Ah David you almost made me cry... except that I cry for the people that REALLY work and barely survive and not by lazy individuals that concentrate all their efforts in conning and scamming people. And you, Zimbeck, fit that bill. I don't care who your employer is, you are the LEAD DEVELOPER of that immense scam that is BitBay. And you know it is an immense SCAM top to bottom. And yes, you are scamming people. Aiding and abiding. You know they only sold a few hundred BTC. You do. You know they (you?) have been and will continue to dump the coins that they sold with the left hand and bought with the right one. And you participate. Enthusiastically.
You ALSO know that your "decentralized market" is just a gimmick, not a real, practicable thing, just a gimmick fully copied from NXT whose only purpose is actual delivery of anything remotely working so BTER will release the 3rd installment. You know this. And you, again, enthusiastically participate. And, frankly, I do not care much that you are in debt so deep you feel like drowning, really. What you have done all your life so far -chess apart- is WRONG. If you don't make enough to pay your bills, work flipping burgers, ok? But this, maybe these guys that have employed you will get you out of debt. Or maybe they will get you in jail too. Don't know or care. But what you are doing is completely wrong and you know it.
If you have anything remotely valid to say, these forums are read by everyone interested in crypto. Everyone. I am not your brother and there's nothing that you can tell me that you cannot post here, so do or don't, up to you. But yes, what you are doing, for the third time, is VERY WRONG. And it will catch up with you sooner rather than later, because no matter how you choose to want to portray it, you are the face and main responsible for that huge scam you facilitate every single day, in BAY.
Your BitHalo and NightTrader, by the way, are as worthless as the price of BC indicates. See, if people would want to trade in crypto for regular things, like on eBay, avoiding PayPal and its draconian fees and regulations, they would be doing that already massively. Without any need for Halo or NT. There's a lot of quite reputable people ready and willing to escrow anything. Some trading is already going on that way. Has for months. No one needs a pseudo "decentralized" escrow where buyers are supposed to put up to 3 times the price of what they are buying and sellers are supposed to put up 2 times the price of what they are selling. You DO know that but... you need money. At whatever ethical price. So instead of WORKING on progressing towards ideas that can be furthered by technology, you choose, again -in spite of the spiteful experiences of the past- the short route to... Palookaville.
Not sorry to burst your bubble, Zimbeck, hopefully on time to avoid that a lot of people be hurt by your outrageous behavior. Now, the forum is yours if you want to come with some "brotherly" explanations that ANYONE can understand instead of the idiotic hyperbole you crowd your "whitepapers" with. I, for one, will be all ears.
Oh, and something else, being an extra in Pirates II, although nicely paid and for no matter how many days (I know it was 4 weeks) is not "working as an actor", it is doing work as background or, in popular lingo, to be an extra, which is something quite different much as you want to present it otherwise. The same applies to commercials, local, regional or national, ok? And, you should know, having access to a digital camera doesn't make you a professional photographer even if you profess to take photos for a price. If you don't make a living at it, you are just someone with a hobby, ok?
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Also, you accusing me of trying to scam people is just incorrect. 
Talk to altcoin UK just had a very nice, long convo with him and willing to do the same with you. The picture you paint is not even close to what goes on and I'm more than happy to talk with you privately, over the phone or on skype. Show you the client, show you the flow charts and some code snippets and so forth. I would rather talk to you like a brother than waste my time on a forum.
I'm writing software. Nothing more, nothing less. Got hired by BitBay to sell a license. So I did. Your grandiose fantasies are untrue. The markets are in fact decentralized. Any private whitelist will not use a server. So it is in fact decentralized. Perhaps you spend too much time on Tor.
As far as bootleg DVDs and dolls full of drugs. I'm pretty sure people can do that on E-Bay anyways. We arent responsible for the impossible. In fact, we arent responsible for anything that gets posted to the internet. But it certainly doesnt hurt to have your bases covered. Im sure its pretty easy for you to be a critic from the outside looking in. Really, you dont have any idea what goes on here. It is judgemental and impolite to use my name in the maner that you do. Especially since I was hired on as a contractor.
The reason I take on more responsibility is ironically to protect investors. This is also the reason im planning on hedging/pegging.
My intentions are always good and i work my ass off to make good software. You should try it sometime(coding) and see how it is to be in my shoes.
Talk to altcoin UK just had a very nice, long convo with him and willing to do the same with you. The picture you paint is not even close to what goes on and I'm more than happy to talk with you privately, over the phone or on skype. Show you the client, show you the flow charts and some code snippets and so forth. I would rather talk to you like a brother than waste my time on a forum.
I'm writing software. Nothing more, nothing less. Got hired by BitBay to sell a license. So I did. Your grandiose fantasies are untrue. The markets are in fact decentralized. Any private whitelist will not use a server. So it is in fact decentralized. Perhaps you spend too much time on Tor.
As far as bootleg DVDs and dolls full of drugs. I'm pretty sure people can do that on E-Bay anyways. We arent responsible for the impossible. In fact, we arent responsible for anything that gets posted to the internet. But it certainly doesnt hurt to have your bases covered. Im sure its pretty easy for you to be a critic from the outside looking in. Really, you dont have any idea what goes on here. It is judgemental and impolite to use my name in the maner that you do. Especially since I was hired on as a contractor.
