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January 06, 2025, 11:54:11 PM
#31
I now see that this is a scam opportunity, but let me just answer the question for anyone wondering about this specific thing:

Are these people sponsored or something?

No, they are VIP's, you're not a VIP because you're just taking, you're not giving, you have zero value for the business so they limit you in order to lower the amount of noise you're creating.

To give you an example, if you would enter a store every day for 7 days and taking 30 beers in your basket to the cashier, but in the end just tell them that you'll want 1 beer and they should return the other 29, after those 7 days they would get sick of you and limit you to 1 beer can per basket.

This is what is happening here.

Sportsbook and casino businesses are here to make money, if you limit their method of making money, they will limit your method of making money, that's just the harsh truth.

What you need to do is the following:
#1. Stick to one and only one platform, we are all connected and share data between each other, if we smell arbitrage, you'll get in trouble. Go through KYC. If you've done all of that, now you're marked as trusted.
#2. Share the wealth, if you won 10k on sportsbook, go to their casino platform and lose 1k on slots, now you have a good Profit & Loss sheet with the casino (P&L).
#3. After losing 5k on slots ping customer support and ask them for a VIP manager to get back to you, ask for a 10% cashback bonus on that lost money, now you have the contact of the VIP manager + some bonus on your account. Make sure to spend all of that bonus on slots to pump up your P&L.
#4. Don't be predictable, only cheaters are predicable. Mix up your deposits and bets, keep an excel sheet to track all the different numbers, this is important, don't trust your brain to invent new numbers with every bet, you'll fail at it.

Now that you're trusted, not predictable, and have a good P&L - ask the VIP manager to increase the bets.

Ideally have an excel sheet for these things and track everything, because we surely do track what you're doing, and if the ADPU (average deposit per user) doesn't have a good ARPU (average revenue per user), we'll just limit you because you  sound like trouble.
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January 06, 2025, 10:09:33 PM
#30
So I even went one more step ahead to expose OP. I contacted him via telegram to see how clever of a scammer he is but unfortunately, he is not so bright. Grin
Behold everyone, hold your breath! (try not to die laughing Grin) here is the master plan of OP ;


Don't forget to apply red paint properly Grin


EDIT: OP deleted chat  Grin. But little does he know I have every word recorded. Run away from this forum just like I said earlier.

Thank you so much for your creative intelligence in exposing his cheating process to everyone. When I first read his post, I thought maybe he was talking so positively about himself to deceive people.

Everyone stay away, no one will fall for his deception.
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 07:03:22 PM
#29
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

Over the course of the 12 months, I think I've found an edge with soccer betting. Specifically goal totals and team totals. I mostly target full match, second half totals, and specific team totals. In these 12 months, I've managed to turn a starting bankroll of $4,000 into a little over $180,000.

The issue I am facing now is that most of the legal bookies I have used, including but not limited to: bet365, betano, betway, fanduel, draftkings etc, have limited my bets to pennies or a few dollars per bet, even for the well known leagues. I decided to give a few popular crypto bookies a try, and those have limited me even faster. The only bookie that has not limited me is pinnacle, but they have been giving me issues with cashing out and are consistently delaying my withdrawals/asking for documentation.

So the question is, what would you do in my situation? Please do not say Vegas because I don't think I am at that level yet, especially considering I am still in college and currently studying. I'm mostly an introvert as well and spend 18 hrs a day on the computer. I find myself constantly looking for good betting opportunities and think I could do this full time in the future, I just don't know how. With bookies clearly limiting winners, I'm not sure where to turn. I've read about Haralabos Voulgaris and how he used to have "beards" place bets for him, including Floyd Mayweather, but I don't know how I would go about doing that.

Any advice would be appreciated. I am mostly just looking for advice or stories from people in a similar situation. I'm not winning at a 100% win rate either, but out of lets say 4 bets, I am consistently able to win 3/4. Some days I would even just place 1 "safe bet", and if that safe bet won, I would call it a day, or if it lost, I would double down on the next and take my winnings and run. The only issue is that many of the bookies I have used have limited me to the point where even if I lost just $500, I would be unable to place $1,000 on the next bet. It's super frustrating, especially with a bankroll of over $180,000. Yet I was just scrolling through sites like Ladbrokes and Stake, and I see some people placing $100,000+ bets per match. How is this possible?

