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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 13, 2021, 12:04:11 PM

All you need to do is copy paste the rich bastards and poor people get same results.

Lol, this isn't an easy thing, man!
Otherwise there wouldn't have been obvious social segregation. I think the most important thing for the poor is to act, the will to rise,
think positively, to be progressive and to accept bigger changes in their mind instead of working year round. In essence, the psychology of the poor is the decisive factor that creates the actions behind.

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Quote from: michellee on December 16, 2021, 04:53:12 AM

Those poor people need to buy food daily and hard to think about how they can change their lives, but not all of them think like that because some of them still want to have better chances to have a better life. Some of them start to work and search for other works to have more money because that is their way to have a better life. Only a few of them have a good mindset to change their lives and think about searching for other sources to help them earn money. With the hard work that they do every day, some of them finally can change their lives and teach others to have a better life.

It is not easy to switch jobs when you are poor as well, I know that sounds weird but even a better job offer could be always a very risky thing. Why? Because if you are poor but you have been with the company that kept you poor for so long, you start to consider maybe it is not really that easy to let you go, where are they going to find another person who will work for cheap for so long? Whereas if you get paid more somewhere else, not like rich money, still poor but less so compared to your current job, they could get you and then may not like you and fire you in which case you will be doing a lot worse.

This is why I highly doubt that we would ever get something great in return of that decision. So, it is very hard to be poor, sometimes you just need to accept the fact that you are not going to be doing all that well and need to change the whole system you live with.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 13, 2021, 12:04:11 PM

This what poor people need:
Is poor people fund managets who grow up their capital and reinvest this money for example in IPO on stock market and creating crypto projects to be listed later on exchangers 10x profit at least.
Also fund manager can use this capital to pump up the markets but first b4 pump the poor investors will know first.

It need be some mutual funds trust kind of thing also with insurance as rich bastards have.

All you need to do is copy paste the rich bastards and poor people get same results.

I have been reading some of the threads you opened and all of them have the same idea behind, but this one does not make sense, poor people have no capital, they are working just to survive and if they could get any extra capital then their priority should be on trying to improve their living conditions now, it does not seem as if you understand what true poverty is, poor people cannot afford money managers, loans or any of the solutions you think could improve their lives.

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Quote from: Falconer on December 15, 2021, 11:11:08 PM

The world will never be separated from poor people and will forever be in this world. One thing that is certain is that the government has not really succeeded in preventing poverty in a country even on a global scale and it is always the most familiar topic every year even when the period of government continues to change.

People may be poor in wealth, but they should not be poor in knowledge and self-respect. Government cannot make him rich without knowledge and the main problem of poverty is knowledge. Without a job people can invest in cryptocurrencies, but without knowledge they never even know what bitcoin is. People are always interested in getting rich, but they forget that knowledge is the main capital to change their destiny.

poor people tend to be slow in keeping up with the times, it is indeed difficult for the government to eliminate poverty, but this can be suppressed, of course by increasing its human resources. we must be able to change their mindset so that they have the spirit to move forward, not just give food aid, so they don't go hungry, in my country currently there are many government programs to overcome poverty, but also every year new poverty continues to exist, so skills development is one of the long-term solutions

Skills development can multiply career opportunities as well as change mindsets but what is more surprising is that the government runs more fundraising and helping the poor than training programs, implementing training seems to be too difficult from the resources as well as the poor who do not volunteer for this. In addition, the government is not an integrity group, food aid is only part donation and part embezzlement to get rich, perhaps as many people say, overcoming poverty is about self-esteem and high effort, not just advice or outside help.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 13, 2021, 12:04:11 PM

Is poor people fund managets who grow up their capital and reinvest this money for example in IPO on stock market and creating crypto projects to be listed later on exchangers 10x profit at least.

But poor people don't have capital to begin with?!
You talk about investment, funds, etc. which is not poor people's game.
The only thing poor people have is human capital (skills), so they better sell their skills, get paid and then grow their tangible capital.

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Well said by somebody "Born destitute isn't your blame but passing on destitute is yours".I think being destitute is state of mind in the event that you've got not cash but rationally you're wealthy you set enormous dreams one day you'll get it.Motly they may utilize one fair to keep things straightforward as a result they have other leisure activities that they need to spend their time on, but most will have a great establishing in monetary application. Receiving wealthy propensities where you learn modern things and expanding trending abilities it'll offer assistance to urge your detination and offer your abilities against high value.

