To much money and power behind ETH to go to 0 along with the many die Hards. I could easily see it going back to IPO price though.
Wish I had some spare BTC to short it.
Topic: This is it, Eth is truly going to zero - page 2. (Read 4165 times)
It's a long term short, because I know where this thing is headed..down.. I can sustain a temporary rise. But I see your point.
Well if you can ride it out, short this shit to the ground.
Whatever it takes take get rid of this filthy pest on the altcoin community. 
New proposal for Ethereum logo:
I have a short position in on eth, and a hefty long position locked tight on Trump. Eth has been exposed and will end up where most exposed do, at 1 satoshi
I wouldn't even short this shit right now. Market manipulators could try to manipulate a rally and squeeze all the shorts into closing their positions at a loss, which could drive the price up further. Just let the miners dump this thing down to oblivion, until they can't profit anymore. Then the network can freeze and we can euthanize this shit.
Actually I don't know how Eth has managed to survive so far. But I suspect that its days are numbered and I don't think it can survive until the end of this year.
Beta ? LOL EPIC mETH head Retort Fail #378
BETA ahahahhahaha ..nice try NOOB
Hey here's an idea if it's beta then keep that scammy crap on TestNet and leave it off exchanges until it's production ready.
But i guess that hampers the whole ICO vaporware future "APP's" scheme coin platform Fuel Tokens profit deal
..launched in 2014 huh ?
I can't believe how big DAPPS are WOWOWeeee
Looks like Butters was correct the world was claiming for a Block-Chain based "App's" platform.
Or are going with smart contracts now ?
Me i just call it a "Not A Currency" scammy coin "Scheme"
..for profit
To 0 we go.. the faster the better (or should i say Beta ?)
BETA ahahahhahaha ..nice try NOOB
Hey here's an idea if it's beta then keep that scammy crap on TestNet and leave it off exchanges until it's production ready.
But i guess that hampers the whole ICO vaporware future "APP's" scheme coin platform Fuel Tokens profit deal
..launched in 2014 huh ?
I can't believe how big DAPPS are WOWOWeeee
Looks like Butters was correct the world was claiming for a Block-Chain based "App's" platform.
Or are going with smart contracts now ?
Me i just call it a "Not A Currency" scammy coin "Scheme"
..for profit
To 0 we go.. the faster the better (or should i say Beta ?)
There's not really a need. Users are at the risk of problems and solutions. You took my response out of context, but I appreciate the concern.
Beta ? LOL EPIC mETH head Retort Fail #378
BETA ahahahhahaha ..nice try NOOB
Hey here's an idea if it's beta then keep that scammy crap on TestNet and leave it off exchanges until it's production ready.
But i guess that hampers the whole ICO vaporware future "APP's" scheme coin platform Fuel Tokens profit deal
..launched in 2014 huh ?
I can't believe how big DAPPS are WOWOWeeee
Looks like Butters was correct the world was clamoring for a Block-Chain based "App's" platform.
Or are going with smart contracts now ?
Me i just call it a "Not A Currency" scammy coin "Scheme"
..for profit
To 0 we go.. the faster the better (or should i say Beta ?)
BETA ahahahhahaha ..nice try NOOB
Hey here's an idea if it's beta then keep that scammy crap on TestNet and leave it off exchanges until it's production ready.
But i guess that hampers the whole ICO vaporware future "APP's" scheme coin platform Fuel Tokens profit deal
..launched in 2014 huh ?
I can't believe how big DAPPS are WOWOWeeee
Looks like Butters was correct the world was clamoring for a Block-Chain based "App's" platform.
Or are going with smart contracts now ?
Me i just call it a "Not A Currency" scammy coin "Scheme"
..for profit
To 0 we go.. the faster the better (or should i say Beta ?)
Useless or not, Eth is still in beta, all of the HF whining is nonsense.
Everything is still 'in beta', and no the "HF whining" is most definitely not nonsense.Because when you compare a bicycle to an air-independent propulsion system it's the same thing right. Ah, doesn't matter if the tires are a little flat, just hop on go right? Your bicycle's beta and my beta are pretty much the same so let's just generalize them together.
Vegetablepin , they know that, but thats what daytraders do. When they see an opportunity to buy cheap, preferably cheaper, they FUD, make some profit and start again. Nothing really changed since after the drain of a portion of the ether invested in dao, and exchanges are doing the logical thing there is to do, nothing weird. But the fudders have to make it look like an apocalypse because that is their job.
THIS.
So Litecoin on coinbase, right?
you are just as speculative , only on the retarded side , HAVE FUN!!!!
if this will be the case then i totally agree with you, considering many of the team have invested themselves loads of money in this DAO it would only show that somebody interests are > than blockchain immutability
They were talking about it all the time, for both ETH and DAO. There is no room for a bailout like this in a decentralized system that is governed by code. It would only be fair if they would publicly renounce their claims.i would not compare MtGox with DAO attack, my opinion about the first one is that there was no bug, just a greedy admin
The same option stands for the DAO creators, they might have snuck in this exploit on purpose. That's just speculative talk, since we can't know for sure.Useless or not, Eth is still in beta, all of the HF whining is nonsense.
Everything is still 'in beta', and no the "HF whining" is most definitely not nonsense.Vegetablepin , they know that, but thats what daytraders do. When they see an opportunity to buy cheap, preferably cheaper, they FUD, make some profit and start again.
It is only FUD is we are talking about deceptive information, which is not the case here.
