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sr. member
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January 28, 2014, 04:41:30 AM
#32
bitcointalk is always good for some entertaining arguments
legendary
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To the moon?
January 25, 2014, 05:14:09 PM
#30
Why would ASICMiner's facility be out of business? Even if Hong Kong had to oblige to China's laws they'd still be generating a ton of coin that can be turned into local currency somehow at the end of the month.
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'All that glitters is not gold'
January 25, 2014, 12:58:36 PM
#29
op... you are funny dude.  Cheesy

 Wink
legendary
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@theshmadz
December 31, 2013, 01:53:05 PM
#28


 how useless it is now.  Grin


Wrong on so many levels.  What's to stop them from hoping on a flight from Hong Kong to LA and selling the BTC for 5% less than market value to a whale investor?

No kidding Doc, it says in the article "The mine is the size of a shipping container," With that kind of density, what's to stop them from building a mine like that inside a shipping container? You could just pick up shop and go wherever you want. I'm sure it would be much lighter once it's drained of fluid for shipping.

Hell, here's a way for the military to fund itself, just place hundreds of these on an aircraft carrier (nuclear powered of course, you gonna need some serious juice Smiley and just float around in international waters... surrounded by the usual fleet of support vessels of course.

Hmm, a setup like that, if government decides to forcibly shut down and attack other farms and pools, and the gov't keeps mining on the bitcoin boat, that would likely be enough to perform the 51% attack.

Still, a mine in a seacan is a freakin' awesome idea, where do I pre-order?
legendary
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@theshmadz
December 31, 2013, 01:34:39 PM
#27
After China banned the Bitcoin, this miner can find his huge coin-sucker useless:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool

Do you fell any sorrow for him ?


He is not a miner, he is a journalist and it is not his mining farm.

the china rulings will not effect HK based businesses

I know he is a journalist  Cheesy
I asked about the owner of that mining installation. I have serious doubts that a common person can invest so much money or have so much technical expertise !
And like it or not, Hong Kong is part of China, so I expect that the Chinese ban of Bitcoin to be applied here too.

That bolded part is the top lulz of the thread Cheesy  That was the barb that really set the hook  Grin Kudos to the OP, made me smile.   Smiley
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yung lean
December 31, 2013, 11:31:06 AM
#26
op made me lol Tongue
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December 31, 2013, 11:25:13 AM
#25
Again, China didn't ban bitcoin, it made impossible for people to buy it and for institutions to invest, people can still go down in the street and trade bitcoin or any other cryptos. To be honest I think China will come back on bitcoin and it will make possible to buy and invest with very strict rules

As already said, HK is not China, have a look...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong


The price of BTC fell back as news came from China that government banks had begun blocking BTC transactions. This has put the currency’s Chinese future in danger in what had become its largest market.
It’s important to put this move in a regulatory context. Many banks in the US and other countries are leery of BTC transactions. Critics charge that this is because the financial industry believes BTC could replace it.
The difference between what’s happening in China and the way this has played out to date in the West is that US regulators haven’t banned Bitcoin altogether or levied special disclosure rules or other decisions against the currency. The SEC ordered Mt. Gox to follow the rules for a money service business (MSB).
China, on the other hand, has banned new third-party deposits altogether. It hasn’t banned the currency as such, but absent any new supply of coins from third-party systems, there’s no way for anyone to bring new BTC into the system. Customers are still able to purchase BTC with exchange-deposited funds, and can withdraw cash from exchanges to transfer back to their original bank accounts.

And my intention wasn't to start a flame China vs HK ! Don't Wikipedia on me, I don't like politics !  Smiley
I was just wondering about that mining installation, how useless it is now.  Grin


So your original post stated and I quote "China banned the Bitcoin" and you then indicate that people with the ability to mine do have the ability to sell their BTC.

So how exactly is the hardware in HK worthless?

Face it.  Your post isn't accurate.
newbie
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December 21, 2013, 11:38:51 AM
#24
basically, F2F and local exchanges are the way to go in China ?
legendary
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December 21, 2013, 11:09:19 AM
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However, OP does raise a valid point in general : what about the mining rigs which are setup in the mainland, now that Yuan deposits are forbidden and only withdrawals are allowed ?

The largest (and largest number of) meetups the BTC universe will ever see. 
newbie
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December 21, 2013, 06:15:32 AM
#22
OP clearly is trolling through his posts - HK and China have totally different legal frameworks and a legal order passed in China DOES NOT automatically apply in HK.
So ASICMiner`s datacenter in HK is safe.... for now Cheesy

However, OP does raise a valid point in general : what about the mining rigs which are setup in the mainland, now that Yuan deposits are forbidden and only withdrawals are allowed ?
Will this cause any sale of second hand Chinese rig hardware due to negative outlook for BTC in China?
What impact will this have on the medium to small scale rigs (not everyone is as large as ASICMiner right?)

Would appreciate comments from everyone, especially experienced forum members and of course,
members from China and HK.
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December 21, 2013, 12:25:15 AM
#21
Go do some actual research and then try again OP
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
December 20, 2013, 02:27:58 PM
#20
op is going on my ignore list
hero member
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December 20, 2013, 01:53:16 PM
#19
After China banned the Bitcoin, this miner can find his huge coin-sucker useless:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool

Do you fell any sorrow for him ?

