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Topic: [TIPS] to avoid plagiarism - page 3. (Read 2576 times)

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May 16, 2019, 04:41:21 AM
#27
Some newest collected posts relate to plagiarsiml, OP updated.
Global mods were given the ability to ban signatures only yesterday. Do you think we can get through all the appeals in one day? Be patient.

You can't plagiarise yourself. Copying the same post into another or multiple threads would at worst get you a temp ban if it was deemed spam.

Globals can now issue sig bans so it'll happen more often but isn't going to be a let off for everyone (so if half your posts are copy and pastes then forget about it but people who are getting banned for one or two posts from years ago will likely be shown some mercy).
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May 14, 2019, 09:18:26 PM
#26
Updated with things happen next after proof of plagiarism found by mods, or forum members. Mods can not be able to do perma-bans, only admin and global mods can do perma-bans; and perma-bans will be handled manually, carefully.
Someone whom translated my topic into your local languages, please update OP with this part:
What's next after reports of plagiarsims?
Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.
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May 05, 2019, 09:17:27 AM
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1.1. Leaving the source link behind the content (definition of plagiarism, in this example)
"Plagiarism is the "wrongful appropriation" and "stealing and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions" and the representation of them as one's own original work.[1][2]"
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
Sometimes I see this type of quotation after a long content without "".  In such a case readers cannot understand that it is a quoted content until they reach at the bottom of the content.  Although one could still claim that s/he gave a credit and could avoid plagiarism, I recommend to make the quotation as clear as possible, by putting it at the beginning of the content or simply using the forum quote code as written in 1.2 and 1.3 in OP.
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May 05, 2019, 02:18:26 AM
#24
I translated this thread into Filipino language
Sorry for late response. Thank you so much for your Filipinio Translation.
By the way, today I updated the OP with another statement of theymos on plagiarsim, which I found for weeks because I don't remember where it is.
This statement explains why some Legendary users suddenly were permanent banned for their mistakes (plagiarisms) years ago.
  • Plagiarism: If you copy some text from somewhere, then you should have a good reason for it, and you must link to the source. Doing otherwise is plagiarism. Changing a few words around doesn't matter. If we find that you plagiarized, then you absolutely will be permanently banned, even if we find it years after you did it.
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April 29, 2019, 01:02:13 AM
#23
I translated this thread into Filipino language which you may find here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mga-tip-para-maiwasan-ang-plagiarism-5137268

I'm supporting this topic to make awareness in order to help people to avoid being banned in this forum.
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April 29, 2019, 12:28:04 AM
#22
I found this topic, and added as should-read documents in the OP. It's time to read and enjoy.
[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it. (by DireWolfM14)
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April 23, 2019, 10:09:39 PM
#21
Today, I updated the OP with this part. Please feel free to correct me if I wrote something incorrect or you have additional things to contribute.
Plagiarism Classification
I will classify types of plagiarism into two main categories:
1. Unintentionally plagiarsim
It does not mean that people who plagiarise in any type of plagiarism listed here mean that they plagiarise unintentionally. It means they can not plagiarise, then use my topic, and the part of plagiarism classification in order to prove that they violate the rule on plagiarism unintentionally.
1.1. Copy & Paste without source link
1.2. Copye & Paste part of Whitepaper, Roadmap, Specifications, announcements from projects' documents, websites, other forums that totally managed by teams of projects without source link. This type is only for developer team, who post announcements on progresses of their projects in the forum, and sometimes they unintentionally plagiarise their own documents. In fact, they don't plagiarise based on theymos' opinion on plagiarsim, but when they get bans due to this, they have to prove their ownership of original documents and their roles in such projects. So, it's better to always leave source links, even you are developers, and owners of those documents.
1.3. Translating topics of others into your local languages without ask for permission
Personally, I think that it will be fine if translators translate topics of other members into whatever languages they want, with source link.
However, it will be better if they ask for permission of authors and actually get acceptance to translate. It is better for two reasons:
- In moral aspect: By asking for permission, they will show their respect to authors.
- In potential conflicts of interests: When such conflicts occurs, it takes time to solve, and I don't think anyone of us want to face with such problems, especially we start with good purposes.

