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legendary
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zknodes.org
November 24, 2023, 04:36:38 PM
#69
Maybe the newbies haven't joined the campaign yet. Meanwhile, burst posting is actually not only done by beginners but also anyone on this forum who only focuses on the task of completing their posts. Regardless of how good and quality the posts are, because maybe they are just chasing the quantity of posts to meet their targets. And this is often the case. happen.

And for beginners themselves, we often find them posting a thread of new arrivals in this forum and asking for guidance to learn and become good here. After a lot of input and support, then they disappeared and were not as consistent as what they first posted on this board. And this etraid several times. It seems that their inconsistency must also be avoided in this forum so that it can continue to grow.
Newbies who just create threads and then disappear, they won't last long on this forum.
Moreover, you have to get merit to be required to take part in the signature campaign. But there are also some beginners who look enthusiastic and are always involved in discussions and provide good feedback. Beginners like this will develop and become good members later. You really have to be consistent and continue to be active in the forum to be able to understand what is happening in the forum, not just give an opinion and disappear without another response.
hero member
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November 24, 2023, 04:54:59 AM
#68
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.
This post's content is good, and it shouldn't be directed just at newbies. I know that many of them find most of these things difficult, and out of ignorance, they practise one or more of the points mentioned. However, this post should also be directed at all other members, especially lower rank members who are just starting out and don't know much about the forum. The majority of them only care about learning about bitcoin and other cryptocurrency-related subjects, and they assume that they already know the rules governing this forum. This is the mistake that most of them make, which costs them their accounts. Accounts are banned or tagged for careless errors that are easily avoidable.

Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Burst posting is actually not encouraged on the forum as most burst posters end up spamming the forum but is not only done by newbies but instead newbies should learn from this because it is mostly done by higher rank members in paid campaigns to increase their post quota to be eligible for payment for the week. Newbies can engage in this by posting to increase their activity in order to activate the next rank but doing this will only make them tarnish their reputation when they want to participate in signature campaigns, campaign managers don’t like working with such people because most burst posters are spammers. Though there are few members who post in similar manner when new posts are made but they can’t be seen as burst posters or spammers because they make quality posts and useful information that will be helpful to others.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
The merit system implementation was a good idea because, at the time, it was common for people to post short, meaningless messages—one or two lines, or even just a few words—in order to increase their post count. I have seen a lot of old discussion threads and i was surprised to see that more effort was not put into posting back then.
People are now more serious as a result of the merit implementation, and those who wish to move up the ranks will need to work even harder to produce high-quality content and contribute in a meaningful way.

Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I don't know how true this is because I haven't seen or heard of merit trading during my time here, and I haven't received any messages from any member begging for merit or merit trading so far, but if there are rumours of merit trading occurring, then there's a good chance they're true. If someone is committed and dedicated, earning merits is actually not that tough, so why would individuals engage in such behaviour? smerits should not be traded instead, they should be shared to postings that deserve them. Merit trading should be discouraged, and anyone caught in the act should be reported. Newbies should not be eager to obtain merit, as this will simply encourage them to earn it illegally.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 4
November 23, 2023, 06:09:50 PM
#67
On point (1) anybody making an unfiltered posts is not helping hands to grow because your desperation can mislead you not grow well and numatter how speed you are in posting, merit is awaiting and is for constructed posts for the growth of the platform and is not advisable to be desperate than being patient.
member
Activity: 412
Merit: 10
November 23, 2023, 12:58:23 PM
#66
Quote from: kentrolla
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them.  I believe many newbies that has received such DM for merits for sale before this trend or exchange other things with merits will start withdrawing their mind to such activities so that they will not fall victims to scammers or not to cause damage to their personal account because, if you distribut merits anyhow  and, there are amount of merits you can distribute in a month and if you distribute more than that you will face the punishment.

If you look very well as a newbies, you will discover that there are moderators in different discussion sectors in the platform and their duty is to check all the activities that is going on in the platform, and if there are some users disobeying the platform rules, they will be serve the punishment they deserve at the moment.



Already there are punishment for them who are going to sell the accounts and for those who buy accounts as well and the punishments is that they were given negative trust if some accounts found to be present in this areas. Although there should be some users who are going to trade these accounts and also there are members present who finds their account on time and they were treat like they have to be. Also this punishment is severe because every friend of the BitcoinTalk or every member here would be aware of his accounts and the rule itself.
hero member
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November 23, 2023, 12:03:40 PM
#65
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them
Well, if you think that a person who is suspected of buying or selling Merits will be banned or their ability to post or send messages is blocked then you are wrong. Even if a moderator or any member finds a person who is involved in such an activity, they won't be ban because this activity is not punishable by a permanent or temporary ban but such users will get negative ratings from reputable members of the forum after which their profile will be marked red.

However, this doesn't mean that users should do it, and it wouldn't even be worth it if they are caught because people usually hunt Merits to rank up and eventually join a signature campaign and they can't do that if their accounts are negative tagged, so their accounts will be useless if they are given negative trust ratings by DT members.
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 421
November 23, 2023, 08:39:00 AM
#64
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
Plagiarism creates the biggest offense in the forum because its clearly a sign of dishonesty, owning the woks of others and claim it to be their own. Obviously, those who are caught doing this should go straight to banning permanently so they won't be able to deceive in the future. However, burst posting is not actually done by beginners since they are still not allowed participating in any signature campaign, but with merit trading, well there are actually number of members who are apparently resorting doing that which for me is very inappropriate and should be given proper sanction once proven in the forum.

Burst posting is likely a general issue, aside from the old members who are very familiar with the rules and policies of the platform. It is not encouraged but sometimes, some posts that comes in that nature seems to be in tandem with the subject matter which needs urgent attention in most cases. Also those posts can be as educative as we could imagine but the manner at which it was posted is more of a burst post.

