Topic: This thing with the accounts' farming has to stop... - page 2. (Read 667 times)

Can you give the links to these gigs so that me and others will report them too. I think that fiverr won't remove the gig, if only one or two person report the gig.
If more people can report simultaneously, much better results can be achieved.

I'm not sure you're right, just remember a recent example from the ChipMixer campaign, where they discovered a member with multiple accounts.
When it comes to big money, some people without morals and honesty will do anything because of the potential big earnings, and I don’t think they will be tired because of it.
I think it is impossible to detect all such cases on the forum and I believe that there are certainly still members with multiple accounts participating in well-paid campaigns.
Unfortunately, this is the dark side of this forum that is hard to avoid.
Still, I believe most scammers aren’t good enough to reach higher forum ranks so they probably create a lot of accounts and sell them afterwards.

There are other few similar gigs I saw and of course they all have multiple accounts, no wonder why ANN board in Altcoin section is flooded by spams from bumps. Other gigs were just mostly promotion through the usual social media platforms like Facebook.


I reported these gigs, and hopefully they'll get taken down. I'll just edit this post if it was successfully removed.

Fake or paid Bumping is not allowed on the forum. Is there any way we can report such services on fiverr ? This might help to remove such services from the fiverr platform. I am not sure about the term n conditions of fiverr whether they allow illegal services to be posted  

Whattt... there's really a market for that huh?

So my guess is that either he engages his minions or uses some VPN to change IP address between accounts.

That's funny.  That's like the opposite of the messages I get through various platforms...  Most of the time they say, "I'll stop posting on your threads and spreading lies if you send X amount of BTC here."  I guess that means I've made it?  The exception to the rule?  LOL.

Like they say, a fool and their money are quickly parted.  Anyone who would pay $10 to get spammed probably deserves it.  I can't imagine any of the postings lead to any development breakthroughs or added value whatsoever, or that anyone would pay $10 for this, but I've seen people trade their BTC for dumber things I guess.

There are also one of those fake convo wherein the OP quotes something from a news. Even though the OP cites the source, s/he just seemingly to just abandon the thread and posts another thread with the same manner that mentioned previously.
That feeling that you wanted to have a relaxing conversation/discussion in a certain topic, but the OP doesn't give a shit about any replies of other users and just move on.
Smells like fishing merit for me when I encounter those threads.

I looked up in Fiverr for a bit, and I found this one gig.

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I haven't found selling accounts yet but I found plenty of bumping services there, so it's quite concerning that shady businesses off-forum is happening though.
I had checked Upwork as well which I primarily work on most of the time and mostly I only got BBCodes designing jobs there.

I have noticed these kinds of fake conversations thread where any alt account are involved. It's pretty clear account farmer just trying to increase account activity which would help him later to get in any Bounty, Airdrop, or other mini tasks. Since the forum allows create multiple accounts it's hard to prevent them unless they break obvious forum rules. Blaming altcoin also not appropriate without a proper connection between each account. So account farmers will exist. I have seen a few account sellers in Fiverr where they selling accounts with activity only. Because it's hard to earn merits for them. So I am assuming this would be a reason for account farming and involved with fake conversations.

The still can I figure. Not dead easy, not going to get that far either, but some have found some very easy threads on which to harvest a few merits per account, and they sooner or later pop their accounts onto those threads to gather the harvest. They build up activity, an swoop in for the easy merits at some point, pretending to be a bunch of individuals.

This thread for example shows a straight 16 posts in a row from Newbie/Jr. Members, many of them just one or two minutes apart: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57077156
Statistically, that is an outlier pattern that stands out on its own.

Whether their objective is to get into some very crappy campaign (some may likely still likely accept Jr. Members without a merit requrement) , or sell them to others is a wonder, buy some are still at it, although one would expect the volume to be substantially lower than years ago, and with much lower campaign type expectancy in any case.

They can't farm in this forum anymore, remember that there is a requirement for a certain rank before joining in a campaign and even that isn't even an assurance that you will be accepted by the manager. The user who farms those newbie accounts are going to get tired doing it everyday without any assurance that he/she can farm those accounts.

