Topic: Tim Pool Sues Kamala Harris Over Alleged Plan to Execute Trump Opponents - page 2. (Read 717 times)

The proper definition of right and left CANNOT be nebulous like the modern definition, it is an unacceptable state of affairs. So, what does everyone on the left agree with, and what does everyone on the right agree with? The most agreed point on the left is to restrain the economy, including in ways redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich as you mentioned. But, the left is also FOR social liberties such as legal gay marriage, and they sometimes are and sometimes not in favor of abortion. Therefore, what can be said of the left is that they are for economic restraints but also for social liberties, which is a very specific definition of the left, unlike the current definition which is a smattering of random issues in various directions. There is a form of restraint wanted by the left for people's pocketbooks, but traditionally (less so at the moment) support for social freedoms. And because Tim Pool actually seems to support some welfare for the poor by forcing it out of the hands of the rich, that means he cannot be said to be entirely on the right at the very least.

The most agreed upon point of the right is to restrain social behavior in ways in formation of a tradition or culture, though the specific ways are not agreed upon. For a theocracy, they want to have religious requirements. Many people in conservative areas want restraints on abortion and gay marriage. The right may be heavier handed on crime because they are trying to socially restrain culture to specific behaviors deemed appropriate. But of course as discussed, the right also wants less taxes and therefore economic freedoms. This is a very simple and precise definition of the right: one who wants social constraints but economic liberties. If you want both social and economic liberties you are a libertarian. If you want neither economic liberties nor social liberties then you are an authoritarian. It makes the whole definition structure simple and highly useful to people to be able to use the words, unlike now where they are mostly just name-calling constructs.

Furthermore, you use the word "rights" to mean entitlements. Everyone has equal rights. If you are giving something to one class but not another class of people such as workers, you are not giving them a right but rather an entitlement. A right is the defense of a freedom or liberty, while an entitlement is an assurance of a specific service or ability that other people may not have. So everyone has the freedom of speech and the right to defend each other's freedom of speech. Meanwhile if your property is entirely surrounded by another person's property, you have the entitlement to get there by passing through their land. Entitlements are almost entirely an artifact of the left because they almost all cost money to deliver.

I could, but the context was specifically restraints on economy, whatever that means. I don't think the economy feels particularly "restrained" by the number of genders.

I do love how you pivot from ridiculing "billionaire neighborhoods" to how great it is to cut taxes for the rich... seems kinda contradictory.


I would suggest that we should cut taxes for everyone after everyone starts paying the same rates. No loopholes for capital gains / dividends / etc that regular wage-earners or small businesses can't take advantage of.

If you ignore that America had one of the strongest post pandemic economic recoveries in the world.  Unemployment, GDP growth, the inevitable recession that didn't happen.  And if you think Biden hasn't worried about rising prices (despite all the things he has done to address it, and the fact that it's clearly under control now at 2.5%), then yeah Biden is awful.

And if attacking marginalized groups because of their sexual identity is a sign of strength, then yeah, Biden is weak.  If only he were strong enough to attack the most vulnerable for being different like you.

Really suchmoon, lol, I think you can do much better than that.

It's more like the left is more concerned with teaching that there are 72 genders and that you can change them within a few hours instead of worrying about rising prices that Biden caused with his policies and then attributed to the Ukraine war, conveniently forgetting that runaway inflation started in September 2021 due to his policies.

The left wants more taxes to house illegal immigrants in hotels, give jobs to women and soyboys graduates in gender studies and make it increasingly difficult for the self-employed to make real money, with all the regulations and taxes they put on them while they believe they are the saviors of the world from their billionaire neighborhoods where they do not suffer the consequences of those policies. Their friends in the tech companies are delighted because it costs them nothing to comply knowing that these regulations and taxes crush the possible competition that could arise. 

There is nothing left-wingers hate more than a self-employed person who goes from poor to rich as a result of his work. And if he is also white, likes to drive his gasoline car and says he likes women with skirts and long hair, they think he deserves to be shot.

And meanwhile the right wing wants to lower taxes for everyone, including the rich, because they know that this way the little man can get ahead and the investment of the rich is beneficial for everyone, unlike those countries where they hate the rich and end up all equal, equally poor except the political class.

I have not yet had time to see your answer to the other thread because I have been busy, but I have seen this sentence and I could not resist.

Lol.

What "restraints"? You're just making up some nebulous definitions and demand agreement. There is no government that I'm aware of that wouldn't have some control on economy... maybe some failed states but arguably there is no government there to speak of.

If you said something along the lines "left wants more taxes, more rights for workers, etc, and right wants more protectionist tariffs, more rights for billionaires, etc" then maybe possibly potentially we could entertain the notion of there eventually being some sort of concept of a plan for agreement... and still that has nothing to do with Tim Pool and your incessant shilling for him.


He might have held a spoon with his left hand when he was a toddler. That doesn't make him leftist and matters about as much as everything else you made up in this thread.

I wouldn't go as far as saying ALL dictators are centrist because a dictator force freedom upon people of various kinds. So no, not all dictators are centrist. If I said that, then I was incorrect. Dictators in general are centrist because they take all the terrible ideas of the left wing of heavy economic restraint. Can you at least agree on ONE point being part of the left-wing yourself: that the left wing does want economic restraints on the economy? Its the one point that all left-wing people agree on by definition, so I'd expect some agreement there.

Tim Pool because he supports abortion, is for legal gay marriage, and for progressive tax policies, is centrist or center-right, but certainly not right. I believe Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter too, definitely a far-left figure.

No, it makes him a traitorous weasel. JD Vance was a never-trumper, look at him now. These types of right-wing nutjobs don't stop being right-wing nutjobs just because they may have said something different in the past or may "support" abortion by saying "states should decide it".