Plagiarism is more of an intellectual theft, which is against the laws of intellectual property ownership, and this platform is strongly against it. Plagiarism is a crime in the eyes of the law and is punishable, and anyone found wanting would go in for it. This platform is more of an educational platform; in that course, banning accounts was deemed fit for punishment.
member
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Ton Together | Save Smart & Win Big
November 22, 2023, 11:11:05 PM
#63
Totally get it, there's a bunch newbies should grasp about Bitcointalk and its rules to dodge the ban hammer. Plus, let's chat ethics, no buying or selling accounts. I get it, making a fresh account can be a hassle, and some dodge IP issues with a sneaky buy. But truth? Not cool. It's like cheating in the crypto schoolyard. Plus, let's be real, no one likes a ban. So, spread the word to the newcomers. Keep it clean, play by the rules, and let's all ride the crypto waves without any unnecessary wipeouts.
member
Activity: 1165
Merit: 78
November 22, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
#62
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.

You made a point here, mate. This aspect of plagiarism is what I initially thought the OP should have mentioned or included in his or her post so that newbies who come across this thread would see for themselves and know what is obtainable on the platform. The issue of plagiarism has cost many accounts here, and I must say that even after all this awareness, some would still fall victim to plagiarism.
The OP indeed ought to include plagiarism as one of the things beginners ought to avoid on this forum but any beginners who read the forum rules and regulations will understand the consequences of plagiarism. However, there are alot of things beginners need to avoid on this forum an example is things that tarnish their reputation on this forum.
hero member
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royalstarscasino.com
November 22, 2023, 04:28:20 PM
#61
1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Maybe the newbies haven't joined the campaign yet. Meanwhile, burst posting is actually not only done by beginners but also anyone on this forum who only focuses on the task of completing their posts. Regardless of how good and quality the posts are, because maybe they are just chasing the quantity of posts to meet their targets. And this is often the case. happen.

And for beginners themselves, we often find them posting a thread of new arrivals in this forum and asking for guidance to learn and become good here. After a lot of input and support, then they disappeared and were not as consistent as what they first posted on this board. And this etraid several times. It seems that their inconsistency must also be avoided in this forum so that it can continue to grow.
legendary
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duelbits.com
November 22, 2023, 04:02:49 PM
#60
Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these  activities that is going on here you mentioned.
Indeed. Not only beginners, high rank members are also possible to do burst posting and trade merits. That's actually not only for beginners, but for all the forum members. Every member in this forum must avoid them, it will lead the bad impacts for our accounts. If we care about our accounts, simply avoid everything that are prohibited in this forum, not only burst posting and trading merits.

Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends.  If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean  posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one,  the person deserves a merit.  Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.
Sure. As long as the posts have good quality and meaningful, there is no problem with them.
OP only warned the members who made low quality posts and meaningless posts. There are people who only focused on the quantity of their posts without thinking about the quality. It is what OP referred, we must avoid the bad behavior!!

hero member
Activity: 2814
Merit: 576
November 22, 2023, 03:33:49 PM
#59
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
Plagiarism creates the biggest offense in the forum because its clearly a sign of dishonesty, owning the woks of others and claim it to be their own. Obviously, those who are caught doing this should go straight to banning permanently so they won't be able to deceive in the future. However, burst posting is not actually done by beginners since they are still not allowed participating in any signature campaign, but with merit trading, well there are actually number of members who are apparently resorting doing that which for me is very inappropriate and should be given proper sanction once proven in the forum.
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 421
November 22, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
#58
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.

You made a point here, mate. This aspect of plagiarism is what I initially thought the OP should have mentioned or included in his or her post so that newbies who come across this thread would see for themselves and know what is obtainable on the platform. The issue of plagiarism has cost many accounts here, and I must say that even after all this awareness, some would still fall victim to plagiarism. You cannot just copy an article from elsewhere and post it here for no reason without acknowledging the source of the writeup. It is termed intellectual theft, and it is punishable by law. This platform is also an educational platform, and there are scholars here too who might not like it if their work is captured without them being acknowledged. Plagiarism is punishable by law, so in that case, if accounts are banned here for the offense of plagiarism, I would not hold anything against the moderators but rather the poster who copied and failed to reference their copied work.
hero member
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November 22, 2023, 01:26:45 PM
#57
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.
I have never received such kind of Message before since I joined this forum, and I don't believe it happens because anything we do here are all transparent and is the duty of every member of forum to protect it by reporting that person, awarding merits to anyone is not by anything but because of what the person have contributed to the forum, so if you are a good poster no need in trading merit it will come automatically,

and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Pay for merit? I will blame the newbies. Why buying merits? It is not different from buying an account.
I quite agree with you, if I have money to buy merits then why can't I buy the all account, I don't see any sense of what he has said by saying they pay for merit, even though they are doing it definitely the merit buyer have to be a good poster and if the buyer is a good poster then what is the essence of buying merits, I know for sure no one can merit a shitpost and go free, without called to order.
member
Activity: 412
Merit: 10
November 22, 2023, 01:07:29 PM
#56
The system of merit is quite encouraging for the users who are really trying for it and the users in the bitcointalk who really like to get the merit. They also get the reward at the end if they made a quality post and the better post which other users like the most and they users give them in return a merit. This is surely a good thing in the bitcointalk. Also it would be very nice for the person who is sending merit to the other if he gave his question answer. But asking for merit again and again without doing anything good is not a good habit indeed.
sr. member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 422
November 21, 2023, 10:43:35 AM
#55
In my opinion, this message is a lesson for repetition, sometimes you need to be reminded repeatedly to remind or make it easier for newbies who have just joined the forum to avoid things that are prohibited on the forum.

