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sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 10:57:13 AM
#22
iBelink is first to market with a big boy X11 miner.  Your free upgrade will come from your chance to ROI by being first to market.  iBelink doesn't owe anyone anything other than to get these out the door and into your hands ASAP so you have a chance to earn some of that money back.

Anyone getting a miner in October will be lucky if they can ROI in a year and I am not sure I would hold my breath on that year figure.

This approach is what was before the customer satisfaction & loyalty was discovered. In today's era only those organization survive who show gratitude to customers instead of 'i don't owe you anything' attitude.

Even a giant like Bitmain started realizing it and decided to give cost savings to its customers and despite of huge customer base they do cooperate with customers in many regards for example sending a low customs declaration to help customers save on customs duty. Where in i was disappointed to find out that iBeLink do not even facilitate request to issue a lower value customs declaration invoice to help customer save on duty which is a trend in China.

Remember, no body control or can control who get how much revenue, its only the attitude towards customer which make them loyal to any organization or not.

Thanks.

Bitmain shipments to my location are for face value of the items and never a discount.  So no break there.  Customer loyalty in the mining community?  This is a Unicorn not often seen here.  Bitmain used to give out coupons toward future purchases, but that pretty much dried up now that they are really the only game in town. 

In the mining community you work hard to build relationships.  It would be nice to see more from the manufacturers in this regard, but the reality is that for the most part all the manufacturers are just trying to stay alive in the face of the Bitmain assault. 

Investment, R&D, manufacturing equipment, shipping, and customer service all require a lot of money and at the moment Bitmain is sucking most of that out of the market.  If you think iBelink is making out like a bunch of fat cats and owe you something then I would say you should give it some more thought.  Looking for free upgrades when they are just trying to stay alive is fanciful thinking. 

Good luck looking for a customer loyalty upgrade.  I would be thankful if I managed to order a first batch miner and getting it soon so that I had a good shot at a early ROI.  Any follow on batches in Oct or later getting a short ROI is a pipe dream.

 

You didn't get my point, let me explain you

Point # 1


I ordered L3+ from bitmain and its price was $2000 including shipping PSU, so i requested them that when you send out for customs declaration send invoice as $90, they did it and it saved me money on customs. CLARIFICATION: I AM NOT SAYING that bitmain gave me discount of $1910, instead they took the $2000 and the customs invoice was issued worth $90 only. Do you get the point?

I requested same think to iBeLink and they denied......this is rude specially when they don't have any loss in doing so. Because in my country the custom duty on miners is huge.

Point # 2

Regarding your argument that Bitmain is sucking its competition, i agree to some extent and that's why i gave the suggestions to iBeLink that help the customers and in return you will get the miners loyalty. Ask YOURSELF if iBeLink give you free upgrade or lets say upgrade at nominal charges, won't you show them some respect and loyalty?

The miners i talked to, 99% of them said YES.

Point # 3

I am myself big fan of iBeLink, and advocated them all over the forum when bitmain initiated the price war, however remember only those trees survive for long in devastating storms which are flexible and NOT RIGID.

Business is all about strategy, that is what Bitmain is doing and iBeLink needs a good business strategist.

I personally want iBeLink to become biggest manufacturer but again like you said wanting something is separate and different then reality.

Thanks.
hero member
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August 05, 2017, 10:47:33 AM
#21
iBelink is first to market with a big boy X11 miner.  Your free upgrade will come from your chance to ROI by being first to market.  iBelink doesn't owe anyone anything other than to get these out the door and into your hands ASAP so you have a chance to earn some of that money back.

Anyone getting a miner in October will be lucky if they can ROI in a year and I am not sure I would hold my breath on that year figure.

This approach is what was before the customer satisfaction & loyalty was discovered. In today's era only those organization survive who show gratitude to customers instead of 'i don't owe you anything' attitude.

Even a giant like Bitmain started realizing it and decided to give cost savings to its customers and despite of huge customer base they do cooperate with customers in many regards for example sending a low customs declaration to help customers save on customs duty. Where in i was disappointed to find out that iBeLink do not even facilitate request to issue a lower value customs declaration invoice to help customer save on duty which is a trend in China.

Remember, no body control or can control who get how much revenue, its only the attitude towards customer which make them loyal to any organization or not.

Thanks.

Bitmain shipments to my location are for face value of the items and never a discount.  So no break there.  Customer loyalty in the mining community?  This is a Unicorn not often seen here.  Bitmain used to give out coupons toward future purchases, but that pretty much dried up now that they are really the only game in town. 