Vegetablepin , they know that, but thats what daytraders do. When they see an opportunity to buy cheap, preferably cheaper, they FUD, make some profit and start again. Nothing really changed since after the drain of a portion of the ether invested in dao, and exchanges are doing the logical thing there is to do, nothing weird. But the fudders have to make it look like an apocalypse because that is their job.
Useless or not, Eth is still in beta, all of the HF whining is nonsense.
ETH was all about "code is law" and other nonsense (that is now being thrown into a garbage can) and yet they're trying to manipulate the coin balances directly.
if this will be the case then i totally agree with you, considering many of the team have invested themselves loads of money in this DAO it would only show that somebody interests are > than blockchain immutability
but if they only care of fixing the bug and give the users/miners the possibility to choose about the path to follow and the funds to be saved (link), then i find it reasonable and in line with a decentralized project. you cannot assume that code is 100% perfect at first release and incidents like this are needed to even understand how to make it better.
i would not compare MtGox with DAO attack, my opinion about the first one is that there was no bug, just a greedy admin
not sure if VB but for sure someone from the ETH team asked exchanges to halt deposit and withdrawals, that's reasonable if you suspect there is some fork going on (remember was in early stage of the attack, they didn't know the causes yet)
They were well aware of what was going on at the time. destroying immutability? in this case we talk about a bug in the code with consequent theft. to mutate a chain in order to fix a bug is not destroying immutability but making it stronger looking forward to the future.
I don't think that you understand what immutability actually means. ETH was all about "code is law" and other nonsense (that is now being thrown into a garbage can) and yet they're trying to manipulate the coin balances directly. The losses created by the bug are trivial and well deserved because fools have put a ton of money in a single DAO (remember: "don't put all your eggs in one basket"). Comparable scenarios in Bitcoin that I can think of:
Mt.Gox theft (which was also presumably based on a exploit) - The chain was not rewritten.
Sidechain bug (in the future) - Bitcoin's blockchain will not be rewritten.
So tell me again how V.B. didn't get the exchanges to stop trading in order to avoid panic? This is not how a decentralized system should work. Regardless of when you decide to fork, if you impose coin control or blacklisting, you are going to destroy the immutability. What they plan to do is essentially a rewrite of the blockchain - ergo the chain is mutable.
not sure if VB but for sure someone from the ETH team asked exchanges to halt deposit and withdrawals, that's reasonable if you suspect there is some fork going on (remember was in early stage of the attack, they didn't know the causes yet)
then, you can be VB or Satoshi, you can scream all over internet about stopping to mine/trade ETH but if you don't convince the majority you don't get a change: this is how decentralized system work.
destroying immutability? in this case we talk about a bug in the code with consequent theft. to mutate a chain in order to fix a bug is not destroying immutability but making it stronger looking forward to the future.
but i repeat, this is the way i see it, sitting on my beach and drinking a cocktail without any ETH in my portfolio
time will tell which values were important , mr cluefull
This is what happens when you're fueled by greed. Aside from potential profit, there is zero reason for someone to stay near ETH.Have to agree with you here, I was surprised when they even considered doing this it really does make a mockery of what it is all about in the crypto world.
I don't think that the majority of the users understand the intrinsic values of the blockchain. Andreas A. has some good talks about this.This is centralized planning and destruction of immutability of such a chain
i hear this kind of point only by bitcoin hooligans and suchin my opinion the ethereum team is doing everything possible to avoid a "destruction of immutability", if you think about it they didn't fork the next day of the attack, they are open to technical suggestions and they do not lead a proposal but leave the choice to users.
This is centralized planning and destruction of immutability of such a chain
i hear this kind of point only by bitcoin hooligans and such
in this situation i'm just an observer refilled with popcorn (so please, don't call me ETH shill once again),
in my opinion the ethereum team is doing everything possible to avoid a "destruction of immutability", if you think about it they didn't fork the next day of the attack, they are open to technical suggestions and they do not lead a proposal but leave the choice to users.
the problem is that most of the people are just able to write some lame ass post on here or reddit instead of studying and proposing the right patch and so they feel cut out from the process... that is happening right now
Before Eth goes to zero (could happen), r0ach will hopefully be able to go to anything other than zero
he's been sitting at zero intellect for way too long
~CfA~
he's been sitting at zero intellect for way too long
~CfA~
Hey now.. you only get 1 more of those LOL
He's my FUD buddy
At least when he ain't hawking Monero hahahah
I just wanted to say with a mini-rant.. (Patent Pending)
I agree with Lauda's various comments on the DAO last week(s) (he summed it up pretty good best i can tell)
Sometimes we agree & sometimes we don't and that applies to all of you
$ 10.16 (-11.79 %)
I see..
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/
I am not a huge fan of trying to tell people what to do with their money.
But be careful !
Trying to be a longer term investor in a coin project when surrounded by greedy profiteers
is a recipe for disaster or long term delusional bag holding
One day.. one day.. i swear those NameCoin's will be worth $10 each i mean it !!!111
Meanwhile, you could have made more leaving your money in a savings account at the bank
Looks like who ever kept pushing it back to $12 is gone.. new wall at $10 ?
Or has Butterin left the Building ? hahahha
He told you all he already cached out 25% of his "holdings" i think he said..
So the rest is probably all gravy for him.. ETH made him rich !
Kinda funny because who knew he was a MILLIONAIRE BEFORE Ethereum ?
So.. he probably would have no problem dumping on ETH hard.. AGAIN
..just chant moar cheap coinz nom nom nom
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