The reason I take on more responsibility is ironically to protect investors. This is also the reason im planning on hedging/pegging.
My intentions are always good and i work my ass off to make good software. You should try it sometime(coding) and see how it is to be in my shoes.
Give me an alternative instead of complaining. And stop dropping my name as if I'm doing anything wrong.
First of all, I'm not moderating the main market, will hire somebody to do that. The main market goes through a server so that not only do I absolve myself of legal liability, but people have something that is fast and robust. IIts possible people such as consumers will prefer anyways. To get into the decentralized MAIN markets of Halo and NT I'm not going to require much, probably about 5 or 6 deals to get into the whitelist.
Once a person is in the decentralized market they can post what they want but other users can flag the posts. A moderator at that point would only be able to delete a post after it gets to market not before. This allows people to have markets with no server, but control what is seen in the market.
What if you wanted to have a market that sold electronics and you didnt want a server? What would happen if this wasnt in place?
Simple, people would post things that dont belong there and spam the market. This gives a white layer on the darknet.
So nobody is stopping you from making your own private market. It is very much decentralized. Wanna post drugs? Is that what this is about? It sure sounds like thats what you want.
Do you want to post drugs to a market where people are trying to sell cash? Or how about posting them where people try to trade coins? This system allows for markets to sell what they claim to sell. It seems to me a bit funny that everyone stands up for the freedom of drug dealers and then forget about the rest of the world who also may benefit from said services.
And you realize there is no justice in the world right? If my main markets are anything but pure, I run the risk of getting thrown in jail for writing basic software. No, this is superior. This keeps my main markets clean.
If you want a free market, start your own whitelist. Its not hard to do and I certainly can't stop you. Perhaps you also need to relax, I'm working hard and trying my best to make good products. If you don't like what I make you are free to do whatever you want.
First of all, I'm not moderating the main market, will hire somebody to do that. The main market goes through a server so that not only do I absolve myself of legal liability, but people have something that is fast and robust. IIts possible people such as consumers will prefer anyways. To get into the decentralized MAIN markets of Halo and NT I'm not going to require much, probably about 5 or 6 deals to get into the whitelist.
Once a person is in the decentralized market they can post what they want but other users can flag the posts. A moderator at that point would only be able to delete a post after it gets to market not before. This allows people to have markets with no server, but control what is seen in the market.
What if you wanted to have a market that sold electronics and you didnt want a server? What would happen if this wasnt in place?
Simple, people would post things that dont belong there and spam the market. This gives a white layer on the darknet.
So nobody is stopping you from making your own private market. It is very much decentralized. Wanna post drugs? Is that what this is about? It sure sounds like thats what you want.
Do you want to post drugs to a market where people are trying to sell cash? Or how about posting them where people try to trade coins? This system allows for markets to sell what they claim to sell. It seems to me a bit funny that everyone stands up for the freedom of drug dealers and then forget about the rest of the world who also may benefit from said services.
And you realize there is no justice in the world right? If my main markets are anything but pure, I run the risk of getting thrown in jail for writing basic software. No, this is superior. This keeps my main markets clean.
If you want a free market, start your own whitelist. Its not hard to do and I certainly can't stop you. Perhaps you also need to relax, I'm working hard and trying my best to make good products. If you don't like what I make you are free to do whatever you want.
The lot of them is simply riotous. Beyond hilarious. Just check them for yourself, worth it for the laughs.
But at the key point in them, here's one of the best "pearls":
Q: Are there any mechanisms to rid the BitBay marketplace of things like guns, abusive pornagraphy, hitmen, etc?
A: Those things will not be possible in the main markets even though they are in fact decentralized. This is for two reasons. First in order to get into a white listed market, you need to prove your worth by doing deals in the Halo market. Next, once in the decentralized market, special moderator versions of Halo will be given out to help oversee what is seen in a decentralized market. Users can also flag posts and when a certain number of flags is reached, the orders become invisible. Whitelists allow for trust systems. So anyone running a decentralized market has total control over who is able to post to it.
Just read that answer slowly and carefully, ok? This is a decentralized series of markets but you, somehow, have to prove "your worth" to access the big leagues, but playing first in the small ones. Fair enough, so you sell your collection of stamps and your used DVDs first and once qualified, you go into the big leagues where you sell dolls (full of cocaine) that ship from Colombia. Or Thailand... ah, but no, there's that omnipresent "Halo special moderator" that "oversees" somehow what is seen in "a decentralized market". So the market is not that decentralized after all. Oh but that "Halo special moderator" is just a bunch of keywords, so no real moderator at all: You can write anything you want -or post any pictures you want- except that you have to watch you avoid the keywords that would alert the "special moderator", and you are in business... And since Law enforcement is completely stupid, even retarded, they won't be able to tell what you are selling either. And even is they find out, they wont be able to come after you because, after all, you are selling in a decentralized market, right? So when they purchase your dolls and trace their origin, you would send them to a jungle in the Amazon instead the shipment addresses in Colombia or Thailand. Or the UPC or mail office closest where they will be waiting for you when they order the next shipment... yeah, quite clever indeed Zimbeck... oh boy... It can and will apply to things much more "innocent" too, such as the pirated versions of "Fury" or "The Godfather" too, not to mention the discography of Taylor Swift of the latest version of Halo (pun fully intended) for Playstation 5.