1. Avoid burst posting:
Regarding consecutive posts, @mprep has reminded forum members in the Thread (Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ) contained in point number 32.
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

2. Trading of merits:
The merit system is not directly moderated by the forum, but moderators encourage people to give credit to posts that are objectively high quality, not just posts you agree with.[1]
Merit trading is not recommended in forums because it will clash with the rules applied by the merit system in the forum. The case that befell this user can probably be guessed at where merit trading is heading.[2]

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=940276
full member
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November 21, 2023, 10:33:36 AM
#54
~snip~

Op said that new members should not burst posting but they should not make any posts until they need to. A new member should read more to gather knowledge about the forum and the topic he is interested in. This forum is for sharing knowledge with one another but in most cases newbies who don't have any knowledge about the topic still try to create one either by taking information from google or by sharing misleading information. Most of the newbies won't follow this as a large number of them are here to join the signature campaign and some of the new accounts are alts of higher-ranking members.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 1
November 21, 2023, 07:36:08 AM
#53
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
I really don't think this is for a newbie therefore a review on the name of the subject of the post should be considered. Secondly what are the odds that a newbie will be active in participating for a weekly target for a bounty campaign as you put it. Is a newbie suppose to be in any campaign??? Pardon my intrusive and inquisitive question.
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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies

receiving a PM from a random user asking you to pay for merits should be the first sign of a red flag except a person is solely fishing for merit, this shouldn't be of any interest to anyone as merits are earn based on the quality of the content that you've put out for consumption.
full member
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November 21, 2023, 01:00:06 AM
#52
Quote from: kentrolla
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
We all know in this Bitcointalk.org that merits are not for sale but any newbies engaging themselves in such activities in this platform, the punishment that is made for such rules will be serve to them.  I believe many newbies that has received such DM for merits for sale before this trend or exchange other things with merits will start withdrawing their mind to such activities so that they will not fall victims to scammers or not to cause damage to their personal account because, if you distribut merits anyhow  and, there are amount of merits you can distribute in a month and if you distribute more than that you will face the punishment.

If you look very well as a newbies, you will discover that there are moderators in different discussion sectors in the platform and their duty is to check all the activities that is going on in the platform, and if there are some users disobeying the platform rules, they will be serve the punishment they deserve at the moment.

sr. member
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Let love lead
November 21, 2023, 12:20:40 AM
#51
When I look at the content of the thread and check the rank of OP, some things are not adding up here and needs close observation. This account could've possibly been bought by a lower rank member cos this post is exactly what a junior member or member can do. The post quality is a disappointment to all the respectable hero members in the forum and its the last word in quality. You are itemizing things that a newbie should avoid and these two are the only points you can itemize and they're not even applicable to beginners. with your rank in the forum, your years of experience is questionable my dear.  Merrit trading is the most uncommon thing in the forum and not an advise for beginners, what they need are advises to learn better and engage more in forum activities. And lots have been pointed earlier though and there's no need to repeat them.
hero member
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Livecasino.io
November 18, 2023, 03:33:15 PM
#50
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
This doesn't apply to those who are not in any campaign. A newbies cannot be accepted into signature campaigns to this is ruled out for them. I think the best thing to say here is to avoid spamming as a newbie. And from my observations, spamming happens mostly in mega threads. Simply advise newbies to avoid threads that has past 15 pages. The only exception here is the football threads in the gambling boards and even as at this they should do it cautiously.
hero member
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November 18, 2023, 02:47:08 PM
#49
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
I think the major thing we need to avoid as a member of this forum is not just avoid merit trading and burst posting, we also need to avoid plagiarism which is the major reasons why many accounts are been ban from the forum. If we get an article from a particular source, it is good for us to drop the link so that it is going to be obvious that the article is not actually written by us and it not our own work. Many people especially the newbies make this mistakes and finally see their account getting ban. Plagiarism are always been report by people that know how to catch those that like calming other people's work.
sr. member
Activity: 714
Merit: 353
November 18, 2023, 01:15:56 PM
#48
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you;

Trading merits is not the same as sending out your smerits to the post that deserves to be merited.  Because when you are talking about merit trading, that is, when you send some of your smerits to someone and expect the return of the exact amount of smerit that you sent out, I have searched the forum and I didn’t see any where in which they said something like that is allowed to do, and you can see that we have some cases on the forum where they drag some account that they are abusing the merits system, so those people are the ones that do the thing you are talking about, and if it’s allowed to do, they won’t call them out for such cases.

I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit.
It is not disallowed by the forum. Users can do it and theymos said he knows there is dark market and if there is a dark market for merit exchange, he feels fine about it.

Only forum community are against it, discourage it because it will create unfair forum where shit posters can rank up by buying or exchanging

Allowed? How and when? Because I haven’t come across anything like that, don’t you think this forum will not go as wanted again? We will lack meaningful content, and that is why people in the community did not support such an act. However, theymos said you will be the one to risk your account to get a red flag, which means you will risk your account, and from there, possibly you may lose your account if we find out that is what someone did to get to such a rank, so let me ask: did you want your account to get tagged?
hero member
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November 18, 2023, 09:52:48 AM
#47
I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit.
It is not disallowed by the forum. Users can do it and theymos said he knows there is dark market and if there is a dark market for merit exchange, he feels fine about it.

Only forum community are against it, discourage it because it will create unfair forum where shit posters can rank up by buying or exchanging merit.
The current status quo seems OK. If you have to pay $20 per merit plus a risk of getting red trust, then that's a situation that doesn't concern me at all. I'm not going to lose sleep over people going to ridiculous lengths to buy merit, since only a small number of people will be willing and able to do that.

As long as merit sales are a black market, I'm happy, since that makes it far more difficult and expensive to buy merit. If that's the case, then the small volume of black-market merit trades don't themselves bother me much, and I think that it does more harm than good to get too witch-hunty about it.


I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.
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November 18, 2023, 08:54:10 AM
#46
Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; instead, you just need to calm down and ask what the process is.

I hope you know there is a difference between trading merit and giving out merit freely to post’s that is worth it. Trading of merit is disallowed, lots of people’s accounts have been tagged on the forum here just because they were caught sending merits to their alt accounts, which is very wrong. The merits system wasn’t created because they wanted us to be trading our smerit. If you see any post that you believe is useful to you or the forum and you think it’s worth meriting, then you can merit it.
 
