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Topic: This is the magnificent bitcoin gem - page 6. (Read 16653 times)

legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
January 30, 2013, 12:46:44 PM
#64
Awesome!  Grin
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
January 30, 2013, 12:39:05 PM
#63
Good idea. I guess I leave the gem as is for some rounds and see how it does, might implement your idea later.

At the start of each new round (when someone has lost), you should randomize the starting price and the reset chance for that round.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
January 30, 2013, 12:33:11 PM
#62
The gems odds are better than at Satoshi Dice (10% return at 93.75% winning change ) plus you can place your link.
But of course Satohsi Dice operates with 0 confirmations, that's a big plus there.

It's a gem, it cannot disappear with a 7% chance every time.
What's the difference between this and satoshidice?

However thank you for what you did.
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
January 30, 2013, 12:28:39 PM
#61
Bitcoin gem, version 1: the aftermath

Some of you might have seen the price of the bitcoin gem skyrocketing to 126 bitcoins 2 days ago. This first version of the bitcoin gem had a vicious flaw: there was no exit point. The price just went up and up and I did not want to produce a really big loser at the the end of the chain.

That's why I stepped in, refunded the last 2 buyers and took down the website. Some say that was the dumbest move ever since I could have made a really big cut here. But it just did not feel right for me.


Good man.


Bitcoin gem, version 2


But... That doesn't sound fun. Smiley

It's a gem, it cannot disappear with a 7% chance every time.
What's the difference between this and satoshidice?
However thank you for what you did.

This, this and this.
member
Activity: 105
Merit: 10
January 30, 2013, 12:27:38 PM
#60
At the start of each new round (when someone has lost), you should randomize the starting price and the reset chance for that round.

That's an awesome idea!
administrator
Activity: 5222
Merit: 13032
January 30, 2013, 12:27:14 PM
#59
At the start of each new round (when someone has lost), you should randomize the starting price and the reset chance for that round.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
January 30, 2013, 12:26:58 PM
#58
It's a gem, it cannot disappear with a 7% chance every time.
What's the difference between this and satoshidice?

However thank you for what you did.
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
January 30, 2013, 12:14:41 PM
#57
Bitcoin gem, version 1: the aftermath

Some of you might have seen the price of the bitcoin gem skyrocketing to 126 bitcoins 2 days ago. This first version of the bitcoin gem had a vicious flaw: there was no exit point. The price just went up and up and I did not want to produce a really big loser at the the end of the chain. That's why I stepped in, refunded the last 2 buyers and took down the website. Some say that was the dumbest move ever since I could have made a really big cut here. But it just did not feel right for me.

Of course, I would have loved to see how far the gem would go, especially since there was so much traffic coming in. Would it reach 500? 1,000? 10,000? Some of you suspected that 126 btc was the end of the line and that people wouldn't want to buy any more. I'd say it was just the other way round. Traffic to the site was about to explode and I guess the price would have exploded too. But I'm really happy that I could stop the gem at this point.

Bitcoin gem, version 2

I then thought about how I could eliminate the problem of runaway prices. Some suggested a upper limit, but I guess a hard limit just would not work because the closer the limit gets, the less people would still buy. So I implemented a random reset of the gem, the odds for a reset are 6.25%. Basically, any purchase can trigger a reset and can put the gems price back to the start. I also raised the profit for buyers (10%) and lowered the house edge (2%). This means you can make a 10% profit with winning odds of 93.75%.

So unless version 1 of the gem (where there was only one biiiiig loser), the new gem on average makes 15 winners and 1 loser. That feels much better for me. In the end, I'd like this to be a fun game.

I just reopened the bitcoin gem at http://www.bitcoingem.com. Your comments and suggestions are, as always, welcome.
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
January 29, 2013, 09:52:36 AM
#55
He's a good and honest guy. Rep ++ in my books.  Wink

Maybe.

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Check back tomorrow. The gem is coming back.

 Wink
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
January 29, 2013, 09:42:52 AM
#54
Looks like that they closed the website and refunded everything. A 1000$ lost for the owner, he deserves some kind of recognition at least.

That was... Unexpected.

I still don't get it.

Smiley
He's a good and honest guy. Rep ++ in my books.  Wink
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
January 29, 2013, 06:25:16 AM
#53
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Even more stupid that pirates hyip.
This is the best thing I've ever seen on bitcointalk.

We are not all scammers and trollers and spammers and drugs addicted. The OP showed that there is some good in us.

No it shows how blindly greedy the folks here are that's the stupidity not that OP could have run for the hills.

Or maybe it just shows that a market for GLBSE still exists, if anyone actually wants it.
member
Activity: 107
Merit: 10
January 29, 2013, 05:17:00 AM
#52
That was pretty sudden. Although I didn't expect the price to rise above 100BTC THIS fast.

I'm wondering if maxmint was getting a threat from BFL, because of that one dodgy message
legendary
Activity: 1458
Merit: 1006
January 29, 2013, 04:18:17 AM
#51
Looks like that they closed the website and refunded everything. A 1000$ lost for the owner, he deserves some kind of recognition at least.

That was... Unexpected.

I still don't get it.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
January 29, 2013, 01:53:24 AM
#50
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Even more stupid that pirates hyip.
This is the best thing I've ever seen on bitcointalk.

We are not all scammers and trollers and spammers and drugs addicted. The OP showed that there is some good in us.

No it shows how blindly greedy the folks here are that's the stupidity not that OP could have run for the hills.
I thought you where talking about the fact the the website is now closed, sorry.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
January 29, 2013, 01:49:48 AM
#49
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Even more stupid that pirates hyip.
This is the best thing I've ever seen on bitcointalk.

We are not all scammers and trollers and spammers and drugs addicted. The OP showed that there is some good in us.

No it shows how blindly greedy the folks here are that's the stupidity not that OP could have run for the hills.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
January 29, 2013, 01:47:42 AM
#48
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Even more stupid that pirates hyip.
This is the best thing I've ever seen on bitcointalk.

We are not all scammers and trollers and spammers and drugs addicted. The OP showed that there is some good in us.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
January 29, 2013, 01:46:59 AM
#47
I don't understand why closed... Is a really profitable scheme :S, I miss something?
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1057
Marketing manager - GO MP
January 29, 2013, 01:44:57 AM
#46
This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
January 29, 2013, 01:41:26 AM
#45
Looks like that they closed the website and refunded everything. A 1000$ lost for the owner, he deserves some kind of recognition at least.

What can we do for him?
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