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Topic: Tim The YouTuber Scammer - Avoid him at all costs. (Read 406 times)

legendary
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Joel_Jantsen has been a pretty trusted member for years now, and along with the fact that TimtheYoutuber already has a few negatives on his trust page I'm going to leave the latter another neg until this gets resolved.  Good luck, J_J.
Great, thanks for your help!

I have always had pretty positive dealings with Joel in the past. Reading the accusation I would hope that a peaceful resolution comes here and I like TSC giving the tag until this is resolved.
Thanks for the words of support yahoo! Hope you're doing great! Smiley
legendary
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I have always had pretty positive dealings with Joel in the past. Reading the accusation I would hope that a peaceful resolution comes here and I like TSC giving the tag until this is resolved.
legendary
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I will upload all of the conversation. We agreed on 300, if it was too much work you could have said no.

He posted this, and then I scanned and scanned this thread for the stated upload of said conversation....and nope, he didn't do it.  Looks like he also didn't pay the bare minimum of $300 for J_J's work even after an address was posted for TimtheYoutuber to send the BTC to.

Joel_Jantsen has been a pretty trusted member for years now, and along with the fact that TimtheYoutuber already has a few negatives on his trust page I'm going to leave the latter another neg until this gets resolved.  Good luck, J_J.
legendary
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Otherwise, he would try to defend his reputation and not ghost this thread.

Here is the best solution. You are to deliver the functional product that he requested in the initial agreement, and he is to pay the amount agreed on that occasion. It can't be too complicated.
This is about attempted fraud, certainly he should not ignore the whole thing.

legendary
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We are still waiting. Where is the conversation? If you do not make an active effort to counter the allegation with some sort of proof, you will find yourself with an appropriate tag and the flag will be supported too.
If they upload the conversation, they'd find themselves in trouble because they've agreed to pay the charges for the new work over and over again. Btw they deleted the whole chat so I doubt they've any conversation to upload.



If having an escrow for that is the best way to ensure payment, you should think about it after this incident.
Yes, I've other stuff where the escrow is handled by minnerjones/other reputed escrows in the past.

Your first post contradicts your second post. Your first post is indicating that you want to pay the initially agreed $300. But your second post says otherwise. This issue doesn’t have to get to this stage if you can handle it amicably.
He's a scammer he has no intention of paying anything. Otherwise, he would try to defend his reputation and not ghost this thread.
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I told you I'd pay 300 for the work you did and then you said you wanted 500 which I told you wasn't good since you told me 300. You then told me you were just going to take everything back and messaged me about removing the root etc via DM.


I will upload all of the conversation. We agreed on 300, if it was too much work you could have said no.


I offered to pay thr 300 we agreed on for the project even though it was still broken and I'd have to pay someone else.




He has already dropped his wallet address for the $300 you initially agreed on but you are now saying another thing. Can’t you verify what he did by yourself, does he has to wait for you to hire another developer to confirm what he did before you pay him?

Anybody that did a project for someone will expect the project to be reviewed as soon as possible and if there’s an issue. You should ask he to fix it. When it’s done, you pay him. I just don’t understand why OP didn’t take even 50% of the payment before working on the project since you guys didn’t use escrow.

How hard you work has nothing to do with your pay. Our contract determines it which was 300.

I'll get another developer who can get all the docs from you and get it on my site and ill pay the 300 via escrow. If he can't use the docs then im not paying for it. Easy






Your first post contradicts your second post. Your first post is indicating that you want to pay the initially agreed $300. But your second post says otherwise. This issue doesn’t have to get to this stage if you can handle it amicably.

legendary
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I told you I'd pay 300 for the work you did and then you said you wanted 500 which I told you wasn't good since you told me 300. You then told me you were just going to take everything back and messaged me about removing the root etc via DM.


I will upload all of the conversation. We agreed on 300, if it was too much work you could have said no.


I offered to pay thr 300 we agreed on for the project even though it was still broken and I'd have to pay someone else.
We are still waiting. Where is the conversation? If you do not make an active effort to counter the allegation with some sort of proof, you will find yourself with an appropriate tag and the flag will be supported too.

Can you either upload the conversation or explain what is stopping you uploading it?

It does not matter if the amount in question is $3 or $300 or $3000, it is a matter of principle that you be paid if the work was completed as per the requirements. One of the most obvious questions to mind here. Why was a mutually agreed escrow not used when it would have been the safest way to ensure payment?