What the OP means by trading merit is that you might receive a random message from a forum member asking you to send merit to them, then they will pay you back the amount of merit that was sent to them, and some will request merit from you, and they will offer to pay for the merit. Things like that are not allowed on the forum here, and if you are caught, your account is going to be tagged.

The primary goal that some novices pursue on the forum and inside a forum is merit. You won't receive merit if you don't do anything to earn it. To persuade some senior members to grant you merit, you should create quality posts and excellent answers with insightful comments.
I can say most of the newbies on the forum are here because they just want to rank up their account and join signature campaigns, and they want to rank up their account without making any impact on the forum. Some of them don’t even care to go through the forum rules and regulations, which is why they end up going against forum rules and losing their accounts. If you join the forum primarily because of merit, I'm sure you won’t be getting merit, but if you join with the mindset to learn and make an impact on the forum, I'm sure gradually you are going to be able to accumulate merit.

Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum. I have even witnessed a newbie trying to quit because he did not receive a merit and feels like he is wasting his time. I told him that everything needs to be patient and that if he understands the forum, he will receive merit in a way he did not anticipate. My advice to all newbies is to never give up on the forum; instead, keep trying until you achieve your goals.
Any newbie that’s planning to give up because they didn’t receive merit is free to give up. We need people that are ready to make contributions to the forum, and the once that can make an impact on people, if you are here just because of merit, then you don’t have anything to offer. If you want to give up, you are free to do that, because even if you don't give up, you won't be receiving merit. We all know merit is not given anyhow, if you can’t make quality posts, then you won't be receiving merit, and don't be surprised that some quality posts don't even receive merit.
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November 18, 2023, 03:46:35 AM
#45
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

Trading merit is the main reason why newbies lose their accounts, but it's not a bad thing in the forum because it's the only way some people can move up the ranks. However, trading merit doesn't require you to trade something with someone and then ask them to send it back to you; instead, you just need to calm down and ask what the process is. The primary goal that some novices pursue on the forum and inside a forum is merit. You won't receive merit if you don't do anything to earn it. To persuade some senior members to grant you merit, you should create quality posts and excellent answers with insightful comments.

Many people who have been here for longer than a month or a year are still in this position because they did not understand the forum. I have even witnessed a newbie trying to quit because he did not receive a merit and feels like he is wasting his time. I told him that everything needs to be patient and that if he understands the forum, he will receive merit in a way he did not anticipate. My advice to all newbies is to never give up on the forum; instead, keep trying until you achieve your goals.
sr. member
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November 17, 2023, 07:09:25 AM
#44
For the time I have been on this platform I have not really received any message from Amy newbie account or even established member asking me for merit or anything of such nature. From what you have said OP I believe you must have had such messages and I hope you don't mind quoting it here for us to see if possible.

Climbing up the ladder is not that easy here but with commitment and focus it would not be too cumbersome to achieve. The issue of burst posting I think should be left for managers to decide otherwise there are quality posts out there which might emanate from such and  if we are to go by that measures, those post are good enough to earn merit which they eventually does.
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November 13, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
#43
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies





Even people who called themselves snr member and full member sometimes participate in some of these  activities that is going on here you mentioned.  Well i don't think doing numerous posts is bad but it depends.  If someone did several posts and it is meaningful, I mean  posts that will help the forum grow is not a bad one,  the person deserves a merit.  Even if the person post often in order to participate in anything and the posts are sensible and encouraging I don't think there's something wrong with it.
sr. member
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November 11, 2023, 06:21:30 PM
#42
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies

For me, all these things are unnecessary as a newbie because the forum has more than enough ways for you to learn and eventually help yourself out but so many users still don't really want to learn because if not I think buying of merit is really an outrageous move to take in a community like this. Although same with me for the actual merit trading PM from other members, I also haven't gotten any Pm and I believe that maybe it might be true but I feel it rarely happens.
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November 11, 2023, 03:20:44 PM
#41

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

I kind of like the merit system and how it all works as it encourages and help people to get intentional regarding the kind of topics and contribution that is coming from there end. I believe that if you organically build your account from newbie into a full member, it should call for respect and celebration because it is an indication of your positive contribution to the forum. Whoever I receive any merit for making any contribution in the forum, it gives me this sense if fulfilment that I am headed in the right direction and will also encourage me to do better.
legendary
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November 11, 2023, 03:59:55 AM
#40
1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Burst posting must have different meaning to different people and everyone will claim that theirs is the best meaning of it. Burst posting to my own understanding is commenting on a dead post that have no engagement for a long time, commenting a post that has no meaningful value or contributing something effective to the discussion. It is totally meaningless and unnecessary to comment on such posts, that to me should be burst posting and not the one you explained as giving gap between posts. I can be posting on a regular interval for upto 5 posts, and if they are meaningful contents that is adding value to the topic, I don’t regard it as burst posting.

IF you are in a campaign then provably you shouldn't do that especially if you intentionally do it just to increase your post count to meet your weekly quota since for sure you will be in big trouble especially if the manager is so against on this kind of act. We should consider the value of our post and we must do extra effort like researching some information if you can't fully understand the keyword use by the poster so that we can answer them correctly or at least we have sense on what we are talking.

Many can post a lot here but its hard to do quality posting since it needs a lot of understanding so that we can contribute to the post and help under to understand some situations they want to ask.

Most of the time we can see those people do post bursting and its really annoying to read them since most of their post doesn't have any context and they made their post just to increase their post counts.
sr. member
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November 11, 2023, 03:09:15 AM
#39
It is not true. Bounty managers are very strict about the discussions and information you share on the forum. They check very closely, and if you do not comply with the rules, you will be removed from the campaign. It has happened to me three times in this year from different bounty managers, so just because you were accepted into a signature campaign doesn't mean you should start posting bursts.

Participants are paid per week if they deserve it, so your point on this part isn't so good, bounty managers aren't stupid, they are fit to handle any campaign, and that's why they are capable of doing so..