Are these people sponsored or something?

Please keep discussion in this forum as I am unable to respond to DMs as a newbie. I do have a Telegram account for those looking to have a more in depth chat, but I am not sure if I am allowed to post it here (same username as BitcoinTalk).

Although turning $4,000 to $180,000 doesn't seem to be real but if you are legit you want to try Bitcoin-Betting.com Anonymous, great odds and you'll never be limited.
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January 06, 2025, 03:41:53 PM
#28
This is obvious scam, also some people use this method as money lundering!!
It's called money-muller so be carefull you can get arested for this.

EDIT 2: Someone propused me the same deal om telegram

We have to be more careful on enticing stories that are nothing but fake and with the n=intention to deceive on others, at least there should be something serving as an evidence to use as proof over all these claims, but obviously there is none, also, when we listen carefully to stories, we are going to discover that the truth is far from them because they are too real to be true.
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January 06, 2025, 03:06:22 PM
#27
No evidence and some other stuff posted by posters above clearly imply that your story isn't as legit as you are trying to make it out to be op. Too many red flags in your case which is why I don't trust you.

Also, someone who could turn 4 grand into 180 grand would easily figure out how to find new options to continue increasing his/her profit margin.
I spot the red flags from the very beginning and that was why I was hesitant to comment on this thread waiting to see what others would feel about the thread, but what I just picked up with things online is that anyone claiming to find a way to beat a particular system and advertising online is poorly attempt to scam.


For that anytime I see these types of claims and offers I usually avoid them, alit of gullible internet users have fallen for these traps before, so we have to be vigilant all the time

OR MONEY LAUNDERING!! SOMEONE PROPOUSED ME TO GIVE ME CRYPTO TO BET FOR HIM WIDRAW MONEY AND SEND TO HIM IN CRYPTO AFTER THAT HE WILL GIVE ME 35% (OFF COURSE NEVER,) THEN I ASKED HIM: MONEY LAUNDERING RIGHT? HE SAID YES LMAOOOO Grin
I am sure OP IS A CRIMINAL USING PEOPLE ACCOUNTS AS MONEY-MULLER...BE CAREFUL GUYS YOU COULD GO TO JAIL FOR THIS ..DON'T FALL FOR THIS BS STORY...!!

Ofc bookies can limit your stakes if you win too much but this is not the case here.


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January 06, 2025, 02:56:59 PM
#26
No evidence and some other stuff posted by posters above clearly imply that your story isn't as legit as you are trying to make it out to be op. Too many red flags in your case which is why I don't trust you.

Also, someone who could turn 4 grand into 180 grand would easily figure out how to find new options to continue increasing his/her profit margin.
I spot the red flags from the very beginning and that was why I was hesitant to comment on this thread waiting to see what others would feel about the thread, but what I just picked up with things online is that anyone claiming to find a way to beat a particular system and advertising online is poorly attempt to scam.


For that anytime I see these types of claims and offers I usually avoid them, alit of gullible internet users have fallen for these traps before, so we have to be vigilant all the time
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January 06, 2025, 02:49:42 PM
#25
I find it hard to believe that casinos would be limited the bets of people just for having a high winning percentage.  Certainly this isn't something that Stake has done to you.  I could see maybe some of the smaller ones...  Everyone has runs of good luck though and it can be great until it isn't anymore.  Casinos know this.  They wouldn't stop people who are up from gambling, then they would always be losers.  The more you win the more they want you at the tables giving back those winnings.
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January 06, 2025, 02:49:33 PM
#24
This is obvious scam, also some people use this method as money lundering!!
It's called money-muller so be carefull you can get arested for this.

EDIT 2: Someone propused me the same deal om telegram
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 02:42:02 PM
#23
No evidence and some other stuff posted by posters above clearly imply that your story isn't as legit as you are trying to make it out to be op. Too many red flags in your case which is why I don't trust you.

