This is not fair, LFC_Bitcoin - page 2.

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Quote from: unibitcoinist on June 19, 2019, 07:29:18 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 19, 2019, 07:26:02 AM

In fairness though I don’t know why you felt so compelled to fight his case?
It didn’t really have anything to do with you.

Why will anyone carry an inappropriate feedback?

I don’t think anybody leaving negative feedback against a poster who’s after a non collateral loan with 0 positive trust & trade feedback can be seen as inappropriate.

See this -

If you think it’s inappropriate & he’s not seen as high risk maybe you could lend him the money without collateral?

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 19, 2019, 07:26:02 AM

In fairness though I don’t know why you felt so compelled to fight his case?
It didn’t really have anything to do with you.

Why will anyone carry an inappropriate feedback?

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Quote from: unibitcoinist on June 19, 2019, 07:21:39 AM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 19, 2019, 07:14:39 AM

Not very impressed that you started a thread questioning my actions, I’ve had to argue & fight my point against a load of spammers, shit posters & trolls.

It seems you now agree with what I did.

Ridiculous if you don’t mind me saying so.

If I wouldn't create this thread, I wouldn't get the point referred by actmyname and Pamoldar and would still have the same thought that the feedback was unfair Wink

In fairness though I don’t know why you felt so compelled to fight his case?
It didn’t really have anything to do with you.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 19, 2019, 07:14:39 AM

Not very impressed that you started a thread questioning my actions, I’ve had to argue & fight my point against a load of spammers, shit posters & trolls.

It seems you now agree with what I did.

Ridiculous if you don’t mind me saying so.

If I wouldn't create this thread, I wouldn't get the point referred by actmyname and Pamoldar and would still have the same thought that the feedback was unfair Wink

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Quote from: unibitcoinist on June 19, 2019, 07:10:03 AM

Thank you actmyname and Pamoldar, both of you have brought a good point here.
Considering his earlier twice loan application and the post which refers that he is holding his crypto earning from the forum, I think as well that it was probably a scam attempt.

Sorry @LFC_Bitcoin, although you didn't consider the fact referred by actmyname and Pamoldar, I think the tag must not be removed. I will tag the user as well. His recent behavior is fishy enough which I didn't notice.

There was not any kind of personal attack or any kind of propaganda some of you have mentioned. I initially thought it was an abuse of the feedback/trust system since he was a hero member.

@marlboroza
I never said he wasn't a scammer or a hero/legendary can't be a sacmmer. You have referred some example where the amount is higher than the one in this case. I just have wanted to point out that this feedback was probably an unfair one which has now turned into wrong though.

Not very impressed that you started a thread questioning my actions, I’ve had to argue & fight my point against a load of spammers, shit posters & trolls.

It seems you now agree with what I did.

Ridiculous if you don’t mind me saying so.

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Thank you actmyname and Pamoldar, both of you have brought a good point here.
Considering his earlier twice loan application and the post which refers that he is holding his crypto earning from the forum, I think as well that it was probably a scam attempt.

Sorry @LFC_Bitcoin, although you didn't consider the fact referred by actmyname and Pamoldar, I think the tag must not be removed. I will tag the user as well. His recent behavior is fishy enough which I didn't notice.

There was not any kind of personal attack or any kind of propaganda some of you have mentioned. I initially thought it was an abuse of the feedback/trust system since he was a hero member.

@marlboroza
I never said he wasn't a scammer or a hero/legendary can't be a sacmmer. You have referred some example where the amount is higher than the one in this case. I just have wanted to point out that this feedback was probably an unfair one which has now turned into wrong though.

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As mentioned, the criteria for leaving a negative rating has been changed to "You think that trading with this person is high-risk." If LFC_Bitcoin believes that asking for a no collateral loan makes someone high risk, then he is justified to leave a negative rating. Less senior accounts are tagged left, right, and center for the exact same behavior every day.