2. Intentionally plagiarism
2.1. Fake Paraphrasing
It is a lowest level of plagiarism when people usually change just a few words from original texts/ posts.
2.2. Text Spinning
They intentionally use posts of others, and over paraphrase them using softwares.
Text spinning/disguised plagiarism
2.3. Translation Abusement
They intentionally use posts or part of posts of other members, such as from English, then using Google Translate in order to automatically translate those texts into local language, such as Russian or any local language they want; and vice versa.
New sort of plagiarism
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April 21, 2019, 05:28:37 AM
#20
Plagiarism is one of the worst things in real world

You have serious problems if you think that plagiarism is one of the worst things around. What about rape? murder? fraud?


OP says one of the worst things. Plagiarism can give the tag of academic dishonesty and sometime copyright violations comes with hefty plenty. 

Out of three you mentioned, I did not know if first 2 are committed online and plagiarism is equivalent to fraud only.

   
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April 21, 2019, 04:48:03 AM
#19
I found it, noted it here, and will edit OP later.
New sort of plagiarism
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April 20, 2019, 01:00:14 PM
#18
~snip~
Users plagiarised by copying posts of other in English, for example, then using Google Translator to translate it into their local language, and posted translated one as their own contents. They even don't paraphrase.

I don't remember where I read it.
This is more prevalent for fake bounty translators, I call them "fake" because they really don't know the local language they are translating it to and they use Google translate to do an awful job for them. However for users using GTranslate to post it in a plagiarized English text for their post is not a common thing to do since the translation is pretty bad plagiarizers doing it often gets caught since it is pretty obvious and can esily be spotted from the post itself.
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April 20, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
#17
I just glance at it, and might spend more time to look at the given topic tomorrow. However, you reminded me that long time ago I read that there is another kind of plagiarism. Users plagiarised by copying posts of other in English, for example, then using Google Translator to translate it into their local language, and posted translated one as their own contents. They even don't paraphrase.

I don't remember where I read it.
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April 20, 2019, 12:09:15 PM
#16
@tbct_mt2 overall I think your guide/tip has covered most of the aspects on plagiarism in the forum however I think you have missed the growing kind of plagiarism here in the forum and that is paraphrasing or rephasing the stolen content or what they sometimes call text spinning. This has been more popular here in the forum since the merit system was introduced and the thought that they could get away with it, some spin the texts on their own while others use a rephrasing tool found online. Newbies need to know that text spinning is still plagiarism and it's not counted on creating your own original post.
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April 20, 2019, 07:09:06 AM
#15
I did not say that plagiarism is the worst, I said one of the worst. What's wrong?
Some people have a lot of bigger life problems then plagiarism, so they react on part of your post where you say "Plagiarism is one of the worst things in real world". On the other hand this is very big problem in this forum, some users do not understand that copy / pasting other people posts or some article without posting source results in a ban of the account.

I think I've seen the thread where someone ask about plagiarism in relation with different cultures. Although generally speaking stealing other people's work is a bad thing, in some countries plagiarism is not high on the scale of bad social forms of behavior.

Such threads can surely help that some users comprehend what is plagiarism, and that such a way of posting results in banishing of the users accounts.
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April 19, 2019, 08:13:24 PM
#14
I did not say that plagiarism is the worst, I said one of the worst. What's wrong?
You have serious problems if you think that plagiarism is one of the worst things around. What about rape? murder? fraud?
The matter is, people tend to plagiarise to hit their post quota, due to their laziness hinders them to spend a couple of mins to brainstorm and express their ideas. Simply opening a website, clicking on one artcile, copying part of the article, and pasting that article's paragraph here. They finish their works, less than a minute. And, most of members whom plagiarise don't care about their contents they posted, of course they don't care about any contributions to the forum, instead of stealing free money.
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Yes it is bad, even more so if it is done to pass skill tests, but if you are talking about content theft and reposting online is relatively minor. One of the best parts of the internet is sharing information and growing knowledge, frankly it doesn't matter in lots of situations whether a source is quoted or not.
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April 19, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
#13
...Sometimes one could just make a mistake that could cost one's account just because they did not properly quote and proofread what they had just replied...
...quote his/her post, and then probably by mistake I misquote it, leaving some of his original text outside the quotes and making it look like mine and without proofreading I post the text thinking that everything is OK...
As you can see if someone sees my post, they could clearly think I did a copy and paste especially if our comments are from different posts or on different pages and this can easily earn me a permanent ban of which it is almost impossible to over turn.