Ok, cool, dictators are all centrists. I didn't think you could say anything dumber than "Tim Pool is a centrist" but I stand corrected.

Have you ever been right about any point you've ever made? You're so good at being wrong about everything I don't even know where to begin. Tim Pool's original fame came from being part of the Occupy Wall Street movement and Vice News... obviously leftist constructs, though I guess you have to disagree with that because you seem to insist about being wrong on every single point. Tim Pool has been against all the wars the USA has been involved in, making him anti-war.

The concept that being okay with abortion and being for legal gay marriage, have been known to be leftist constructs for decades. Yet here you are pretending they are not a big factor so you can pretend I'm a liar. The more sensible explanation is that he has a lot of positions on the left making him a centrist. This is very obvious to everyone but you. Ask around.

The problem with your ideas is that there really are people who are authoritarians who want to micromanage everything. Are they on the left or the right? The right answer is they are on the center. They want economic restraints of the left and the social restraints of the right. There are also libertarians who want neither the economic restraints of the left nor the social restraints of the right. They are libertarians not entirely unlike Tim Pool, who are also in the center.

I think BADecker was refering to him selling NFTs, perfume, Sneakers, gold coin, bibles, pieces of the suit he wore when he was indicted (not sure if it was first, second, third or fourth time),  and as of last week $100k watches.

Before a magatard runs in and exlaims "But he's running for president, he has to raise money thats what they all do!"

Nope, these aren't campaign fundraisers, this is Trump generating personal income.  

I don't know if being a traitorous liar is what most people would consider "success" but at least you have something to aspire to so that's great.

That's similar to what he does. But he does it successfully... especially if you consider the amount of money he is making, and the effect he is having on the world.

Keep working at it. Maybe you will catch up to him sometime... in a million years, or so.

I'm not trying to pander to right-wing nutjobs so of course I'm failing at that. Unless you're saying that I'm failing at what I am trying to do, i.e. ridiculing said nutjobs, in which case I apologize, I'll try harder next time to make you feel more ridiculed.

Of course there are people who believe gay marriage should be illegal.  

You said:


And then I responded:


I appreciate that you kind of sort of admitted you were wrong by throwing in that "a few short years ago" the majority opinion was against gay marriage.  But why try to make it look like I think there are no people against gay marriage?  It seems like you're only goal is to pwn the libs.  And you aren't doing a very good job.  You should be patient and wait for a lib to do or say something deserving of being pwnd.  When you try and force it, you risk pwning yourself.

Yes, but, he did it successfully. You are failing at it.     

You are lying that he's anti-war. Then you made-up this very specific criteria of how to label somewhat "leftist" so that it fits him. What's the point? He's a failed "journalist" who saw an opportunity to pander to gullible right-wing nutjobs and he's quite good at it but that doesn't make him smart or worth listening to or otherwise notable, frivolous lawsuits notwithstanding.

True or false, someone who believes in progressive taxation brackets, gay marriage legality, trans surgery legality, and abortion, leans left? If true, then it would seem you are the liar. Only you are not, because you believe your own nonsense. I comprehend reality while you do not. if you think I don't believe my own words, you are are not a liar, but worse, a fool. You blanketly believe the cartoonish nonsense offered by your corporate tool allies at the mainstream news agaisnt Tim Pool. That is you being a fool, not me being a liar.

"Conspiracy theorist" in this context you use name-calling word salad as an ad-hominem distraction argument. Is Jimmy Dore a leftist or not? Once again your focus on people and their alleged flaws, not the strength of arguments. You (and leftists as whole) would do well for your selves to focus on facts an evidence. Centrists like Tim Pool and Jimmy Dore who are both in favor of gay marriage legality, adult trans gender transition legality, and abortion before the third trimester, CAN focus on the facts in many cases. Just admit those issues make Tim Pool a centrist while Jimmy Dore is on your team as a leftist because of his favor for heavy economic restraint on wealthy people.

You act like there is nobody who exists who believes gay marriage should be illegal when a few short years ago that was a majority opinion. Yes, the right wing still does really exist, Those are not the people Kamala Harris seems to want to get executed the most by labeling them dictators and tyrants. The one's she labels to get those people shot at are the ones causing her problems personally... she doesn't care about general philosophies she just cares about the pragmatics of calling her enemies "tyrants" or "dictators" to get them shot at.

He's exactly who you would imagine he is.  A conspiracy theorist with a youtube channel. 

There is this thing called a dictionary. I don't need you to define words for me.


^^^ Speaking of "intellectually dishonest" or more likely in this case - just plain old lying.


It isn't because he is. He has repeatedly stated that Putin was "provoked" to invade Ukraine (the favorite excuse of putinists, Kremlin-approved).

You would have to redefine some words again to make it sound like Putin's "special operation" was not really war, but Ukraine defending itself is war, therefore putinists are against war.


No idea who that is, but if this Jimmy is praising Putin (with or without getting paid for it), then I would probably "categorize" him in some unflattering way.

Very good question, thanks for asking. Sovereignty can only begin at the individual level, otherwise you have unequal rights where a minority forces their morals upon a majority. This policy results in dramatically different laws in different areas because different people have different cultures, and it isn't our place to force our ways on others, an arrogant presumption that our culture of virtues and values is superior to other virtues and values.

The fact we have different rules in different places gives us many places to choose from to live according to our personal virtues and values. Finding a place that well aligns without our way of life is an important step each person in today's world should take. Forming and being part of an intentional community in today's world is of paramount importance to assert our rights while we still can, while the globalists have not yet asserted total dominance.