Is it too harsh? Maybe. But is it an inappropriate tag? No.

As an aside, the sticky at the top of lending states:

Quote from: DiamondCardz on April 20, 2014, 09:40:54 AM

If you completely ignore this sticky and make a loan request with no collateral, without having massive trust on the forum, the chances of you getting negative trusted feedback and therefore having a Trade with Extreme Caution tag is almost 100%.

Quote from: suchmoon on June 18, 2019, 02:47:03 PM

Edit: oh shut up bones with your 1 minute 25 seconds faster post.

You're too busy baking cookies. Wink

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 19, 2019, 03:12:30 AM

...snip...0.05BTC is a lot of money ($458.7 @$9,187).

With absolutely no punishment for not repaying. I was thinking about changing my tag to neutral but I’m not going to.

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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

He is wearing OneHash signature who are paying 0.0075BTC a week to the Hero member but upon checking their spreadsheet I found he has not accepted but yet he is wearing the sig.

Is this for misdirection? Like anyone can think it will be okay to lend him since he is with a decent paying signature campaign.

Not sure if I personally would consider a red or neutral but I can assure that if I was a lender then I would stay away from this loan request.

0.05BTC is a lot of money ($458.7 @$9,187).

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After a lucky page surf, here's what I've found:

Quote from: zazarb on April 11, 2019, 05:04:06 AM

Quote from: susila_bai on April 11, 2019, 02:21:49 AM

Quote from: susila_bai on April 08, 2019, 03:19:52 AM

First Time applying for loan due to some personal problem

Loan Amount: 0.03 btc
Reason : Personal
Repayment Amount: 0.036 btc
Repayment Time: 15 days
Collateral : None
BTC address: 0x931d262FB923630A65e3DCfFEF03f2B3d6b72271

Please can i know the status of my Loan Application whether i am eligible for this loan, if yes then i will put the sign message from the wallet

Sorry, without collateral I can’t help, also check your btc address- it’s not btc.

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Quote from: susila_bai on April 13, 2019, 01:41:28 AM

Quote from: susila_bai on April 11, 2019, 10:19:06 AM

Loan Amount: 0.03 btc
Loan Repayment Amount: 0.036 btc
Loan Repayment Date: 15 days
Collateral: none
Bitcoin Address: 1Jx7LFDLnehLiZKux1wHEhgWDdtAEzmE2q

Due to personal problem applying for loan

HI, can i know the status of my loan application,

If you can provide a valid collateral I can fill your loan request, I can't grant you no collateral loan because of your account status, sorry. Let me know if you have collateral to offer.

Two previous loan requests from two months prior.

Quote from: susila_bai on April 20, 2019, 05:24:39 AM

It is always good to have the real life Job and not to depend fully on Bitcoin or this forum, as both are necessary in life and what if bitcoin got ban totally or the price goes down and it takes longer time to recover. so it is always good to have alternative options always.

I work in real life and also do cryptocurrency investments and work for it and earn. As real life pay runs my family life and what ever i am earning in crypto currency is a investment for my future and may family future also.

I'm not sure if LFC considered any of these as red flags when they were writing their feedback... but now here they are.

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Get your game girl

With all respect, I disagree with the Feedback left on the profile. Maybe a suggestion to lock to thread or asking reasons why they should be considered for a no-collateral loan could be done before tagging them. It makes sense to tag newbie throwaway accounts that come up with ridiculous requests but a genuine Hero member should be reviewed unless they have something shady going on with the account.

I'm just curious if I open a no-collateral loan request for 0.05 BTC will I be tagged as well?

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Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on June 18, 2019, 04:29:56 PM

LFC_Bitcoin did the right thing, the wrong thing here is done by the DT bullshit propaganda lobby that give people negatives for no reason in the name of the so called "saving the forum" while they are digging the forum grave.

The flags were a great move by theymos which these bullshit propaganda lobby of course do not like.