In the mining community you work hard to build relationships.  It would be nice to see more from the manufacturers in this regard, but the reality is that for the most part all the manufacturers are just trying to stay alive in the face of the Bitmain assault. 

Investment, R&D, manufacturing equipment, shipping, and customer service all require a lot of money and at the moment Bitmain is sucking most of that out of the market.  If you think iBelink is making out like a bunch of fat cats and owe you something then I would say you should give it some more thought.  Looking for free upgrades when they are just trying to stay alive is fanciful thinking. 

Good luck looking for a customer loyalty upgrade.  I would be thankful if I managed to order a first batch miner and getting it soon so that I had a good shot at a early ROI.  Any follow on batches in Oct or later getting a short ROI is a pipe dream.

 
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 10:07:18 AM
#20
iBelink is first to market with a big boy X11 miner.  Your free upgrade will come from your chance to ROI by being first to market.  iBelink doesn't owe anyone anything other than to get these out the door and into your hands ASAP so you have a chance to earn some of that money back.

Anyone getting a miner in October will be lucky if they can ROI in a year and I am not sure I would hold my breath on that year figure.

This approach is what was before the customer satisfaction & loyalty was discovered. In today's era only those organization survive who show gratitude to customers instead of 'i don't owe you anything' attitude.

Even a giant like Bitmain started realizing it and decided to give cost savings to its customers and despite of huge customer base they do cooperate with customers in many regards for example sending a low customs declaration to help customers save on customs duty. Where in i was disappointed to find out that iBeLink do not even facilitate request to issue a lower value customs declaration invoice to help customer save on duty which is a trend in China.

Remember, no body control or can control who get how much revenue, its only the attitude towards customer which make them loyal to any organization or not.

Thanks.
hero member
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Merit: 517
August 05, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
#19
iBelink is first to market with a big boy X11 miner.  Your free upgrade will come from your chance to ROI by being first to market.  iBelink doesn't owe anyone anything other than to get these out the door and into your hands ASAP so you have a chance to earn some of that money back.

Anyone getting a miner in October will be lucky if they can ROI in a year and I am not sure I would hold my breath on that year figure.
newbie
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August 05, 2017, 05:36:19 AM
#18
Why are you guys expecting free stuff?
Let me guess, you are Americans?  Cool Kiss
No Smiley

But its not free, we invested in company lots of $ and now time for company show attitude to their customers.
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 05:33:05 AM
#17
Why are you guys expecting free stuff?
Let me guess, you are Americans?  Cool Kiss

No body is expecting free stuff, instead trying to help mining manufacturers to make their customers happy otherwise they won't be able to win the competition war waged on them by Bitmain.
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 05:31:09 AM
#16
Why are you guys expecting free stuff?
Let me guess, you are Americans?  Cool Kiss
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 05, 2017, 05:22:49 AM
#15
Hello fellow miners,

iBeLink just announced release of 22000 MHs DASH miner 810 watt.
https://ibelink.co/blog/

All the customers who purchased in July have not yet got delivery for iBeLink DM11G and expect that iBelink send them free upgrade kit for DM22G as those customers purchased DM11G at expensive rates by putting their trust in iBelink.

Its time for iBeLink to show to the miners that they are miner friendly and a good organization with positive intentions.

I hope iBeLink will give this FREE UPGRADE KIT proposal a consideration and win the heart of miners.

Thanks.


Fat chance of that happening. Good luck thou...I don't want to sound harsh...but just is not gonna happen imho.


I understand but we as customers should atleast tell these mining manufacturers that this is what we expect. And at this stage when bitmain is all set to destroy competition the companies like iBeLink can only survive with its customers support.

Yeah, with price $6K per 10 Gh/s  vs 1600$ for 15 Gh/s (antminer). :/ And I saw selling price $12k per ibelink dm22g in china mining pool. If so its really bad price even $6k for 20 Gh/s vs antminer D3...

I really hope that ibelink will make us happy and add upgrade kit for last batch Tongue
sr. member
Activity: 420
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August 05, 2017, 04:56:38 AM
#14
Hello fellow miners,

iBeLink just announced release of 22000 MHs DASH miner 810 watt.
https://ibelink.co/blog/

All the customers who purchased in July have not yet got delivery for iBeLink DM11G and expect that iBelink send them free upgrade kit for DM22G as those customers purchased DM11G at expensive rates by putting their trust in iBelink.

Its time for iBeLink to show to the miners that they are miner friendly and a good organization with positive intentions.

I hope iBeLink will give this FREE UPGRADE KIT proposal a consideration and win the heart of miners.

Thanks.


Fat chance of that happening. Good luck thou...I don't want to sound harsh...but just is not gonna happen imho.