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Poor people need to form a rich mentality first, then seek knowledge to become rich, one of which is to form an investment mindset to be rich by putting aside their needs to fill up stomachs. The poor should form a community that can explore an investment project where they can put their trust in the ICO or whatever it is called in investing. I'm sure there are some of the them who are capable for doing good analysis to guide their community on the path of profitable investment. We need to underline, they are just poor, not completely stupid.

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 13, 2021, 12:04:11 PM

All you need to do is copy paste the rich bastards and poor people get same results.

This is like some joke, right?

All people need basics at least, sadly it's not like that even in the 21st century, many still don't have food or water, toilets, electricity... something we all need for some "normal life"! And that normal life wouldn't be so normal if we can't have nice things... nice house, job, neighborhood, car, gadgets... so what people really need and what people really want!?
Maybe the problem is in some people who want too much, and if they have too much some others will not have enough! The real problem is the system run by some people, it's a rotten system and I don't think we will see better days for all the people if we don't change the system!

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The money comes first, but if somehow they've manage to get a hold of it for some reason, then knowledge comes second, as it will go to waste if the money is invested without you knowing what you are doing. Even if they had the money and hired a fund manager, I bet they will be having a hard time paying the interest of the money they've borrowed. As expected poor people have no money that is why they are called poor. But with hard work and perseverance I think it is possible for them to reach a certain goal which will free them from poverty. They just need the knowledge and the rest is their luck.

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real poor people will not want to invest because its very clear lack of money in their income ,food that is the main priority in their life and even then is still lacking ! how will they to invest? the difference between poor and rich is quite so far ,there are people is a lower to middle class ,there is an upper to middle class and there is also a middle class only ! actually depends on human nature as well as an open minded but its a hard for people who don't have a money "poor"

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Those poor people need to buy food daily and hard to think about how they can change their lives, but not all of them think like that because some of them still want to have better chances to have a better life. Some of them start to work and search for other works to have more money because that is their way to have a better life. Only a few of them have a good mindset to change their lives and think about searching for other sources to help them earn money. With the hard work that they do every day, some of them finally can change their lives and teach others to have a better life.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 15, 2021, 06:57:58 PM

Quote from: Koro-Sensei on December 15, 2021, 06:44:33 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 15, 2021, 12:24:55 PM

I don't think if you are Poor you have the right mindset to try and invest, what you care about is putting food one the table for their family and enough money for essential necessities. You cannot expect the people to go forth and think about investing their money or either to borrow money and invest that as well, what they can do is :
Invest in the education of their kids.
They can profit from the free government schools and universities in most countries
They can secure housing, ik all these tasks are tedious and most of the time they don't have general information about it therefore it's our responsibility to share it. That's where volunteer work comes in handy, it's a society, we all gotta help each other.

Agreed. You guys have to know that poor people work hard than most CEO's. If you know how they sweat just to have food in their table, you can't expect to invest in these spaces. They probably don't have the means to login here as devices isn't available as well. I live in a 3rd world country where farmers are neglected. Workers are underpaid and minimum wages are below what you needs. I know most of them as my friends are one of them too. I am just lucky im in a middle class family.

but have you thought asking them if they are happy with their lives? because some of them are just happy and grateful for what they have. most people that are at peace with themselves are those with very little in life. and those with riches are those with a lot more problems to deal with.
so for me, poor or rich people are the same, it is how you live your life and how contented and happy you are.

It is very important to make peace or be grateful for the circumstances we have,
life is complicated because in general we see rich people like they don't have problems but that's not true because everyone also has their own problems,
and vice versa also does not mean that the poor are never happy because sometimes they have made peace and accepted such a situation

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Quote from: Falconer on December 15, 2021, 11:11:08 PM

The world will never be separated from poor people and will forever be in this world. One thing that is certain is that the government has not really succeeded in preventing poverty in a country even on a global scale and it is always the most familiar topic every year even when the period of government continues to change.