I understand that you are butthurt because your account is still connected to scammerz accounts, you self vouched for payed gambling tips, lied and, to use timelord's words, "advocated physical violence", but why do you think LFC did the right thing? We posted our reasons why we agree or don't agree but I don't see yours, and at this moment your point looks like this:

Quote from: BitcoinSupremo on June 18, 2019, 04:29:56 PM

LFC_Bitcoin did the right thing

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LFC_Bitcoin did the right thing, the wrong thing here is done by the DT bullshit propaganda lobby that give people negatives for no reason in the name of the so called "saving the forum" while they are digging the forum grave.

The flags were a great move by theymos which these bullshit propaganda lobby of course do not like.

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 18, 2019, 03:41:13 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 18, 2019, 03:25:11 PM

I didn’t leave a flag so I’m not sure why people are getting bent out of shape.

Well, we can't let this new flag system diminish the need for drama, can we now...

I'm expecting bitching over neutrals to start soon, I mean they're shown in this ominous black color with "=", which is obviously twice as bad as "-".

Look at the gang of degenerates moaning about my neg too when it has literally nothing to do with them.
Definite virgins

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 18, 2019, 03:25:11 PM

I didn’t leave a flag so I’m not sure why people are getting bent out of shape.

Well, we can't let this new flag system diminish the need for drama, can we now...

I'm expecting bitching over neutrals to start soon, I mean they're shown in this ominous black color with "=", which is obviously twice as bad as "-".

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LingerieFanClub tends to get his panties in a bunch very often. Anyone even surprised lol? Grin

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I chose to warn potential lenders who may not be aware that no collateral loans are red flags. It is my opinion that asking for 0.05BTC (over $450 at the time of writing) with no collateral is shady.

My negative trust won’t affect the guy who was trying to get the loan from doing business here in the future. He can use escrow or if it’s loan related he can do what he’s supposed to do - offer valid collateral.

As for QS questioning anything I do regarding leaving trust ratings - You lost your right to enter a valid discussion like this when you self escrowed deal. Pipe down scammer.

I didn’t leave a flag so I’m not sure why people are getting bent out of shape. Various DT’s have been following this practise for years.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 18, 2019, 02:00:37 PM

100% inappropriate. The OP of the thread is not posting from a newbie account/throwaway account.
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He may it may not be untrustworthy for other reasons but the loan request is not appropriate.

Don't listen to QS, he thinks providing no collateral loan to account who doesn't have any trading history is not highly risky:

Quote from: unibitcoinist on June 18, 2019, 01:35:42 PM

He is not a newbie, he is a hero member.

Oh, hero member can't scam, that must be it. Probably senior member can't scam, legendary member can't scam and probably other ranks can't scam too.

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Quote from: The-One-Above-All on June 18, 2019, 02:41:47 PM

Not strictly true. You WILL GET A HUGE BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE saying more or less that you ARE PRESUMED A SCAMMER to persons up to member level and if you are not logged in.

So yes he just got branded a scammer pretty much.

False. That's the second time today you're failing to read how it works, even after it's been explicitly quoted for you:

Quote from: theymos on June 12, 2019, 10:25:14 PM

Some changes:
- If the number of pre-flags-system negative trust ratings is greater than the number of all positive trust ratings, a warning banner is shown for guests & low-login-time newbies.

(emphasis mine)

Edit: oh shut up bones with your 1 minute 25 seconds faster post... robbed me of an opportunity to yell at CH

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Quote from: The-One-Above-All on June 18, 2019, 02:41:47 PM

Not strictly true. You WILL GET A HUGE BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE saying more or less that you ARE PRESUMED A SCAMMER to persons up to member level and if you are not logged in.

So yes he just got branded a scammer pretty much.

No, the huge red banner is only triggered by old feedback. New feedback does not do anything to trigger the banner. I made an archive of the thread in question. http://archive.vn/tjkB9 (When I use the archive website, it always displays what a user will see if they are not online.)The user has no banner.

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