$100 million dollars investment may not be termed as manipulation, we have so many people in this planet that are filthy rich and can even invest up to $500 million dollars in a single investment, it could have been coordinated in more than 1 exchange because each exchange also have limit to which they allow too at once.
Imagine we have about 1000 of these people who would choose Bitcoin as the safest way to keep their money anonymous without any intention of dumping it, what do you think will happen ?
No matter the amount of dumping from our small investment, it will have no major effect on the value of BTC. Whales buy more than 20000 BTC at ones, the recent spike that happens made the total Market cap witness extra $21 billion dollars wherein Bitcoin holds more that 60% of it, you can now see that that amount is quite small to be associated with manipulation.
Topic: This PROVES market manipulation, 20,000 BTC order at same time on 3 exchanges! - page 2. (Read 563 times)
April 06, 2019, 02:54:37 PM
April 06, 2019, 11:16:39 AM
I believe that the current bitcoin pump is the result of manipulation. Some big players have been playing with the market for their own sake. I think that we have to be extra vigilant so that we can't fall prey to their traps.
April 06, 2019, 08:34:19 AM
I'm not surprised with this (if this is true) to be honest because I know that the market has been manipulated by the institutions and rich people for many years already.
To the OP, would you please share more information like screenshots so that we will believe in what you posted here
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To the OP, would you please share more information like screenshots so that we will believe in what you posted here
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April 06, 2019, 03:49:03 AM
I thought it's a serious thread, but I'm disappointed with jokes from OP.
If you are not going to share information, why make this thread in the first place, I don't see any sense here.
If you are not going to share information, why make this thread in the first place, I don't see any sense here.
April 05, 2019, 07:24:10 PM
Wise person to buy inn and expect more benefit then selling off and try to buy cheaper back. Now lets hope he/she holds and see if some more big boys/girls follow this route ; )
April 05, 2019, 07:11:46 PM
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Anyway OP, why do you think the whale would even bother to contact you before his trades. Its nice to wish to though
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Who wouldn't like some profits on his trades.
Anyway OP, why do you think the whale would even bother to contact you before his trades. Its nice to wish to though
.Who wouldn't like some profits on his trades.
This somewhat bothers me, OP trying to tell us whales again manipulating the market without hard evidence. And yet in the end of the post telling us he knows better information than us and will profit a lot of money and never tell us? Come on, share us some of your profitable strategies that we may gain some.
All I ask is that these market manipulators PM me and let me know which coin to buy before they pump it, and when to dump it. I'm not going to share the information with anyone, that wouldn't be good for my profits! Thanks!
@kaya11 You misunderstood what OP is trying to say at the end of his post
OP wants whales to tell him before hands so he can also make some profits
and about evidence (or sign) on market manipulation, there two replies (on page 1) with links to article you can read up
April 05, 2019, 09:31:07 AM
That doesn't mean it's manipulation. It could be someone or a group of investors with a lot of money looking to get into bitcoin--stock market traders make large trades all the time, and they're not necessarily manipulating the market as in a pump & dump scheme. I think a lot of people on this forum don't know what the word manipulation actually means, just like they don't know what a real pump & dump means. It's just a word that gets thrown around when big trades start to happen.
In addition to that, I'm not confident a 60,000 bitcoin trade, even if it got filled all at once, would have a dramatic effect on bitcoin's price. Yes, that's a ton of money but you'd have to be very certain that such a trade would bump the price up in order to take advantage of it, which it might not. So I doubt someone is actually making the trade with manipulative intentions.
Nice to see this, IMO. The more people jumping into the market, the better.
In addition to that, I'm not confident a 60,000 bitcoin trade, even if it got filled all at once, would have a dramatic effect on bitcoin's price. Yes, that's a ton of money but you'd have to be very certain that such a trade would bump the price up in order to take advantage of it, which it might not. So I doubt someone is actually making the trade with manipulative intentions.
Nice to see this, IMO. The more people jumping into the market, the better.
April 05, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
If this is true I think that it is clear to us that the whole market is able to be manipulated by people. What if the beginners wanted to enter the market but, they'll be knowing that the market they'll try can be manipulated?
April 05, 2019, 07:31:44 AM
This is where I'm quite baffled, about how much was needed really to push the price to where it is right now and who did the said market stimulation. Anyways, the movement seemed to have cemented quite a following on its way up, and support levels are being nicely placed in $4500 and $4300 respectively on the exchange that I'm working at. Perhaps this will be the start of a beautiful spring - summer season for bitcoin, as was the case for previous runs, too.
So this means that money worth 20k BTC is required to increase bitcoin's price by $1000 . That's a shit load of money. The one who is doing this is definitely a huge whale but I wonder if he is a single person or a group who must be doing it.Anyway OP, why do you think the whale would even bother to contact you before his trades. Its nice to wish to though
.Who wouldn't like some profits on his trades.
This somewhat bothers me, OP trying to tell us whales again manipulating the market without hard evidence. And yet in the end of the post telling us he knows better information than us and will profit a lot of money and never tell us? Come on, share us some of your profitable strategies that we may gain some.