People may be poor in wealth, but they should not be poor in knowledge and self-respect. Government cannot make him rich without knowledge and the main problem of poverty is knowledge. Without a job people can invest in cryptocurrencies, but without knowledge they never even know what bitcoin is. People are always interested in getting rich, but they forget that knowledge is the main capital to change their destiny.

poor people tend to be slow in keeping up with the times, it is indeed difficult for the government to eliminate poverty, but this can be suppressed, of course by increasing its human resources. we must be able to change their mindset so that they have the spirit to move forward, not just give food aid, so they don't go hungry, in my country currently there are many government programs to overcome poverty, but also every year new poverty continues to exist, so skills development is one of the long-term solutions

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Quote from: Voxo2222 on December 13, 2021, 12:04:11 PM

This what poor people need:
Is poor people fund managets who grow up their capital and reinvest this money for example in IPO on stock market and creating crypto projects to be listed later on exchangers 10x profit at least.
Also fund manager can use this capital to pump up the markets but first b4 pump the poor investors will know first.

It need be some mutual funds trust kind of thing also with insurance as rich bastards have.

All you need to do is copy paste the rich bastards and poor people get same results.

Also need teamwork and wealthy mindset but here is problem if u not with networking making connections and doing ur finances the way how it should be then u cant get wealthy.

So this one is suitable for ghetto people come together invest ur dope money in markets get few good traders and fund managers usually they have good inside info btw anyone who have learned about finances and corporate investment have some pretty decent inside info.

If u guys need more directions how to organize this proper way then ask.

Its time wake up and doing wealth without crime or working bs jobs such us construction or mc donalds.
Time imvest and manage ur wealth proper ways

looks very easy to do right? tell this directly to those "poor people" you are addressing and find what their answer infront of your face.

have you been a poor in the past? do you understand their mindset and way of living ?

what about their capacity of learning ?

if not then you have no rights in telling what they must do and act.

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The world will never be separated from poor people and will forever be in this world. One thing that is certain is that the government has not really succeeded in preventing poverty in a country even on a global scale and it is always the most familiar topic every year even when the period of government continues to change.

People may be poor in wealth, but they should not be poor in knowledge and self-respect. Government cannot make him rich without knowledge and the main problem of poverty is knowledge. Without a job people can invest in cryptocurrencies, but without knowledge they never even know what bitcoin is. People are always interested in getting rich, but they forget that knowledge is the main capital to change their destiny.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 15, 2021, 06:57:58 PM

Quote from: Koro-Sensei on December 15, 2021, 06:44:33 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 15, 2021, 12:24:55 PM

I don't think if you are Poor you have the right mindset to try and invest, what you care about is putting food one the table for their family and enough money for essential necessities. You cannot expect the people to go forth and think about investing their money or either to borrow money and invest that as well, what they can do is :
Invest in the education of their kids.
They can profit from the free government schools and universities in most countries
They can secure housing, ik all these tasks are tedious and most of the time they don't have general information about it therefore it's our responsibility to share it. That's where volunteer work comes in handy, it's a society, we all gotta help each other.

Agreed. You guys have to know that poor people work hard than most CEO's. If you know how they sweat just to have food in their table, you can't expect to invest in these spaces. They probably don't have the means to login here as devices isn't available as well. I live in a 3rd world country where farmers are neglected. Workers are underpaid and minimum wages are below what you needs. I know most of them as my friends are one of them too. I am just lucky im in a middle class family.

but have you thought asking them if they are happy with their lives? because some of them are just happy and grateful for what they have. most people that are at peace with themselves are those with very little in life. and those with riches are those with a lot more problems to deal with.
so for me, poor or rich people are the same, it is how you live your life and how contented and happy you are.

Happiness they only need to eat and drink and a small income to survive and that's enough for poor people and that's all they need and live with their families as they are but they feel happy, and all I know is that nowadays poor people always get help from the government. such as basic needs or money every month and their small income can be used for other needs.
Poor people will not think about investing because they know it is not their capacity or ability and what they have in mind is to survive on small income and also government assistance or rich people to simplify their life.
when compared to rich people, they are very far away and behind their wealth they are not as calm as poor people because there are many things to think about, especially the security of their property.