Yes, exactly mate! Considering the previous accusations, I can see this user follows the same pattern. I usually avoid escrows for amounts less than $500 but I guess I'm wrong. Can we please have right flags and feedback in place so we can prevent other developers from wasting time and effort? Thank you!
I would recommend you change your approach with regards to payments.

Plans could change (as they have done for many people) but as long as mutually agreed roadmaps are altered then it should not matter. At the end of the day you are giving your time to accommodate whatever the arrangement is between yourself and your client therefore you should be paid as long the work is delivered according to the agreement.

If having an escrow for that is the best way to ensure payment, you should think about it after this incident.
legendary
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I usually avoid escrows for amounts less than $500 but I guess I'm wrong. Can we please have right flags and feedback in place so we can prevent other developers from wasting time and effort? Thank you!
I have gone through the feedback page of TimtheYoutuber. I don't feel comfortable for anyone to work for him without having a third party who will do the audit of the work and then release the fund or refund. The same person can be the escrow.

You don't seem to care about the $300 but for a micro worker who brings his daily food from his micro jobs, for him $300 is a lot of money. If things that happened as you explained then others need at least a reading of this topic before working for Tim.

I will leave a neutral with the reference of this post.
That's correct! That's why I opened the scam accusation in the first place. Thank you!
legendary
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I usually avoid escrows for amounts less than $500 but I guess I'm wrong. Can we please have right flags and feedback in place so we can prevent other developers from wasting time and effort? Thank you!
I have gone through the feedback page of TimtheYoutuber. I don't feel comfortable for anyone to work for him without having a third party who will do the audit of the work and then release the fund or refund. The same person can be the escrow.

You don't seem to care about the $300 but for a micro worker who brings his daily food from his micro jobs, for him $300 is a lot of money. If things that happened as you explained then others need at least a reading of this topic before working for Tim.

I will leave a neutral with the reference of this post.
legendary
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It does not matter if the amount in question is $3 or $300 or $3000, it is a matter of principle that you be paid if the work was completed as per the requirements. One of the most obvious questions to mind here. Why was a mutually agreed escrow not used when it would have been the safest way to ensure payment?

This is a blatant scam.

Yes, exactly mate! Considering the previous accusations, I can see this user follows the same pattern. I usually avoid escrows for amounts less than $500 but I guess I'm wrong. Can we please have right flags and feedback in place so we can prevent other developers from wasting time and effort? Thank you!
legendary
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It does not matter if the amount in question is $3 or $300 or $3000, it is a matter of principle that you be paid if the work was completed as per the requirements. One of the most obvious questions to mind here. Why was a mutually agreed escrow not used when it would have been the safest way to ensure payment?

This is a blatant scam.
legendary
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So, he got all the files he would need to pay $300 according to the agreement?
Is it possible that what you have been doing deviates from what you primarily agreed on?
I assume that there is always a reason for some additions or changes (the revisions had to be agreed upon before the start of the work).
I removed the files after starting this scam accusation and he did revoke all my access as well. That's a false assumption, there wasn't a deviation, wasn't anything done that they didn't want to do. Everything is as agreed upon.

I don't understand how not paying for 6 days of my work justifies anything?

This is a blatant scam.
legendary
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Hey yes, I finished 99% of the work as promised and then I asked for the payment. All the code and files were as delivered as promised. But they still refused to pay the $300 as decided earlier that's why the scam accusation.

So, he got all the files he would need to pay $300 according to the agreement?
Is it possible that what you have been doing deviates from what you primarily agreed on?
I assume that there is always a reason for some additions or changes (the revisions had to be agreed upon before the start of the work).


@TimtheYoutuber, is this true that you got all the files and code for this task?
Joel_Jantsen can you answer a simple question
Have you done the work that is the subject of your agreement? By that, I mean as functional as TimtheYoutuber asked for.
Since you're asking for payment, I assume TimtheYoutuber has a functional thing for which he offered $300 to make. If you didn't deliver what you promised, then you have no reason to ask for money.
Hey yes, I finished 99% of the work as promised and then I asked for the payment. All the code and files were as delivered as promised. But they still refused to pay the $300 as decided earlier that's why the scam accusation.
legendary
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Joel_Jantsen can you answer a simple question
Have you done the work that is the subject of your agreement? By that, I mean as functional as TimtheYoutuber asked for.
Since you're asking for payment, I assume TimtheYoutuber has a functional thing for which he offered $300 to make. If you didn't deliver what you promised, then you have no reason to ask for money.
Hey yes, I finished 99% of the work as promised and then I asked for the payment. All the code and files were as delivered as promised. But they still refused to pay the $300 as decided earlier that's why the scam accusation.