I was not banned but red trusted for exactly such a mistake as described above. It was called PLAGIARISM in my trust comments.

I was not experienced enough at this time and maybe a little too lazy because I left the quote as it was after six failed attempts to do it right.
Every time I published my post something was wrong with the quote. I was already Senior Member back then but my skills were at Newbie level at best.

Tried to quote 2 different posts at the same time in different places of my post.
When I think about it now is just hard to believe that somebody can struggle with such a simple task but if you don't write much this is possible as my story shows and there are for sure many people with very low skills when it goes to proper writing, quoting, using tables or even bolds.

Despite I added in my post usernames of these quoted members and their posts were above mine in the thread, I was mistrusted and red painted for plagiarism.
I repeated multiple times my story in my accusation thread and nobody believed me, nobody answered my PM's from these members who red painted me.
What is even better more red paint hit my account after I started my reputation thread in meta.
During the "investigation" I was accused that I have added usernames later to my post. Can you believe that?
I was red trusted for almost 6 months. Had my reputation thread running in the Meta section with explanation and evidence provided but nobody wanted to help me.
Finally, one established member visited my thread and believed my story (backed up with evidence for which he asked) and after some time red paint was gone.

Luckily, because if there will be permaban, like now, I wouldn't be Hero Member and I was just promoted yesterday  Grin.

I don't want to scrap old wounds, but mistakes can happen and if one has bad luck can be permabanned. That is why there should be an option to ask for reconsideration or double check by very trusted members in such cases.

legendary
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April 19, 2019, 02:37:31 PM
#12
Plagiarism is one of the worst things in real world

You have serious problems if you think that plagiarism is one of the worst things around. What about rape? murder? fraud?

Yes it is bad, even more so if it is done to pass skill tests, but if you are talking about content theft and reposting online is relatively minor. One of the best parts of the internet is sharing information and growing knowledge, frankly it doesn't matter in lots of situations whether a source is quoted or not.
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April 19, 2019, 12:42:27 PM
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There are so many posts, articles, essays on the web that a lot of times you will get a false positive when it happened by coincidence.  Sounds like I'm protecting plagiarizers but unless the post is decently long with a high percentage match its harsh to throw down the ban hammer.
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April 19, 2019, 11:48:02 AM
#10
In the discussions where posts had only few sentences and to which the thread started has lead to which users will going to answer unanimously will be tagged as possible plagiarism? SMT has a lot of replies and one could not just read them all to make a reply in a distinct manner from the other users?

This is really hard to prove that a certain idea is being plagiarized because we are not talking about an article that is being published. We are just talking about a post that has 2 or more sentences.

It may be clear plagiarism if all the context are being copied and paste and even with small alteration could do but when we have both the same ideas and posted in a the same thread then that is not considered as plagiarism. It is different like what other guys had told that an idea being copied is already a plagiarism.

Let us clear first what is plagiarism and how in this forum could avoid plagiarism. And thanks to this thread this is very helpful.
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April 19, 2019, 10:52:47 AM
#9
The most likely mistake people make and get themselves guilty of plagiarism is differentiating between sourcing and plagiarism(copy and paste)
It's not wrong to do research on other content to get a direction on a particular subject (sourcing)
But the problem comes when you where not able to apply the knowledge and create a whole new content of your own then you would surly be guilty of plagiarism
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April 19, 2019, 10:00:45 AM
#8
I easily check plagiarism and grammar I think to work it easy, some time plagiarism and grammar.

Plagiarism and Grammar cheker: https://searchenginereports.net/

you can check 2-way plagiarism or grammar:
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1. Copy text and paste this text box.
2. Upload a file to be checked: (.txt or .docx)


And click check processing with some time you the result.

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