Also, someone who could turn 4 grand into 180 grand would easily figure out how to find new options to continue increasing his/her profit margin.

It was an attempt to scam people, @memehunter had already posted a conversation with @OP on Telegram, and @yahoo62278 reiterated such stuff.  @OP great words in the beginning of this thread is way to make him look good and make the readers think he is capable but someone in the earlier post exposed his scheme.  Instead of giving a tip about certain matches, @OP wanted to access the account to test the "betting limit" and so on which just like @yahoo62278 stated, was a red flag.

Hopefully no one falls for this kind of scam attempt.
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January 06, 2025, 02:07:39 PM
#22
Hi guys. Long time lurker, first time poster.

Over the course of the 12 months, I think I've found an edge with soccer betting. Specifically goal totals and team totals. I mostly target full match, second half totals, and specific team totals. In these 12 months, I've managed to turn a starting bankroll of $4,000 into a little over $180,000.

Am sure there are times also that things wouldn't have been smiling at you and then you record some reasonable amount of losses at the cause of the year, but i think your persistence and commitment to improving on your gambling strategy help in getting to where you are, though you may also have to include some of the evidence to all these claims.

Please keep discussion in this forum as I am unable to respond to DMs as a newbie. I do have a Telegram account for those looking to have a more in depth chat, but I am not sure if I am allowed to post it here (same username as BitcoinTalk).

Even your telegram username can be added to your forum profile if you can edit it and wouldn't mind any random person chatting you up, well that is to your own choice anyway.
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January 06, 2025, 06:50:55 AM
#21
No evidence and some other stuff posted by posters above clearly imply that your story isn't as legit as you are trying to make it out to be op. Too many red flags in your case which is why I don't trust you.

Also, someone who could turn 4 grand into 180 grand would easily figure out how to find new options to continue increasing his/her profit margin.
sr. member
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January 06, 2025, 06:30:03 AM
#20
Well scripted OP. I was wondering if you know where you are saying all this stuff expecting members to believe you. Do you not have friends that you gamble with? you could use their account since you know them and they know you at least some level of trust must have been built over the years so they would not need to worry or fear your disappearance with their account. However, there are other big casinos that you could try if the ones you are registered with have disappointed you or restricted or limited you from their casino.

Nevertheless, it is natural that we humans are quite gregarious and would always keep things of this nature from the public, and looking at all you have said, I believe this should be your hustle, and in the normal sense, you would want to keep it a secrete to yourself alone so that it does not get exposed and your strategies get leaked which would also affect you In the long run.
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 06:28:34 AM
#19
So, you find a good betting method and now the casinos are locking the amount of your bets, for that you can ask to your friends if they can loan their accounts to you.

Or Another way is to use a casino that will not limit your betting amount, some good option are meta win or stake.
I am pretty sure that this way of thinking is OP's goal. If it's a money laundering operation, OP is looking for accounts that can be used to gamble with. And if it's another kind of scam, OP is looking for people wanting to invest in these "never ending profits"

It's a possibility that this was a genuine question and OP was just being lucky and limited, and answering to him about more casinos offering good limits wouldn't hurt.
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January 06, 2025, 05:24:46 AM
#18


Over the course of the 12 months, I think I've found an edge with soccer betting. Specifically goal totals and team totals. I mostly target full match, second half totals, and specific team totals. In these 12 months, I've managed to turn a starting bankroll of $4,000 into a little over $180,000.

First, I am thinking that if you were able to turn  $4k to $180k as you claimed, you will not even come on the forum to share this post because you do have a lot of people living in your world whom you can ask to pay you so you can give them what ever the strategy is and secondly if you are for real, you will not hesitate to share the images of how you managed to turn $4k to $180k.
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 02:48:47 AM
#17
I'm going to be honest, this looks like a very well written attempted scam post.

Yep, basically this.

I am pretty sure this is some sort of scam attempt by OP as well. I would not trust my money, account, telegram contact or anything else to this guy.

