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Topic: This is how bitcoin will turn the world into better place I believe! (Read 1928 times)

hero member
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Merit: 502
I believe we should not be spending for the sake of stimulating the economy. We should only spend what we need. The idea of spending in excess for the sake of maintaining a vibrant economy is short-sighted and fails to consider long term consequences.

To create a good, we need inputs like land, human capital, financial capital and natural resources. The more we spend, the more the demand of a good, the more the goods will be produced, the more the inputs will be consumed. Instead of having more factories, the land can be set aside as nature reserves for plants and animals to live in and humans to enjoy. The less the human capital is required, the less the motivation to increase human population, thus a less crowded planet. Financial capital can be channeled to more meaningful causes like helping our less fortunate fellow human beings. Using less natural resources means having more forests, a less polluted ocean and air, and less climate change.

The short term consequence is an upheaval in society caused by high unemployment rate which is unacceptable to governments. For the long-term sake of our planet and humanity however, the current trend of economic growth regardless of cost must be reviewed. Our children deserve a better environment.

Bitcoin is a step towards creating that vision. In the current state, bitcoin encourages savings, not spending.

It's like you're in my brain, man...Awesome post.

So bitcoin also promotes a greener world
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
I believe we should not be spending for the sake of stimulating the economy. We should only spend what we need. The idea of spending in excess for the sake of maintaining a vibrant economy is short-sighted and fails to consider long term consequences.

To create a good, we need inputs like land, human capital, financial capital and natural resources. The more we spend, the more the demand of a good, the more the goods will be produced, the more the inputs will be consumed. Instead of having more factories, the land can be set aside as nature reserves for plants and animals to live in and humans to enjoy. The less the human capital is required, the less the motivation to increase human population, thus a less crowded planet. Financial capital can be channeled to more meaningful causes like helping our less fortunate fellow human beings. Using less natural resources means having more forests, a less polluted ocean and air, and less climate change.

The short term consequence is an upheaval in society caused by high unemployment rate which is unacceptable to governments. For the long-term sake of our planet and humanity however, the current trend of economic growth regardless of cost must be reviewed. Our children deserve a better environment.

Bitcoin is a step towards creating that vision. In the current state, bitcoin encourages savings, not spending.

It's like you're in my brain, man...Awesome post.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I really like the way the future looks for bitcoin, but only time will tell. I think the price is pretty stable, and most people wont sell their bitcoin for less than they paid.
Even if they mined it, it took power, and or an investment. Thats my opinion anyway.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.

Of course, in sales, you go for the BIG goal. That way you just might get something.

Smiley

Yes, but sometimes going big allows you to make reckless decisions. Why do you think scammers scam?

You sold me. And you didn't even go for the big goal!

Smiley
I agree, it is good to shoot to be big, but you need to be reasonable.

World population is expected to be something over 9 billion by the year 2050. At that rate, what will the population be in 2140 when all the bitcoins have been mined? Let's guess that it might be 21 billion, just to make calculations easy. That means that on average there will be a thousandth of a bitcoin for each and every person on earth... if the bitcoins were spread out evenly, that is.

A $million per bitcoin isn't anything. Probably a $billion, and maybe a $trillion per bitcoin isn't big enough.

Smiley
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.

Of course, in sales, you go for the BIG goal. That way you just might get something.

Smiley

Yes, but sometimes going big allows you to make reckless decisions. Why do you think scammers scam?

You sold me. And you didn't even go for the big goal!

Smiley
I agree, it is good to shoot to be big, but you need to be reasonable.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
I believe we should not be spending for the sake of stimulating the economy. We should only spend what we need. The idea of spending in excess for the sake of maintaining a vibrant economy is short-sighted and fails to consider long term consequences.

To create a good, we need inputs like land, human capital, financial capital and natural resources. The more we spend, the more the demand of a good, the more the goods will be produced, the more the inputs will be consumed. Instead of having more factories, the land can be set aside as nature reserves for plants and animals to live in and humans to enjoy. The less the human capital is required, the less the motivation to increase human population, thus a less crowded planet. Financial capital can be channeled to more meaningful causes like helping our less fortunate fellow human beings. Using less natural resources means having more forests, a less polluted ocean and air, and less climate change.

The short term consequence is an upheaval in society caused by high unemployment rate which is unacceptable to governments. For the long-term sake of our planet and humanity however, the current trend of economic growth regardless of cost must be reviewed. Our children deserve a better environment.

Bitcoin is a step towards creating that vision. In the current state, bitcoin encourages savings, not spending.

The next thing to do is to use things like Mastercoin, Counterparty, and MaidSafe when it is ready, to actually tie the various commodities of life into binding contracts that sit on the Bitcoin blockchain.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1005
A deflationary economy will be a tragedy.

As stated, people think twice before spending, they are always expecting that prices will go down. That will contract aggregated demand and create a depression.

Besides, a deflationary economy means that if you borrow money you will have to pay interest, plus deflation, therefore it's very hard to invest, only very profitable investments would survive. That limits investment and without it the economy is dead.

I suppose you prefer that nonprofitable ventures get the scarce investment money.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
I believe we should not be spending for the sake of stimulating the economy. We should only spend what we need. The idea of spending in excess for the sake of maintaining a vibrant economy is short-sighted and fails to consider long term consequences.