Maybe if Signature campaings dont required that monstruose ammount of posts in order to reach the minimun required to be payd, maybe, we will not found those type os posts.

If they force people to post 20 or 25 post per week, or they allow 15+ post per day, then people will do what you see, IMHO thats the main reason about it, anyway i will never be against signature campaigns is a great way to incentive people gain some satoshis and in some ways help this forum too.

You can imagine the nonsense! One thing these guys fail to understand is that, they actually live traces no matter how careful they tend to get in perpetuating this wrong against the forum. Unfortunately, for the forum not to be biased and to be fare to everyone by giving them the benefit of the doubt, the way to prosecution is very difficult. As you've got to prove beyond all reasonable doubt. Again, there would always be mistakes and when the day or reckoning actually comes around, your sure @those who farm accounts, you won't be available on the forum to tell the tale.

2 satoshi!!! Thats really poor but, it somehow makes it look like, account farming could be valued at that rate. The best thing is not to even but at all. In that way, they would understand that its meaningless to farm an account with the sole purpose of trading it off. Unfortunately,  not every user has the mind set of actually by passing these guys that farms accounts.

If I may be bold to suggest something, throwing in a bate and hope that it hooks some users would be another way to go about catching the petronizers that allows this behaviour to trend.

I noticed another thread with the same accounts, so even though it's mostly a post that is one or two sentences - some posts are still a bit more serious (somewhat). Since we have not yet established the reason for this behavior, maybe this will be useful to someone in the future when he researches these accounts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-think-many-people-are-free-to-buy-bitcoin-wealth-but-i-feel-powerless-5340236 (archived)

Well, here you can immediately see everyone who has already outgrown the bounty reward and stopped going to the section of alternative reward altogether.
But I go there very often, and I can assure you that newcomers without merits, as well as everyone with red tags, can still be accepted into such companies. And then, of course, the question arises: why do people do this? What do they have from this? This is where their alternative accounts come to the rescue. I am more than sure that there are very few "honest" bounty hunters today. Not a single reasonable person will work for days without having anything for it. There are bounty hunters who have farms and are difficult to find, and there are those who register not for quality, but quantity. If one account goes into a ban, then another one follows, which was grown for this.
Since it is not forbidden to have alternative accounts, the farms will live. But since the topic is about how to stop all this chaos, it would be easy to limit the number of registrations of alternative accounts to 3. Everything that will be registered from one more IP should be blocked. And also block the registration of accounts, which already had a ban from the IP.
But this has already been discussed many times, and everyone is talking about the decentralization and democracy of the forum, so farms have existed and will continue to exist.

They were paid on a weekly basis. Here's the thread of it below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/end-whale-maker-signature-campaign-upto-140w-5331069

We are taking about here Newbies accounts, for Member you still need 10 merits. Secondly i disagree that bounties pay good amount as most of them never make it to the exchanges.
As per your experience, were the $60 per member were earned every week or it was the total reward for few months ?

I don't think anyone should buy these account with hundreds of activity but no merits. It does not matter how many posts you make in an account, it will remain as a newbie unless it gets a merit. Such accounts can only be used in bounties but then again why would anyone buy so many accounts to join bounty where the returns are also very minimal for low rank members.

There are some still holding ICO campaigns (I joined one previously) that pay much higher, although it was only opened to Members and above.

It paid $60 in tokens per Member.

Possibly these are accounts of the backlink building companies. They farm backlinks and their clients don't really like comments written by fresh new accounts. Accounts with few tens of posts would add even more credibility and value to the backlink.

I guess they do. The forum system allows Jr members to wear signatures and most users in that rank would be willing to work in a bounty for very low pay, so I assume they still can. ICOs are no longer very popular, so the situation is very likely not as bad as it used to be.

The one merit to get to Jr member isn't that steep and those who wish to circumvent the system can either buy them or post to get merits; through giveaways or other means, if they're dedicated a string of accounts could be ranked up.