And I am glad to see some community members here who are still vigilant and know what to look out for. Good for you guys.
Yeah, only a backward thinker will fail to get the clear picture of what op was or is driving at here, the fact that at the end of his post, he did not fail to talk about those that may want to contact him; give a clear picture that he was indeed, expecting some gullible gamblers to contact him to possibly show them how to they too can become winners like himself, and one signature this scammers never fail at is the mentioning of Telegram, and how they indirectly advice their potential victims to contact them off the forum  private messaging service.

Anyways, another clear indication that op is indeed a scammer is that, if he was legitimate, he did be here trying to atleast defend himself with some kind of proves, but he won't do this, because this is what scanners are known for, they make a post, provide a means through which they can be contacted privately, and then zoom off, never to show up or even reply to that post again..
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January 06, 2025, 02:48:10 AM
#16
Your limitation is as a results of not passing KYC and if you do pass kyc i don't think any gambling site would have restricts you just like that, knowing too well that you do not violates any rules from the gambling site. Of course this is a scam attempt because even stake.com you said doesn't restricts after you pass their kyc. However, there are series of gambling site here you can use without being restricted for any reason provided you would pass kyc, and know too well that no way or methods is reliable for gambling winning because if you think you found a way to win then you must be dreaming because they are not automatic way to secure winning and gambling is a game of chances/luck.
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January 06, 2025, 02:43:30 AM
#15
So, you find a good betting method and now the casinos are locking the amount of your bets, for that you can ask to your friends if they can loan their accounts to you.

Or Another way is to use a casino that will not limit your betting amount, some good option are meta win or stake.
I don't think there is any casino around where a player can't be limited if he is constantly winning to the extent the casino begins to see or perceive the player as a threat to their finances.

I do not completely believe the op to be honest, I feel there is a different motive to why he created this post, we have seen his type before here on several occasions, they come claiming to be so good that casinos are limiting their account, this they do to attract the attention of frustrated gamblers who hardly wins, to contact them seeking out help, they in turn promise to provide the fraustrated gambler with game to bet on at a price which the fraustrated gambler must pay first, the fraustrated gambler end up being scammed at the end of the day.

So, don't take this dude serious, casinos will always limited gamblers who are found to be always and constantly winning, because mathematically, it's impossible for a gambler to always at all time, Win every single bet he or she places.
You should probably look at the telegram convo posted by memehunter. The OP wanting to control your account is red flag #1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 and more lol. He is just looking for idiots to run his scam on and hope you're dumb enough to let him access you account with funds in it.

He also made the post and logged out 4 minutes later never to be seen again.
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 02:39:02 AM
#14
I'm going to be honest, this looks like a very well written attempted scam post.

Yep, basically this.

I am pretty sure this is some sort of scam attempt by OP as well. I would not trust my money, account, telegram contact or anything else to this guy.

And I am glad to see some community members here who are still vigilant and know what to look out for. Good for you guys.
legendary
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January 06, 2025, 02:29:12 AM
#13
So, you find a good betting method and now the casinos are locking the amount of your bets, for that you can ask to your friends if they can loan their accounts to you.

Or Another way is to use a casino that will not limit your betting amount, some good option are meta win or stake.
I don't think there is any casino around where a player can't be limited if he is constantly winning to the extent the casino begins to see or perceive the player as a threat to their finances.

I do not completely believe the op to be honest, I feel there is a different motive to why he created this post, we have seen his type before here on several occasions, they come claiming to be so good that casinos are limiting their account, this they do to attract the attention of frustrated gamblers who hardly wins, to contact them seeking out help, they in turn promise to provide the fraustrated gambler with game to bet on at a price which the fraustrated gambler must pay first, the fraustrated gambler end up being scammed at the end of the day.

So, don't take this dude serious, casinos will always limited gamblers who are found to be always and constantly winning, because mathematically, it's impossible for a gambler to always at all time, Win every single bet he or she places.
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January 06, 2025, 01:57:47 AM
#12

Over the course of the 12 months, I think I've found an edge with soccer betting. Specifically goal totals and team totals. I mostly target full match, second half totals, and specific team totals. In these 12 months, I've managed to turn a starting bankroll of $4,000 into a little over $180,000.


Nice try. Honour and profit lie not in one sack  Grin
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