Have you received any texts from strangers asking you to share your merits with them so they can do the same for you? We need the screenshot to believe this. Merit can only be earned if you deserve it, so engage in discussions and drop quality replies, and you will receive merit from people who enjoy your content.
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November 10, 2023, 05:04:28 PM
#38
I don't think he will just make this post if he is not sure about what he is saying. That you have not received such message before doesn't mean that others have not received messages like that and kept quiet. He is speaking out so that you will be aware of what is happening. Maybe you might receive such message in the future, as no one can predict what will happen tomorrow.
It probably won't be a problem for people who have received such messages in the past and didn't share them with anyone else. Because for those who have never received a message like that, it can definitely be very useful if someone wants to tell them about it first before they receive it in the future. In this forum, everyone really likes to share knowledge and useful ways of producing something, so there is no problem with this message if someone wants to tell it to other people.
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November 10, 2023, 04:05:24 PM
#37
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Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.
I don't think he will just make this post if he is not sure about what he is saying. That you have not received such message before doesn't mean that others have not received messages like that and kept quiet. He is speaking out so that you will be aware of what is happening. Maybe you might receive such message in the future, as no one can predict what will happen tomorrow.

Initially I doubted the op when I read the thread but I had a second thought after getting to see another member who commented on receiving a similar pm as the op so right now I think I will stand by saying I believe a lot of things I don't trust on the forum but I would have loved to see the messages sent to those users even though the names of the senders won't be indicated. I hope I don't receive such message because I won't be cool with knowing very well that merut is one of the easiest things to receive here since it is not sold and it is never scarce, doing a little good job here will surely bring merits to any user even though it doesn't come very fast but surely it will come so needless of begging for it rather one can ask that his or her account to be reviewed so that quality posts that are worthy to be merited will get merits some reputable members are always ready to review some good post anything.
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November 10, 2023, 03:58:29 PM
#36
Beginners are not entitled to join signature campaigns. So this burst posting is not applicable for beginners in the forum, but maybe what you are trying to say are those that have only started to work on signature campaigns. Of course, burst posting is strictly not allowed, otherwise they will be removed from the campaign, or worst they will get banned from engaging into different campaigns.

And with this trading of merits, its clearly bias. Merits are being earned because you deserve it, not because you exchange merits with other forum members. If you keep on doing it, it's actually not a loss in the forum but its a big loss of yours. You are depriving yourself from creating growth in the forum, earning more merits means that you have positive improvements, not because you sabotage the forum.
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November 10, 2023, 03:38:47 PM
#35
Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
I actually thought I was the only one that's got similar PMS like this.. it was funny when i first saw it - I wanted to make a post with picture evidence and the rest, but I decided that it'll just be unnecessary and decided to ignore 'em. After along while, I realized that the connections between several accounts are always through these means..
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**Correction** "burst posting"
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November 09, 2023, 12:17:18 PM
#34
1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Burst posting must have different meaning to different people and everyone will claim that theirs is the best meaning of it. Burst posting to my own understanding is commenting on a dead post that have no engagement for a long time, commenting a post that has no meaningful value or contributing something effective to the discussion. It is totally meaningless and unnecessary to comment on such posts, that to me should be burst posting and not the one you explained as giving gap between posts. I can be posting on a regular interval for upto 5 posts, and if they are meaningful contents that is adding value to the topic, I don’t regard it as burst posting.
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November 08, 2023, 11:28:43 PM
#33
 
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Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.
I don't think he will just make this post if he is not sure about what he is saying. That you have not received such message before doesn't mean that others have not received messages like that and kept quiet. He is speaking out so that you will be aware of what is happening. Maybe you might receive such message in the future, as no one can predict what will happen tomorrow.
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November 08, 2023, 09:42:33 PM
#32
Adhering to this is the most important thing for newbies, we have seen many newbies spamming constantly. Basically they don't have spiritual knowledge in this matter due to which they make such mistakes, so this post of yours will be most helpful for them. There are many new users who just come to the forum and start posting bursts, for which they face problems and many times users get their accounts banned. Basically, people who copy and paste their accounts get banned, so be careful here. And when a person goes to show high he must post good quality to qualify. But some people spam for qualifications and take qualifications by messaging many people to advance their accounts. However, most of the newbies do this kind of mistake so they should keep these things in mind, but can move forward in future. Thank you for bringing up such a beautiful topic among all.
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November 08, 2023, 06:39:34 PM
#31
I was actually informed about this particular message you're passing right now, thank you so much we the newbie will definitely take note.
One thing you should take very seriously is to not always forget what you have learnt so far and don't forget the information that has been passed across to you. So many persons that were banned from the forum have been aware of plagiarism and they still go ahead to do i So if you were corrected on a particular error or something wrong you should always have it at the back of your mind That is the easiest way to grow and become a better member of the forum.
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November 08, 2023, 06:24:31 PM
#30
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies

As a newbie, what you should be concerned is about how to learn especially the dos and don'ts of the forum, also take out time to learn the activities of the forum and ask questions where necessary so you don't make mistakes or blonder, try as much as possible to keep to the rules of the forum because keeping through the rules will make you not to fall victim of any offence, because they are your guide here in the forum.
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November 08, 2023, 10:25:45 AM
#29
1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Yeah, obviously, these types of people are doing Similar activities are performed because the purpose of these people is spamming and making money. Besides, the aim of these people is not to make any knowledge or dissection on this forum, while their aim is only to make money; it should be post-brusting or any other spam.
 
If the purpose of these people was to gain knowledge on this forum, then these people definitely do not like to go against the rules. And they would conclude that it is undesirable to do this activity on this forum because this activity is inappropriate on a discussion forum. Also, the meaning of saying is that these people have to complete the posts for the aim campaign, as some members said earlier that these people fill up this forum with junk by making the campaign post the topic. This is a sucky act; whoever is doing it should avoid it in the future.
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November 07, 2023, 04:42:02 PM
#28
I was actually informed about this particular message you're passing right now, thank you so much we the newbie will definitely take note.
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 04:31:55 PM
#27
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting

2. Trading of merits

These things should be avoided by all members in this forum, whether new members and old members. Please remember! It is not only to avoid by newbies, you must always avoid them even if you are old members.