How is he out of business, this is ASICMINER (Friedcats farm) that was paid for with investor and consumer money who have been buying his asic products since March. The guy is rolling in the coins, you have no clue.
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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom
December 19, 2013, 12:26:53 PM
#18
Again, China didn't ban bitcoin, it made impossible for people to buy it and for institutions to invest, people can still go down in the street and trade bitcoin or any other cryptos. To be honest I think China will come back on bitcoin and it will make possible to buy and invest with very strict rules

As already said, HK is not China, have a look...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong




And my intention wasn't to start a flame China vs HK ! Don't Wikipedia on me, I don't like politics !  Smiley
I was just wondering about that mining installation, how useless it is now.  Grin



Basically it is not useless now, as stated several times in this thread HK is not China.
China have made no ruling on mining bitcoin or producing hardware, they can mine and when they need to sell, do so another exchange...
sorry to say but your post was pointless and some simple research and rational thinking based on the current information available you could have figured it out.....
DrG
legendary
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December 19, 2013, 12:15:36 PM
#17
Again, China didn't ban bitcoin, it made impossible for people to buy it and for institutions to invest, people can still go down in the street and trade bitcoin or any other cryptos. To be honest I think China will come back on bitcoin and it will make possible to buy and invest with very strict rules

As already said, HK is not China, have a look...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong


The price of BTC fell back as news came from China that government banks had begun blocking BTC transactions. This has put the currency’s Chinese future in danger in what had become its largest market.
It’s important to put this move in a regulatory context. Many banks in the US and other countries are leery of BTC transactions. Critics charge that this is because the financial industry believes BTC could replace it.
The difference between what’s happening in China and the way this has played out to date in the West is that US regulators haven’t banned Bitcoin altogether or levied special disclosure rules or other decisions against the currency. The SEC ordered Mt. Gox to follow the rules for a money service business (MSB).
China, on the other hand, has banned new third-party deposits altogether. It hasn’t banned the currency as such, but absent any new supply of coins from third-party systems, there’s no way for anyone to bring new BTC into the system. Customers are still able to purchase BTC with exchange-deposited funds, and can withdraw cash from exchanges to transfer back to their original bank accounts.

And my intention wasn't to start a flame China vs HK ! Don't Wikipedia on me, I don't like politics !  Smiley
I was just wondering about that mining installation, how useless it is now.  Grin


Wrong on so many levels.  What's to stop them from hoping on a flight from Hong Kong to LA and selling the BTC for 5% less than market value to a whale investor?
hero member
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'All that glitters is not gold'
December 19, 2013, 11:49:50 AM
#16
Again, China didn't ban bitcoin, it made impossible for people to buy it and for institutions to invest, people can still go down in the street and trade bitcoin or any other cryptos. To be honest I think China will come back on bitcoin and it will make possible to buy and invest with very strict rules

As already said, HK is not China, have a look...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong


The price of BTC fell back as news came from China that government banks had begun blocking BTC transactions. This has put the currency’s Chinese future in danger in what had become its largest market.
It’s important to put this move in a regulatory context. Many banks in the US and other countries are leery of BTC transactions. Critics charge that this is because the financial industry believes BTC could replace it.
The difference between what’s happening in China and the way this has played out to date in the West is that US regulators haven’t banned Bitcoin altogether or levied special disclosure rules or other decisions against the currency. The SEC ordered Mt. Gox to follow the rules for a money service business (MSB).
China, on the other hand, has banned new third-party deposits altogether. It hasn’t banned the currency as such, but absent any new supply of coins from third-party systems, there’s no way for anyone to bring new BTC into the system. Customers are still able to purchase BTC with exchange-deposited funds, and can withdraw cash from exchanges to transfer back to their original bank accounts.

And my intention wasn't to start a flame China vs HK ! Don't Wikipedia on me, I don't like politics !  Smiley
I was just wondering about that mining installation, how useless it is now.  Grin
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einc.io
December 19, 2013, 11:26:22 AM
#15
After China banned the Bitcoin, this miner can find his huge coin-sucker useless:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool

Do you fell any sorrow for him ?

Do you even know how bitcoin works?

enlightens us  Smiley

To keep it simple.
Bitcoin is like a virus.
Once it got traction, it can't be stopped.
Almost everyone new to this virus will panic and sell when a pricedrop occurs and buy it later back at a higher price.
Untill you get to know this virus better, you will probably loose.
They will still mine in China and sell the coins over here like they always did before BTC China become the biggest exchange in the world by not accepting tradings fee.
Really smart marketings move from BTC China.
newbie
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December 19, 2013, 11:13:02 AM
#14
Again, China didn't ban bitcoin, it made impossible for people to buy it and for institutions to invest, people can still go down in the street and trade bitcoin or any other cryptos. To be honest I think China will come back on bitcoin and it will make possible to buy and invest with very strict rules

As already said, HK is not China, have a look...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
'All that glitters is not gold'
December 19, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
#13
After China banned the Bitcoin, this miner can find his huge coin-sucker useless:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5165428/bitcoin-mine-in-hong-kong-uses-jelly-to-keep-cool

Do you fell any sorrow for him ?

Do you even know how bitcoin works?

enlightens us  Smiley
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