So in short explanation, they basically "CLOSE" the door on faces of people who made "MISTAKE", and since they are not given chance to "CORRECT", they start caring "MINIMUM" for it and due to this the system is simply becoming useless, and I "BET" in next 6-8 months, it will become absolutely "MEANINGLESS".

And as said by Thule, soon there will be "NO ACCOUNT" left to tag, then these bullies will tag themselves!!!


I am sorry to disagree, but you got to "BLAME" the system. The reason you do is that it is created on "UNFAIR" grounds, as everything that works "WELL" in this world is one that has "BALANCE" and "CHECK" system.

Unfortunately, and really really unfortunately, with the "CURRENT" Feedback system, there is "NO CHECK", so it's like throwing "LOWER RANK" people in the cage of "HUNGRY WOLFS", they will eventually eat up "EVERYTHING".

The system has become a "JOKE" because of reasons already mentioned by many. YET unfortunately the "ADMIN" is BUSY in watching or ignoring.

I never said it did start with that. In fact, I think this is very relevant. You clearly lost the plot with me after the accusation and people painted the m_dayonliner account. You were seemingly ok and well behaved before that even though I left the original escrow feedback. Why would you even care about the accusation if it wasn't true or wasn't yours? I think you care because it likely is actually true and I effectively ruined that account you were busy working hard on to build your reputation and merit. Same goes for Retina. I only posted what I saw were very suspicious coincidences. Others found more and I'm not the only one who believes you are the same.

It did not start for the feedback you left for me for the 21BTC escrow offer (which I admitted almost immediately when I realized it was a mistake from my side), it started when you desperately started to accuse me of the connection of other accounts. And your goat head is too big that you even did not realize it all those days? You will never be convinced (I guess) that those are not me and will never apology for that. Knowingly or unknowingly you are damaging the forum.

Don't blame the feedback system, blame the people who are misusing it.

what about extortionists? are we going to paint these abusers too? 

I wonder how much drama would actually stop if the feedback system was removed (or negative feedback doesn't paint you 'red'). No more hilariousandco vs mdayonliner? No more Lauda vs Quickseller? No more Cryptohunter vs Everybody? Sometimes I honestly think we should just do away with it because of all the drama it causes but it would only lead to more scams against the newer members. I wonder if we did remove it would we get threads every other day asking WHY ISNT THERE A FEEDBACK SYSTEM HERE in some variation or another.


That was a fairly unique case and I think they should be taken on a case by case basis. I think suchmoon stepped in to try take the account off the market because bruno was trying to sell it and suchmoon effectively gave him a loan so he didn't have to and the account didn't fall into the wrong hands (which would be a good thing or net positive). I could be wrong though. Isn't the account returned to the original owner now anyway? There are plenty of other users that used to take loans out with accounts as collateral but that practice seems to have fizzled out (especially by more notable members probably since account trading became frowned upon).

Judging by the number of rage posts Thue recently posted and his seemingly recent inactivity, I am guessing he recently had a temp ban expire.

I am not defending his behavior (I am personally annoyed by his [and others] posting habits), but I really don't know what anyone expects someone like Thue to act when in his situation. Most of his negative trust was received as a result of him defending himself, and he originally received negative trust for doing something that is explicitly allowed per the forum rules. Before anyone bring this up, no scamming is not allowed per the forum rules, the forum does not moderate scams -- there is a big difference; also if you scam someone and this has been proven, the administration may out you when you try to come back under alternate accounts, and this has been done many times.

I don't find it unreasonable that he is trying to defend his reputation. This is what most people initially do when they receive negative trust for arbitrary reasons, but most people usually rage quit, except Thue has decided to continue defending himself. If nothing is going to be done to address his trust situation, and his behavior is unacceptable, then he might as well be permanently banned now because I don't see any reason why the end result will be anything different, and it would save everyone the trouble of having to see his off topic posts. I don't think this is a desirable outcome (quite the opposite actually), this is just the reality of the situation.

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I don't think suchmoon should get tagged for buying one of Bruno's accounts. Suchmoon does have a decent amount of trust, a lot of merit, and is on many people's trust lists. If someone was looking from the outside, and saw suchmoon do something, they would reasonably think, based on her stats that it would be acceptable to engage in similar behavior. Suchmoon is not the only person who has bought/sold forum accounts that can be described this way.

Some have argued they don't want to go back "far in time" to tag people who have engaged in this activity. However I would ask those who regularly tag these types of people what they would say if someone saw that a very "senior" (lot of good trust related stats) forum member did something, and assumed this was acceptable behavior, and proceeds to engage in similar behavior? 

How does it come you haven't a red tagg for your racist posts ?

Or Bruno for selling an account ?Or suchmoon for buying?Or even the bought account ?


How does it come you are not getting tagged for something everyone else outside of that gang gets tagged?
DT members tagging a bought account of bruno and once suchmoon asks to remove the red taggs everyone removing it.


Quite sad isn't it ?