Other things that we must avoid, we can see through this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657.

1. Avoid burst posting
I believe, a normal newbie will prefer to read more than post more. When you just join a forum, you need time to understand everything in the forum. That will trigger you to spend much time for reading, at least you read the basic things in the forum. So, it is a bit strange if you try to do burst posting, you've no advantage to make many posts.

2. Trading of merits
I assume newbies still don't know about this. They even don't care about merits because they probably don't understand about the advantage of merits. Those who buy merits, probably not pure newbies. I suspect they are alt account of old members.

sr. member
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November 07, 2023, 04:30:54 PM
#26
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
...
2. Trading of merits:
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**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies


Actually, the topic you created has already been created by other users, it's just been hidden for a long time, but I appreciate your intention to make this reminder post again.

Burts posting and trading merit is prohibited in this forum, I still remember there were many members who were banned for doing merit trading, while Burts posters would usually be tagged by the DT team and it would be difficult to be able to take part in the BTC paid campaign, even though this is an open forum However, there are many rules that must be obeyed, all in order to keep this BTT forum conducive and maintained.
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November 07, 2023, 04:23:57 PM
#25
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.


Op I think you need to show some proof probably from messages you and some of the people who have in some ways contacted you concerning the exchange of merits if you want me to believe your story otherwise I will regard this as one of those stories that is shared to get the attention of the members of the forum. I hope you are not by any way bringing up the things you do because if you are found to have done any of these things that you mentioned here then you will be the first partaker of the reward( punishment)
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November 07, 2023, 03:58:52 PM
#24
In #1, you wouldn't be able to bubble post and join campaigns as a beginner, so I think this isn't really for beginners.

I think when you expand #1 from your post, that includes the initial introduction posts and question posts. For sure there are a lot of multiple repeating questions that people have and that would make it to the point that it's annoying and become spam.
Burst posting is totally a big NO when you are in a signature campaign, and I don't think only beginners are capable to do this because even those members in higher position are still doing this just to complete the weekly requirement task, which will eventually lead into removing your account from the campaign you are currently into. This is the reason why burst posting is always discouraged, as that could also affect that quality of the post at some point.
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November 07, 2023, 09:57:50 AM
#23
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns
If what you mean is burst posting.
What you are talking about is true. That every member of this forum is prohibited from making burst posts, if the post is spam. However, not all burst posts are spam. So quite a few members make quite a lot of posts every day, but these posts are very high quality and useful. So in my personal opinion, the thing that is best avoided is creating bursts of spam posts. Because even if, for example, a forum member makes one or two posts per day, if the post is a spam post, it's still not good.

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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Honestly, I personally have never received a DM containing a message like that. Besides, I have never heard of such a case. So, did you get this information based on personal experience or from other people's experiences? Because I just found out that in this forum there are people who do things like that. If this information is true, it is best avoided. Because if the chronology is as explained by the OP, this is clearly a cheating method that can be very detrimental. But I'm sure, if this ever happens on this BTT forum. Nowadays it is likely that such situations are very rare. Because currently I think the members on this forum are much more alert and careful. And this will clearly make it difficult for fraudsters like that to carry out their actions.
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November 07, 2023, 09:33:04 AM
#22
For the first time I saw this thread, I thought I would see many things that will help beginners learn how to operate in this community, but I didn’t come across anyone on your list. In fact,  there is no helpful advice here that will help any beginner, so I consider this post useless and meaningless. If people bring up threads like this, it will confuse the newcomers joining the forum because people will come to this thread and repeat the same thing, bringing different opinions, which is not right for a beginner to encounter while learning on the forum.

Honestly speaking, I also rush to open this thread thinking I will have something to learn from it but I got disappointed. Learning is a continuous process and anytime I see posts like talking about newbies and beginner, I don't hesitate to open because my believe has always been that I will also have something to learn either directly from the op or from the comment section. This is just like teaching when you are also suppose to learn. It's obvious that OP has no idea of what he's trying to say entirely because this forum as far as I know, is never against posting or put limitation on daily number of post as far as there's nutrients and helpful information in the posts. However, some campaign managers frown against posting for the sake of meeting up with weekly quota such as posting half of the weekly require post in a single day.

It's possible to be posting once a day and it will still be shit post without meaningful content in it. It's basically not about the gap but how informative the post is.
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November 07, 2023, 09:23:29 AM
#21
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.


This is the first time I’m seeing the term “Bubble posting”, burst posting is the more appropriate and common term used here. Campaign managers each have their own opinion on post bursting and deal with it individually. It’s really obvious when you see a user who is trying to make posts to complete their weekly quota, the posts are usually generic, low quality and sometimes even off-topic. No company will want to pay for trash posts.


2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

I don’t think it’s the role of moderators to find merit circles and identify those who may be trading merits. Have you received any DMs regarding merit trading? If so, you should open a topic in reputation and tag the accounts with proof. I’m sure there are telegram groups where scammers sell accounts and merits, I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to send such pms on the forum.
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November 07, 2023, 08:55:00 AM
#20
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns
So this is the reason why you intentionally give at least a hour gap between your previous post and next post in order to not trigger the campaign manager to kick you?

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Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required
If you're not get merit airdropped, you're still a member rank lol.

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because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
Do you think you're not?

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Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I, as an user who have been here for 3 years, never get any single DM asking to share/buy merit.

Where's the proof if the moderators can easily identify that and ban those cheaters?
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 08:39:26 AM
#19
On the 1. I guess you are talking about the Burst posting, some of the members doing those but keep making nonsense post like they are just spamming but there are some quality content with the continuous post could be different factors but most likely because they are trying to reach their weekly quota if they are joined in a signature campaign, I'm not talking as general.
2. Based on my experience never receive any DM for just begging merit, it's useless to deal with it instead keep yourself knowledgeable and be a contributor to the community merit will chase you.