I understand but we as customers should atleast tell these mining manufacturers that this is what we expect. And at this stage when bitmain is all set to destroy competition the companies like iBeLink can only survive with its customers support.
copper member
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Clueless!
August 05, 2017, 04:53:02 AM
#13
Hello fellow miners,

iBeLink just announced release of 22000 MHs DASH miner 810 watt.
https://ibelink.co/blog/

All the customers who purchased in July have not yet got delivery for iBeLink DM11G and expect that iBelink send them free upgrade kit for DM22G as those customers purchased DM11G at expensive rates by putting their trust in iBelink.

Its time for iBeLink to show to the miners that they are miner friendly and a good organization with positive intentions.

I hope iBeLink will give this FREE UPGRADE KIT proposal a consideration and win the heart of miners.

Thanks.


Fat chance of that happening. Good luck thou...I don't want to sound harsh...but just is not gonna happen imho.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
August 05, 2017, 04:52:44 AM
#12
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

I have my shipping info and expect the units next week. Guys in the States might get theirs a day or two earlier, or already have them.

When did you placed your order?

Did u buy on pre order or website, website wont ship till 10th

Pre order through ibelink official website. What other 'pre-order' you are referring to?
sr. member
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August 05, 2017, 04:51:00 AM
#11
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

I have my shipping info and expect the units next week. Guys in the States might get theirs a day or two earlier, or already have them.

When did you placed your order?

Did u buy on pre order or website, website wont ship till 10th
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
August 05, 2017, 04:47:03 AM
#10
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

I have my shipping info and expect the units next week. Guys in the States might get theirs a day or two earlier, or already have them.

When did you placed your order?
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
August 05, 2017, 04:18:06 AM
#9
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

I have my shipping info and expect the units next week. Guys in the States might get theirs a day or two earlier, or already have them.

Very strange, why don't I and others i know don't have the shipping info yet?
member
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Merit: 10
August 05, 2017, 12:55:11 AM
#8
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

I have my shipping info and expect the units next week. Guys in the States might get theirs a day or two earlier, or already have them.
sr. member
Activity: 489
Merit: 253
August 04, 2017, 11:57:38 PM
#7
The people who ordered 3 months ago should especially get a free/discounted upgrade kit, they are the ones who have been waiting the longest and risked the most.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
August 04, 2017, 11:53:47 PM
#6
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...

Not got it yet, where in they said it will be delivered by 10th August, but hoping will get tracking # today so then i could reach me by 10th August.
newbie
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Merit: 0
August 04, 2017, 11:51:39 PM
#5
Has anybody even gotten their iBeLink DM11Gs yet? Weren't these supposed to be delivered already? Nobody seems to be posting anything...
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
August 04, 2017, 11:32:49 PM
#4
Hello fellow miners,

iBeLink just announced release of 22000 MHs DASH miner 810 watt.
https://ibelink.co/blog/

All the customers who purchased in July have not yet got delivery for iBeLink DM11G and expect that iBelink send them free upgrade kit for DM22G as those customers purchased DM11G at expensive rates by putting their trust in iBelink.

Its time for iBeLink to show to the miners that they are miner friendly and a good organization with positive intentions.

I hope iBeLink will give this FREE UPGRADE KIT proposal a consideration and win the heart of miners.

Thanks.

That is highly unlikely for a company not even able to meet the demand of product from it's customer. It's like hoping for a free coke when the waiter is late at a restaurant.  Grin   The only hope is they improve their delivery system and make its customer's money worthwhile.

I understand your point, and this is what i am trying to convey iBeLink that if they want to remain alive in the market they need to show some good gestures otherwise BitMain is all set to bulldoze all its competitors.

Now iBeLink have to decide if they want to keep sailing they must show some good gesture and gratitude towards its existing customers because they are the one who can ensure that Bitmain does not eat them.
member
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Merit: 10
August 04, 2017, 11:29:59 PM
#3
Hello fellow miners,

iBeLink just announced release of 22000 MHs DASH miner 810 watt.
https://ibelink.co/blog/

All the customers who purchased in July have not yet got delivery for iBeLink DM11G and expect that iBelink send them free upgrade kit for DM22G as those customers purchased DM11G at expensive rates by putting their trust in iBelink.

Its time for iBeLink to show to the miners that they are miner friendly and a good organization with positive intentions.

I hope iBeLink will give this FREE UPGRADE KIT proposal a consideration and win the heart of miners.

Thanks.

As soon as Bitmain will pay iBelink for it, and write a letter of apology for dumping on the market, you'll get an upgrade kit. lol
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