If you notice that you need more time and that the work is worth +200 more, then that is your mistake and bad judgment unless TimtheYoutuber requests subsequent changes.
NOPE. This isn't even about the extra $200 this is literally not paying anything for after the work is done and verified.
legendary
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Joel_Jantsen can you answer a simple question
Have you done the work that is the subject of your agreement? By that, I mean as functional as TimtheYoutuber asked for.
Since you're asking for payment, I assume TimtheYoutuber has a functional thing for which he offered $300 to make. If you didn't deliver what you promised, then you have no reason to ask for money.

If you notice that you need more time and that the work is worth +200 more, then that is your mistake and bad judgment unless TimtheYoutuber requests subsequent changes.
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It had been specifically communicated to them mid-work about the scope of the work being changed and they agreed to it.

Anyhow, how did you miss the whole point of not even paying me the 300 that was promised in the "contract"? Please read the thread again. This isn't about extra 200 being demanded but not even paying the initial 300 as agreed.
This is his suggestion
I'll get another developer who can get all the docs from you and get it on my site and ill pay the 300 via escrow. If he can't use the docs then im not paying for it. Easy
If he says that he will pay you $300 if the documents are uploaded to the site and work correctly, he will pay you via escrow, so why don't you accept this solution? I think it is an acceptable compromise from my point of view, but if the scope of work is expanded and they agree to it, as you say, then this is another problem.
legendary
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I agree with TimtheYoutuber on this point, if the agreement was basically to pay $300 for the work then that is the contract between you no matter how hard the work is, if you think this work is worth more you should have asked for this from the beginning.
It had been specifically communicated to them mid-work about the scope of the work being changed and they agreed to it.

Anyhow, how did you miss the whole point of not even paying me the 300 that was promised in the "contract"? Please read the thread again. This isn't about extra 200 being demanded but not even paying the initial 300 as agreed.
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I told you I'd pay 300 for the work you did and then you said you wanted 500 which I told you wasn't good since you told me 300. You then told me you were just going to take everything back and messaged me about removing the root etc via DM.


I will upload all of the conversation. We agreed on 300, if it was too much work you could have said no.


I offered to pay thr 300 we agreed on for the project even though it was still broken and I'd have to pay someone else.



Idoit. Check your post and ask anyone to verify the amount of work I've done and see if the initial 300 still does the cut. You literally perm deleted all our conversations so there is no solid basis for your bullshit. Migrated your whole app from shared $2 cPannel to a full-blown Ubuntu WhitSped VPS with load balancing (round-robin scheduler ) for your traffic. You tripping g?
I agree with TimtheYoutuber on this point, if the agreement was basically to pay $300 for the work then that is the contract between you no matter how hard the work is, if you think this work is worth more you should have asked for this from the beginning.

Unless more work is added in excess of the initial agreement, then you have the right to demand more money over the agreed wage.
legendary
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How hard you work has nothing to do with your pay. Our contract determines it which was 300.
So an illiterate fuck like you comes up with vague requirements with 0 actual knowledge of what it actually costs to build an enterprise-grade app but still is on the high hopes that you said "300" so write my next Uber app for 300 euros. Idiot.


I'll get another developer who can get all the docs from you and get it on my site and ill pay the 300 via escrow. If he can't use the docs then im not paying for it. Easy


Your site is down. I've deleted all my code. I lost quite a few hours but it's ok. You pay me the 300 euros or I will take correct steps to ensure fair justice is given to both parties! : )
Below are the links and all the relevant info in regards to the scammer so other devs can avoid getting scammed by him while working on any of these ventures

www.batsight.com/search/ [I made this whole site from scratch but taken down due to not paying the amounts]

Email of the user: [email protected]

Apps developed previously: https://p3plzcpnl504340.prod.phx3.secureserver.net:2083/

Site Migrated: fraudcareer.com
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How hard you work has nothing to do with your pay. Our contract determines it which was 300.

I'll get another developer who can get all the docs from you and get it on my site and ill pay the 300 via escrow. If he can't use the docs then im not paying for it. Easy




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