Additionally with your thread too @op avoid commenting into an old thread just to up that conversation again if it's not really essential, we called those as necro bumpers just to meet their post requirements.
hero member
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November 07, 2023, 05:11:16 AM
#18
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

Being an experienced member by stay on this forum, i expect you to give or deliver more than this, there are many things a newbie is expected to take a look on, if i may also consider these two points you've raised, these are already discussed aspects on countless times, more additional information could have been added to sauce it up.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:

This aspect talks about post bursting, this is not allowed wether you join a campaign or not, doing so is what lead to spamming which is not allowed as well, you can read more about these here

posting etiquettes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-posting-etiquette-5184741

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1128795

2. Trading of merits:

Anything outside this contents is not allowed for merit, there's no howbyou will engage doing merit manipulations without getting caught, don't abise the merit system, don't merit your alt and don't sell or buy merits.

everything you need to know about forum rank, activities and merits.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177
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November 07, 2023, 04:38:46 AM
#17
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting Burst posting :
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns,
I believe you meant burst posting...

Anyway, I don't know how applicable this is with high ranked members as it's expected that they know their way around the forum and some of the rules..unless it's a bought account or something, but when it comes to beginners meaning lower ranked members I think the forum has a mechanism of its own that prevents users from post bursting with an inbuilt waiting timer for each rank before a new post can be made and this works well...

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.

The use of the word "MosT" makes this sound like a very common habit around the forum, but unfortunately haven't run into such...
sr. member
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November 07, 2023, 12:31:01 AM
#16
It is very common for people who come from the bounti section to this section to make such mistakes. When a user is working on a bounty campaign there is no restriction on posting he can submit his report whenever he likes but there are some differences in the rules for posting in other sections of the forum apart from the bounty section. In other sections of the forum a member cannot post one by one at will. When a member posts one after the other in other sections of the forum, his/her post will be considered as bust posting and over-posting can easily get his/her post deleted and a member may incur various bans. If posts are regularly deleted or if a member gets banned before, his account may face many problems later on, so posting should follow the rules of the forum.
hero member
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November 06, 2023, 08:18:56 PM
#15
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
While this never happened to me before.  It is such a stupid and silly move.

You can get Merits with such ease if you only show interest in this Forum.  You do not show interest, you gain no Merits because you just do not deserve to be Merited.  I am not a master of Bitcoin Talk or any thing like that.  But it is little effort to earn Merits up to some extent.  Of course.  With each new point you will need to increase post quality if you want other users to believe you deserve more.

There have been cases of users getting banned because of this.  And it is too pathetic for me to handle these cases.  Were they seriously lacking even the minimum brain resources required to earn a damn point so they had to resort to trading Merits?  What in the world.
hero member
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November 06, 2023, 08:11:20 PM
#14
Trading merit is against the forum rules, so doing such will have severe consequences. Although I have never received such messages but I will distrust any member that sends such personal messages to me.
Trading merit is discouraged by forum community because it helps shit posters, farm accounts to rank up. After they rank up from merit farming, they will spam in forum and makes the forum worse in quality.

Trading merit is not prohibited by forum rules but are forum rules important or is community voice more important?
- Giving negative trust for merit trading and deceptive alt-account use may be appropriate, but you should use a light touch so that people don't feel paranoid.

If the "gaming" takes the form of strategically sending a lot of merit, creating sockuppets, and stuff like that, then no. That sort of gaming might get me to blacklist people, in fact. But if it looks more like politics, then that's OK, and that's what H8bussesNbicycles's thread looks like to me.

The current status quo seems OK. If you have to pay $20 per merit plus a risk of getting red trust, then that's a situation that doesn't concern me at all. I'm not going to lose sleep over people going to ridiculous lengths to buy merit, since only a small number of people will be willing and able to do that.

As long as merit sales are a black market, I'm happy, since that makes it far more difficult and expensive to buy merit. If that's the case, then the small volume of black-market merit trades don't themselves bother me much, and I think that it does more harm than good to get too witch-hunty about it.
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November 06, 2023, 05:00:33 PM
#13

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

If I look at the title you gave, this is advice for beginners. If they are still beginners then they haven't had the opportunity to register in the signature campaign because their rank is not yet high enough to meet the campaign requirements, so I don't think it's appropriate for you to give advice like this. For campaign participants who post too quickly or use up their entire posting quota in one or two days, this is usually called a post burst

2. Trading of merits:

I've never received a PM regarding someone requesting or sharing merit, so I don't know whether things like this often happen or not. However, if they are still beginners, chances are they don't have any smerit yet so it will be difficult for them to share their merit with each other.
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November 06, 2023, 04:39:54 PM
#12
Their is so many things beginners have to avoid to get things they want, so if a beginners want to stay clear in the forum I think the first thing to do is to be making  a cogent posts that's more formative in meaning and also ensure that they avoid plagiarism and spamming, sometimes even Paraphrasing, because most of the newbie twist an already made post and interchanges the words of those the post, when you cross checked some of the threads in the forum you can attest that so many of the newly established thread has been discussed been discussed before.
sr. member
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November 06, 2023, 03:00:27 PM
#11
I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.


I think you meant burst posting. I would have agreed with you if you mentioned beginners. This is because a full member could also be regarded as a beginner. But in the Op as I bolded above, you mentioned NEWBIES. A newbie cannot burst post, no matter how they try to. When I was a newbie I tried posting fast consecutively but I was restricted by the system. There is a mechanism that stops newbies from posting fast consecutively, but as they grow in rank the restriction fades away because the time between posts is raised.

So, burst posting is not a problem of the newbies but rather established members.