April 04, 2019, 10:50:45 PM
This is where I'm quite baffled, about how much was needed really to push the price to where it is right now and who did the said market stimulation. Anyways, the movement seemed to have cemented quite a following on its way up, and support levels are being nicely placed in $4500 and $4300 respectively on the exchange that I'm working at. Perhaps this will be the start of a beautiful spring - summer season for bitcoin, as was the case for previous runs, too.
So this means that money worth 20k BTC is required to increase bitcoin's price by $1000 . That's a shit load of money. The one who is doing this is definitely a huge whale but I wonder if he is a single person or a group who must be doing it.Anyway OP, why do you think the whale would even bother to contact you before his trades. Its nice to wish to though
.Who wouldn't like some profits on his trades.
April 04, 2019, 10:21:22 PM
I think this is a move by the whales or a single whale in crypto. If I think someone confirms this and send a screenshot on how they play, we can see that this could be a trap by the whales. OP must send us:
During my research as saw this article.
The exchanges mentioned are: Kraken, Coinbase and Bitstamp. The article includes that that this is the craziest 5 minute chart they've seen. I think it's a trap. We've just been hyped.
- The screenshot of the orders.
- The exchange used by the whale.
During my research as saw this article.
The exchanges mentioned are: Kraken, Coinbase and Bitstamp. The article includes that that this is the craziest 5 minute chart they've seen. I think it's a trap. We've just been hyped.
April 04, 2019, 10:02:49 PM
20,000btc is a huge order. And to think it happened on three different exchanges at the same time gives us 60,000. Whoever did that must have a deep pocket to make such a coordination. I won't call it manipulation because it's an order placed in the open and not some sort of hidden deal. Whatever the motif should be sustained. We need the bulls.
Incorrect. It was 20,000 BTC spread across 3 exchanges, or around 7,000 BTC per exchange. Not 60,000 BTC.
April 04, 2019, 09:46:01 PM
20,000btc is a huge order. And to think it happened on three different exchanges at the same time gives us 60,000. Whoever did that must have a deep pocket to make such a coordination. I won't call it manipulation because it's an order placed in the open and not some sort of hidden deal. Whatever the motif should be sustained. We need the bulls.
Incorrect. It was 20,000 BTC spread across 3 exchanges, or around 7,000 BTC per exchange. Not 60,000 BTC.
April 04, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
There are many explanations like an institution buying or a pump group of some rich bored guys who wanted to make some money or maybe it was a single billionaire? The market is so small that one of those Saudi princes would be able to bring us back above 6000 single handedly. It doesn't have to be manipulation. Maybe they saw an opportunity here?
April 04, 2019, 04:29:34 PM
As we saw yesterday, someone coordinated a 20,000 BTC buy across 3 exchanges all at the same time.
Could you post a Screen Shot of this? This is the only time that I heard this kind of news.
And if you talking of 20,000 BTC on 3 different exchanges then that's 60,000 BTC, with 1 BTC @ $4K
You are talking of $240 million not $100 million.
April 04, 2019, 04:21:39 PM
If this is manipulation then we would able to see pump and dump and going to the price of 5300 would go back to the path of 4100 once again but
as we can see we are playing something around 4800-5000 which is pretty good to look at yet we are already stabilizing on these levels or do see some
progress or gradual increase.
as we can see we are playing something around 4800-5000 which is pretty good to look at yet we are already stabilizing on these levels or do see some
progress or gradual increase.
April 04, 2019, 03:53:24 PM
Yes, I also strongly agree that this is no longer an open secret because here everyone knows that and the point is that the increase for now has a problem between the natural bull market and the manipulation of a group of people, for fast movement there is the possibility of large purchases or people buying simultaneously and indeed it is their right, we cannot limit without being based on any authority because this is a free market, strongly agree that everyone who is here if they have a lot of money and can also make large purchases, I only see the mind crazy people will be a big advantage.
April 04, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
This guy could be the culprit. Drop him a message
https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/1113003376353128448
https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/1113003376353128448
April 04, 2019, 02:20:23 PM
I don't think this is the kind of manipulation we are talking about, because this exchanges are owned by different persons and there is no way 3 exchanges will create the same manipulation at different time.
I think this kind of manipulation is done by whales and what they are just trying to do is create an increase in the price of bitcoin so that they can make profit within a few period of time and then pull out of the market, but please we need screenshot of the order placed so that we can be sure it really happened.
I think this kind of manipulation is done by whales and what they are just trying to do is create an increase in the price of bitcoin so that they can make profit within a few period of time and then pull out of the market, but please we need screenshot of the order placed so that we can be sure it really happened.
April 03, 2019, 11:08:07 AM
What's so surprising about that? Market manipulation has been a common occurrence for the longest time in this market. It's been happening for the longet time and good traders know how to read these manipulations and ride the movements. The big players may have gotten bored with the market state and decided to spice things up a little bit.
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