Topic: Thoughts on Hal Finney/Craig Wright being Satoshi? - page 2. (Read 350 times)

I believe that pretty much everyone agrees that Craig Wright is a liar, but I don't think that Finney was Satoshi either. First BTC transaction was sent to Finney, if memory serves, and I don't believe that Satoshi would just send the money to himself and reveal his identity along the way. It might be a reverse psychology type of thing, but I'm not buying it.

CW is not satoshi
hal is not satoshi

CW didnt even come onto the scene until 2015 but was scamming related to btc since ~2011(creating the no collateral tulip trust)
CW had no connection to hal.. i think your mixing people up
CW friend was not hals friend but daves friend
heres dave                            heres hal

2 different people
CW didnt dox himself until after daves death.. again unrelated to hal completely

hal was hal using his own username and writing his own code in his own style and was talking to satoshi and helping satoshi debug the code

also:
hal was definetly interested in money. all the cypherpunks were.
hal especially because he wanted to leave his family set for life with a healthy nest egg(as most dying people do when thinking about family). at the time he didnt know if bitcoiin would be that nest egg but he was also interested in making sound money that could change the world and give people(and family) a means of monetary freedom away from government support.

come on. its just common knowledge when someone gets bad news the main thing that motivates people is thinking about their family and others. its called leaving a nest egg or a legacy, inheritance.
only the most immoral/callus people would go on a spending spree using up all their life savings and leaving the family to be supported by government welfare/support.

seems this topic creator knows nothing of the basics
but back to my point

CW is not satoshi
hal is not satoshi
satoshi is satoshi
hal was just hal who helped satoshi
CW is just scammer who helped himself create fraud against australian government and private investors

There is no question that Craig Wright is a certified and convicted liar (according to a court case) and he is claiming to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto so he can gain the fame, recognition and riches that he has been aiming for all his life. He already got what he wanted and now he is bent to make sure that all people in the Bitcoin community will bow to him and look at him as the genuine one. That will never happen because here in this community we are not all for deciets and we are not that idiots.

As for your proposition that Hal Finney was actually the real Satoshi Nakamoto based on some grounds which you just enumerated, I think that can need more investigations and I think this has been talked a lot here and in other platforms too. From what I read somewhere (or is it here in this forum?), Hal denied being the Satoshi and for now barring concrete evidence I would prefer to believe his own words.

Craig Scammer started his scam recently (mainly in 2017) which is 3 years after Hal Finney's death so it wasn't exactly right away. and his intentions have always been clear as his scam is a very obvious one even though some people try to keep their head in the sand!

as for Hal Finney being Satoshi, i don't think so because he had communications with Satoshi and if he were Satoshi that would make him a crazy person communicating with himself and that doesn't match the profile. why would he create Satoshi and then also get involved with bitcoin and communicate with it as if to somone else.

CW is absolutely a liar, but he seems know who is the real Satoshi.

Hal Finney? I don't care If he is the real Satoshi or a friend to Satoshi. I don't know what's the point of finding the real Satoshi tho.

Satoshi, himself has invented Bitcoin and offered freedom to anyone. Why would we need to know his privacy and disclose him to public? He has right to keep hiding, it's his freedom. So, just let him be Satoshi.

I think Satoshi covered his tracks for a good reason. I don't think he would have any reason to come out and tell us who he really is.

Craig is a clown and nothnig more. Real satoshi will prove itself via crypto key

Exactly.

Another question - what do you think the point would be of Craig Wright becoming public about all this?
Maybe the marketing of Bitcoin SV?

This has been discussed many times. Here's a couple articles that go over it

https://cointelegraph.com/news/who-is-satoshi-the-hal-finney-dorian-nakamoto-connection
https://medium.com/swlh/the-creator-of-bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-is-most-likely-this-guy-8723eddb517c

One has to ask though, did Hal put all this effort into faking emails between the two of them? Not likely IMO.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf

And then there's one of the writing analysis things that's been done and doesn't prove anything. Hal did not come up as high on the probability.

https://towardsdatascience.com/stylometric-analysis-satoshi-nakamoto-294926cdf995

The only thing that's clear to me based on his own actions, is that it's highly likely CW is not Satoshi.

I get your point, CW is a scammer who's trying to make everyone believe that he was someone else. The bad thing about it is that he can't even show some proofs that he was Satoshi, why would Satoshi reveal his identity after all those years? is there any specific reason? if that's the case then what is that reason and is that enough to make him hide himself in public? think about it. There are some people who claim themselves as someone else to gain the benefits they wanted particularly the popularity and attention of people. We can't change the fact that it was possible but its better if we just accept the fact that Satoshi is/are the kind of person who wants to live his/their life in a peaceful way.

Hello everyone! I have some interesting thoughts to put forward about Hal Finney being Satoshi. (I don't know if they are new or not)

I would say that Craig Wright is a liar and maybe Hal Finney is the creator of Bitcoin because:

* Hal Finney died because of complications with ALS in 2014. (Bitcoin was created in 2009)
* Only a dying person has no interest in fame or money and that is why he hid is name and worked for a greater cause, to revolutionise and discourage centralised banking systems.
* Why would someone like Craig Wright try to be 100% private and then all of a sudden become public? He also only became public AFTER Hal Finney's death.