But besides the obvious, this whole idea of a "decentralized marketplace" is so beyond absurd that it really is amazing it will still have some sale (pun again!) value: Much like on eBay, buyers and sellers will be "rated", therefore left at the whim of competitors -legit and non- or simply "demanding" customers/sellers for their listings will disappear if a "certain number of flags is reached". Manipulating those numbers of flags cannot be easier and poof, competitoir out of the way. Or otherwise valid consumer, out of the way because... well, he used the handle "barabbas" to purchase a couple of things and he maybe you know, that guy on BTCT...
Finally, So anyone running a decentralized market has total control over who is able to post to it. Now I am REALLY confused... I thought this was totally DECENTRALIZED so the whole point was that NOBODY was "running a decentralized market"... what's that you said, ITS TOTAL BULLSHIT created only to get [people to at least hold their coins without provoking a major stampede before they collect the payments held by BTER that they posted to themselves in exchange for the coins they are orderly unloading since the coin came online at the exchanges? That makes sense. ONLY that makes sense.
David, do I take that your debts will be fully cancelled and you'll be on the clear as of December 5th or shortly thereafter, or are you "tied up" until the full delivery, somewhere in March or so... I hope, for once, you were clever enough to get ouit of them on the 5th, otherwise it is going to be a long winter of your discontent.
Which is what usually happens when, instead of working, you choose to try to scam people, you know?
But at the key point in them, here's one of the best "pearls":
Q: Are there any mechanisms to rid the BitBay marketplace of things like guns, abusive pornagraphy, hitmen, etc?
A: Those things will not be possible in the main markets even though they are in fact decentralized. This is for two reasons. First in order to get into a white listed market, you need to prove your worth by doing deals in the Halo market. Next, once in the decentralized market, special moderator versions of Halo will be given out to help oversee what is seen in a decentralized market. Users can also flag posts and when a certain number of flags is reached, the orders become invisible. Whitelists allow for trust systems. So anyone running a decentralized market has total control over who is able to post to it.
Just read that answer slowly and carefully, ok? This is a decentralized series of markets but you, somehow, have to prove "your worth" to access the big leagues, but playing first in the small ones. Fair enough, so you sell your collection of stamps and your used DVDs first and once qualified, you go into the big leagues where you sell dolls (full of cocaine) that ship from Colombia. Or Thailand... ah, but no, there's that omnipresent "Halo special moderator" that "oversees" somehow what is seen in "a decentralized market". So the market is not that decentralized after all. Oh but that "Halo special moderator" is just a bunch of keywords, so no real moderator at all: You can write anything you want -or post any pictures you want- except that you have to watch you avoid the keywords that would alert the "special moderator", and you are in business... And since Law enforcement is completely stupid, even retarded, they won't be able to tell what you are selling either. And even is they find out, they wont be able to come after you because, after all, you are selling in a decentralized market, right? So when they purchase your dolls and trace their origin, you would send them to a jungle in the Amazon instead the shipment addresses in Colombia or Thailand. Or the UPC or mail office closest where they will be waiting for you when they order the next shipment... yeah, quite clever indeed Zimbeck... oh boy... It can and will apply to things much more "innocent" too, such as the pirated versions of "Fury" or "The Godfather" too, not to mention the discography of Taylor Swift of the latest version of Halo (pun fully intended) for Playstation 5.
But besides the obvious, this whole idea of a "decentralized marketplace" is so beyond absurd that it really is amazing it will still have some sale (pun again!) value: Much like on eBay, buyers and sellers will be "rated", therefore left at the whim of competitors -legit and non- or simply "demanding" customers/sellers for their listings will disappear if a "certain number of flags is reached". Manipulating those numbers of flags cannot be easier and poof, competitoir out of the way. Or otherwise valid consumer, out of the way because... well, he used the handle "barabbas" to purchase a couple of things and he maybe you know, that guy on BTCT...
Finally, So anyone running a decentralized market has total control over who is able to post to it. Now I am REALLY confused... I thought this was totally DECENTRALIZED so the whole point was that NOBODY was "running a decentralized market"... what's that you said, ITS TOTAL BULLSHIT created only to get [people to at least hold their coins without provoking a major stampede before they collect the payments held by BTER that they posted to themselves in exchange for the coins they are orderly unloading since the coin came online at the exchanges? That makes sense. ONLY that makes sense.
David, do I take that your debts will be fully cancelled and you'll be on the clear as of December 5th or shortly thereafter, or are you "tied up" until the full delivery, somewhere in March or so... I hope, for once, you were clever enough to get ouit of them on the 5th, otherwise it is going to be a long winter of your discontent.
Which is what usually happens when, instead of working, you choose to try to scam people, you know?
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