To create a good, we need inputs like land, human capital, financial capital and natural resources. The more we spend, the more the demand of a good, the more the goods will be produced, the more the inputs will be consumed. Instead of having more factories, the land can be set aside as nature reserves for plants and animals to live in and humans to enjoy. The less the human capital is required, the less the motivation to increase human population, thus a less crowded planet. Financial capital can be channeled to more meaningful causes like helping our less fortunate fellow human beings. Using less natural resources means having more forests, a less polluted ocean and air, and less climate change.

The short term consequence is an upheaval in society caused by high unemployment rate which is unacceptable to governments. For the long-term sake of our planet and humanity however, the current trend of economic growth regardless of cost must be reviewed. Our children deserve a better environment.

Bitcoin is a step towards creating that vision. In the current state, bitcoin encourages savings, not spending.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.

Of course, in sales, you go for the BIG goal. That way you just might get something.

Smiley

Yes, but sometimes going big allows you to make reckless decisions. Why do you think scammers scam?

You sold me. And you didn't even go for the big goal!

Smiley
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.

Of course, in sales, you go for the BIG goal. That way you just might get something.

Smiley

Yes, but sometimes going big allows you to make reckless decisions. Why do you think scammers scam?
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
People forget one major thing about Bitcoin. Bitcoin doesn't have any mercy.

If you make a mistake using Bitcoin, you pay. That is point blank that.

If you happen to win in Bitcoin by accident, then the mercy part has to be yours.

Bitcoin is built on solid math. Math doesn't break. It doesn't even bend.

This isn't necessarily a bad idea. But it is something to keep in mind. You need to take responsibility for your life with Bitcoin. Bitcoin won't screw you like the banks do, but it doesn't have any mercy like the banks do at times either.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.

Of course, in sales, you go for the BIG goal. That way you just might get something.

Smiley
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
I get that optimism is important, but I'm so sick of people saying 'one million dollars' just like that when Bitcoin hasn't even hit a thousand dollars again yet. Can we go for a smaller goal, and then work our way up to a million? Even if we can get to one million.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
I've got to say, your premise does actually sound more like the worst nightmare straight out of a textbook about the perils of deflation  Undecided
People should be at least somewhat encouraged to spend their money and not only hold on tight to it!
full member
Activity: 653
Merit: 217
The sarcasm was great, pity the content hadn't the same quality.

Try to make an effort to avoid that your love for bitcoin blind you about the consequences to others of its general adoption. For instance, read: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoins-dystopian-future-180798
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 502
A deflationary economy will be a tragedy.

As stated, people think twice before spending, they are always expecting that prices will go down. That will contract aggregated demand and create a depression.

Besides, a deflationary economy means that if you borrow money you will have to pay interest, plus deflation, therefore it's very hard to invest, only very profitable investments would survive. That limits investment and without it the economy is dead.

Deflation is a bad thing with fiat currency. In a bit coin universe currency is constantly accumulating more purchasing power so people can spend less and have a higher standard of living. Back when the dollar was actually worth something people did not stop spending it.

An inflationary economy is a tragedy.  No one retires, and people die working.  More old people driving cars to get to work killing everyone else on the road.  Only old people are left and their dusty wombs cannot continue the human race.  Cockroaches and invasive plant species inherit the Earth.



member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
A deflationary economy will be a tragedy.

As stated, people think twice before spending, they are always expecting that prices will go down. That will contract aggregated demand and create a depression.

Besides, a deflationary economy means that if you borrow money you will have to pay interest, plus deflation, therefore it's very hard to invest, only very profitable investments would survive. That limits investment and without it the economy is dead.

Deflation is a bad thing with fiat currency. In a bit coin universe currency is constantly accumulating more purchasing power so people can spend less and have a higher standard of living. Back when the dollar was actually worth something people did not stop spending it.

An inflationary economy is a tragedy.  No one retires, and people die working.  More old people driving cars to get to work killing everyone else on the road.  Only old people are left and their dusty wombs cannot continue the human race.  Cockroaches and invasive plant species inherit the Earth.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
A deflationary economy will be a tragedy.

As stated, people think twice before spending, they are always expecting that prices will go down. That will contract aggregated demand and create a depression.

Besides, a deflationary economy means that if you borrow money you will have to pay interest, plus deflation, therefore it's very hard to invest, only very profitable investments would survive. That limits investment and without it the economy is dead.

Deflation is a bad thing with fiat currency. In a bit coin universe currency is constantly accumulating more purchasing power so people can spend less and have a higher standard of living. Back when the dollar was actually worth something people did not stop spending it.

Yeah right, and why would anyone invest their BTC (creating new products, services, jobs) instead of just holding and watching their BTC getting more purchasing power?
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Those merchants who offer lowest price will survive in the market.
This is the rule of extraction which is common for all types of economic system. And I can't understand why you decided to mention that. But if you want to talk about bitcoin future I must to admit that price competition will not be so tough according to bitcoin idea.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
★☆★Bitin.io★☆★
A deflationary economy will be a tragedy.

As stated, people think twice before spending, they are always expecting that prices will go down. That will contract aggregated demand and create a depression.

Besides, a deflationary economy means that if you borrow money you will have to pay interest, plus deflation, therefore it's very hard to invest, only very profitable investments would survive. That limits investment and without it the economy is dead.

Deflation is a bad thing with fiat currency. In a bit coin universe currency is constantly accumulating more purchasing power so people can spend less and have a higher standard of living. Back when the dollar was actually worth something people did not stop spending it.
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