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Well, that's pretty straightforward-thinking. It's like assuming that everyone who is rich is successful, and everyone who is poor is a failure when there are quite a lot of variables that have influenced them to be called "successful" or a "failure". Not to mention that the starting point of all sides are unequal, so really, asking for poor people to just "manage" their funds isn't really possible sometimes (some are just real asses that don't want to do anything hence just fail, this is what I'd probably consider as the real poor people).

What OP is saying is kind of idealistic really, kind of like there's a will there's a way. Unfortunately, will isn't enough to feed your stomach when you're at that point. Honestly just live life the way you want to, being rich doesn't equate to happiness sometimes anyway (sometimes okay?).

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Quote from: Koro-Sensei on December 15, 2021, 06:44:33 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 15, 2021, 12:24:55 PM

I don't think if you are Poor you have the right mindset to try and invest, what you care about is putting food one the table for their family and enough money for essential necessities. You cannot expect the people to go forth and think about investing their money or either to borrow money and invest that as well, what they can do is :
Invest in the education of their kids.
They can profit from the free government schools and universities in most countries
They can secure housing, ik all these tasks are tedious and most of the time they don't have general information about it therefore it's our responsibility to share it. That's where volunteer work comes in handy, it's a society, we all gotta help each other.

Agreed. You guys have to know that poor people work hard than most CEO's. If you know how they sweat just to have food in their table, you can't expect to invest in these spaces. They probably don't have the means to login here as devices isn't available as well. I live in a 3rd world country where farmers are neglected. Workers are underpaid and minimum wages are below what you needs. I know most of them as my friends are one of them too. I am just lucky im in a middle class family.

but have you thought asking them if they are happy with their lives? because some of them are just happy and grateful for what they have. most people that are at peace with themselves are those with very little in life. and those with riches are those with a lot more problems to deal with.
so for me, poor or rich people are the same, it is how you live your life and how contented and happy you are.

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 15, 2021, 12:24:55 PM

I don't think if you are Poor you have the right mindset to try and invest, what you care about is putting food one the table for their family and enough money for essential necessities. You cannot expect the people to go forth and think about investing their money or either to borrow money and invest that as well, what they can do is :
Invest in the education of their kids.
They can profit from the free government schools and universities in most countries
They can secure housing, ik all these tasks are tedious and most of the time they don't have general information about it therefore it's our responsibility to share it. That's where volunteer work comes in handy, it's a society, we all gotta help each other.

Agreed. You guys have to know that poor people work hard than most CEO's. If you know how they sweat just to have food in their table, you can't expect to invest in these spaces. They probably don't have the means to login here as devices isn't available as well. I live in a 3rd world country where farmers are neglected. Workers are underpaid and minimum wages are below what you needs. I know most of them as my friends are one of them too. I am just lucky im in a middle class family.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 13, 2021, 06:56:40 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on December 13, 2021, 04:56:22 PM

Poor people need knowledge first. They also desperately need to learn how to manage even their small sums. The mentality of a poor man, and even more so a genetic poor man, is very different from the mentality and logic of a person with the right approaches. The mentality of a poor man "to fill his stomach", the mentality of a person who wants to increase capital - how to save money and how to invest more in the most profitable projects. Yes, you still need to be able to define what benefits are not projects, and this is from the field of knowledge. Knowledge which the poor do not have. For them, money is synonymous with the word "food", for you, money is synonymous with the word "a tool for making more money." This is a huge difference.

Correct, I have posted before that education or knowledge is important for everyone,
employment and a regular wage is also important.

To increase the standard of living of the poor a solution has to be sustainable.

Also, everyone cannot be wealthy, there has to be rich, poor and people in between.
Imagine everyone was at the same level, there would be people who spend more than
others, people who save more than others, eventually a wealth gap would develop.

I agree, and I will add:
Regular salary is a derivative of knowledge and experience. To begin with, you need to strain, learn, go through the stage of accumulating experience. At this time, it is stupid to think of a high income. And in general, you should not be sure that you can earn a lot like that

But this is at least the first step from systemic poverty.

The standard of living of the poor also depends on their desire to CHANGE their lives, and not to RECEIVE a handout that they eat.

And I absolutely agree that there will never be common wealth. Separation is a natural process, because everyone cannot have the same knowledge, skills, experience, thinking, interests. For this, go like communism - where they promised absolute complete equality, initially a stupid lie, for narrow-minded people.

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