Are you so innocent that you do not know how to make money with a DT label at your back ? Let me tell you HOW ?
You will get to manage the most highest paying campaigns and you can enter your friends and/or your unknown alts with in campaign. With Red turst abuse, you can rule out the competition. I can write a book on it but do not have time to develop your common sense. 

Some of us Merit cyclers are very attractive human beings. I certainly wouldn’t want my face sown up to cryptohunter’s or Thule’s ugly fat ass, would you?

Merit cycling orgies are a very strict, on invitation only gathering.

Well, if people would stop coming here and immediately jump into doing shady things, there wouldn't be so many of them getting tagged.  The sad fact is that most noobs come here for the job opportunity the forum provides, e.g., the new Yobit campaign with standards so low even an ant would have to strain its eyes looking down trying to find them.

Why are you still here?  I thought you had gone away.  I was hoping you'd gone away, maybe.

Being on DT did help get me accepted into the Chipmixer campaign, or at least that's my assumption anyway, but it wasn't something I planned or worked to achieve--it just sort of happened that I got put on DT and ended up applying.  That's the only way I've ever come near making money by being on DT, but I had been in campaigns before I was on the list.  They just didn't pay as much as Chipmixer.  Sometimes I get the feeling that non-DT members have delusions as to what being on it is like. 

Clearly that's the case with Thule and some others, who probably should be getting help with psychiatric afflictions in an institution with supervised smoke breaks and the like, instead of roaming about in the free world with access to computers and keyboards.

LOL.  I get the reference, and I actually love that movie.  As it pertains to the merit system, that's another delusion in the heads of Thule, cryptoscunter, their alts, and probably a lot of other members as well.

Please tell me how this works. I want to make money from being a DT member.

You know its nice you just admitted even the people who red tagged me couldn't show me a single proof that i scammed someone or even tried to scam someone that its better to open a new account instead of hoping for justice.

I got red taggs from DT members for something which theymos cleary said is an abuse of the trust feedback.

Do these DT members even care about his opinion ?

They don't all they care is to destroy people who want to change the status quo.

Its getting louder since more and more people get abused and they are unsatisfied of losing their old accounts.

Why should someone open a new account on bitcointalk just because a group of punks abuse the trust feedback destroying massiv amount of accounts but can't show a single user who have been scammed.

These people are here for only one reason which is money.

Based on their pseudo reputation they make more money and try to contral bitcointalk.

I mean a good example is yobits signature campaign.

Yahoo even unasked to be their campaign manager started a thread putting him himself into the position of their campaign manager in the name of forum post quality.

Of course they didn't contacted yobit directly asking to change their terms but instead support yahoo.

Why do they support yahoo ?

Because yobits offer is a high paying offer (if currently not the highest) where yahoo would lower the amount of post for the same amount of money and would add of course all his buddies (as always) into the signature campaign so they could get the benefit from it.

Its always the same game.The campaign manager will make good money for running the campaign and the signature participants will support  yahoo as campaign manager for their own benefit to get accepted and a high paying signature campaign.


I can guarantee you would this people not make money out of this forum they wouldn't be active in that forum anymore.

They hide behind the good of that forum where in reality all matters is power and money which they get thanks to the occasations they get with their power.


Actually we protect that community more from scammers than Lauda did.

For example i exposed Quarks scam and saved ton of people
Cryptohunter also exposed some projects.
There are many old members who exposed scams.

What Lauda is doing by tagging for any shit is not protecting people.
Calling somebody a scammer because he bought for example an account without even trying to scam is abuse.

How else can you explain that Lauda denied tagging many people who clearly tried to sell and buy accounts with the explanation that they don't deserve it  ?

So if Lauda knows someone than he is not a scammer when selling an account but when Lauda doesn't know someone then he is instantly a scammer.

@Thule, Your words reminded me of the history of 2004, the tsunami that occurred in parts of the Asian continent that sank thousands of people, and the city of Sodom (Popay) also sank homo sexsual people, who lived and left people who were good and noble hearts.

Certainly with that incident now the people and the sinking country are now prosperous and fertile with the arrival of new residents.

I also think, Forum is a joke played by @theymos and controlled, it is not difficult for @theymos to drown thousands of people on this Forum if he wants.
You know and also me, all those who came to this Forum were not invited. Maybe every day people register on this Forum with a new account, why should people come here if it's an unclear reason, of course there is purpose and purpose.

I think @theymos doesn't sink, with spam, on this Forum. It is precisely the members who are drowning, with the Legendary account banned here, will return to their origin, finish their history.

This is the world of the internet which can be turned off at any time, nothing lasts here, it's just a joke to live in the internet world one moment will be destroyed. Like karun, the treasure is abundant and sinks into the earth.

I'm curious about that myself. I know for a fact that the merit arse licking has always been more or less evenly distributed, at least among the invited participants of the merit orgies; I don't know why The-One thinks it's a strictly linear hierarchy.

1. You have no idea who my friends are.
2. Please explain what human centipede merit is.
3. Why would I want more merit?
4. Point me towards any unjustified negative feedback I have left.
5. Stop complaining about DT in general, just because a few members have negged your main and alt accounts.