About what you said in number two, merit sharing. It would have been good you bring an evidence
hero member
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November 06, 2023, 12:45:40 PM
#10
Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.
If you are a shit poster, you won't be able to rank up because no one will give a shit poster merit. If you want to rank up on the forum here, then you have to be a quality poster. If you are not making any contribution to the forum, then you will find it difficult to rank up.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
I haven't received a message like this before. I am not saying forum members might not be doing that, some members can go to extra miles just because they want merit and they are not ready to make any impact on the forum. I am sure if you are making a contribution to the forum, you will receive merit without contacting anyone for merit trading.

I don't know if you have received a similar message before? If you have received a similar message, you should have just reported the account. Since you have evidence that the account contacted you, you don't have to keep on covering up for members like that. A thread can be created on the reputation board with your evidence attached to it. Also, if you find yourself in groups like that, you can just try and get their forum account, and you can easily report them.

I just remembered that you didn't mention people that do buy and sell forum accounts. I think that's really common on the forum here. There are people that do sell forum accounts. We all have to avoid buying forum accounts because with time you're going to be exposed. It's better to create and build your own account.
legendary
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November 06, 2023, 12:35:53 PM
#9
1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
Completing campaign posts is not a reason to fill the forum with junk. Campaign managers consistently monitor the posts of participants so such a person will be removed from the campaign. There is a need to plan how to maximize your time in the forum to enable you to contribute meaningfully to the community. If you are been paid for the services, then you are required to give your best. Writing useless posts will not also lead to the member getting merit which will also affect his chances of being selected in campaigns.

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2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Trading merit is against the forum rules, so doing such will have severe consequences. Although I have never received such messages but I will distrust any member that sends such personal messages to me.
sr. member
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November 06, 2023, 12:27:41 PM
#8
For the first time I saw this thread, I thought I would see many things that will help beginners learn how to operate in this community, but I didn’t come across anyone on your list. In fact,  there is no helpful advice here that will help any beginner, so I consider this post useless and meaningless. If people bring up threads like this, it will confuse the newcomers joining the forum because people will come to this thread and repeat the same thing, bringing different opinions, which is not right for a beginner to encounter while learning on the forum.

1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

There is nothing bad if someone is posting without a gap or some period of time. What matters is how quality the post is. People can come here and do more than five posts in a short period of time, and you will see their posts as meaningful, so even the newcomers can post as long as they know what they are saying. However, I have never seen any signatures or bounty campaigns that include what you are saying in their rules. All that is needed is the quality of your post.
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November 06, 2023, 12:12:38 PM
#7
Inasmuch as it is rare for beginners to burst post, we should also know that it is not impossible for them to burst post either because anyone can burst post. A reading beginner may likely not burst post. For a beginner to burst post, it means they do not read replies which is not a good sign. This is why it is necessary to let them know of the possible implications. We know many beginners are always eager to meet up targets, so they tend to run faster than shadows, thereby  ignoring many rules and regulations that come with negative implications.
sr. member
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November 06, 2023, 11:59:21 AM
#6
1. Avoid Bubble posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.
It's Burst Posting, not Bubble Posting.  Cheesy

Burst Posting can be accepted if your posts have good quality. If I open some threads, compose my posts and hit Post after one by one, I believe campaign managers will not have issues with my posts.

The hidden fact is most of posters who make burst posts are shit posters and their posts have no quality to contribute for discussions. Consequently companies that hire them through signature campaigns won't get anything good or very little effect in term of marketing. It's waste of money to hire shit posters in a signature campaign, hence manager usually kicks those low quality participants out.
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November 06, 2023, 11:55:55 AM
#5
Completely useless post and advice for Beginners.

1. They are not generally hired by the campaigns on the forum, so it's useless advice however It's common sense and also mentioned in the rules of the Signature Campaign to not post to cover up the total posts.

2. I have never gotten any DM from any beginner/newbie on this forum in 3 years asking for Merit. There are various threads where they can post the link of their post and if it's good, the OP can merit them. I do not remember the usernames.
hero member
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November 06, 2023, 11:43:12 AM
#4
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
We can see cases of Merit trading, but if in practice they send DMs to several random accounts to offer their business, I haven't seen it.
the ones I encountered were those who traded Merit through several bounty groups. they openly opened the offer. their accounts on the forums have also been flagged. and getting Gifts in that way is not good.

after all, how much Merit could a beginner gain from purchasing it? maybe it will just move them up 1 or 2 spots. Maybe it's enough for those who want to join the signature campaign.
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November 06, 2023, 11:12:56 AM
#3
2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account.
Are you sure about this? I have not received such message before.

Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted
Moderators have never done anything like this before.

and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.
Pay for merit? I will blame the newbies. Why buying merits? It is not different from buying an account.
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November 06, 2023, 11:11:02 AM
#2
In #1, you wouldn't be able to bubble post and join campaigns as a beginner, so I think this isn't really for beginners.

I think when you expand #1 from your post, that includes the initial introduction posts and question posts. For sure there are a lot of multiple repeating questions that people have and that would make it to the point that it's annoying and become spam.
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November 06, 2023, 11:03:31 AM
#1
 I would just like to share few points which newbie should always remember and to avoid indulging in these things as mentioned below.

1. Avoid burst posting:
I have seen users making continuous posts without any time gap just to complete their weekly Target for bounty campaigns or even signature campaigns, this can get you flagged and there are chances you will be removed from campaign and be in the spammers list thus eradicating your chances of being a part of further campaigns.

Thanks to merit system that users cannot climb up the ranking just by count of posts and activity as merit is required because I have seen people used to make numerous posts even single or two worded to climb the ladder of the ranks before merit was made mandatory for ranking system.

2. Trading of merits:
Most of us will receive a random DM by users offering exchange saying they will share a merit to your account from their alternative account and ask you to share merit on their account. Never indulge in this activity as moderators can easily identify it and your account may be blacklisted and sometimes newbie are cheated on this context as there are group who will ask you to pay for merit and end up running away with your money once you pay it.

**Correction** "burst posting"

Apologies
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