Tips/picks/predictions are flooding the gambling discussion section

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Quote from: DeathAngel on November 03, 2017, 12:22:51 PM

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Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

I posted a while back a thread about this, somewhat not similar to this one as it is asking about whether you guys think these threads should be move.

Now this thread is about the situation here on the gambling discussion section. I believe there are too many of these threads around here and I think it's flooding this section. I see about 10+ of these threads on the first page everyday.

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree. Maybe it's time for the sports betting discussions to be separated from the mundane 'Is gambling a sin' threads that have been reaching over 100 pages discussing nothing but regurgitating the same thing over and over.

Yeah there are a lot of crappy threads like ‘how do you stop gambling’ , ‘did you ever gamble school fees or rent money’. All that type of stuff should just be binned. A lot of us actually enjoy gambling & it’s a serious hobby. All the gutter threads should be merged to a shit post section.

Recently they made gambling discussion thread, they separated gambling sites from gambling discussions. What you suggested here is something with I agree totally, next logical step would be opening new section where we can discuss about gambling games, and on another section for discussions about side effects of gambling (how to stop, how to start, are you addicted, do you borrow money for gambling... And many others).
I support this idea and this gambling discussion section can look much better with implementation of this idea.
Add voting pool and maybe devs will see how many people support this idea.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 03, 2017, 07:30:05 AM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

I posted a while back a thread about this, somewhat not similar to this one as it is asking about whether you guys think these threads should be move.

Now this thread is about the situation here on the gambling discussion section. I believe there are too many of these threads around here and I think it's flooding this section. I see about 10+ of these threads on the first page everyday.

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree. Maybe it's time for the sports betting discussions to be separated from the mundane 'Is gambling a sin' threads that have been reaching over 100 pages discussing nothing but regurgitating the same thing over and over.

Yeah there are a lot of crappy threads like ‘how do you stop gambling’ , ‘did you ever gamble school fees or rent money’. All that type of stuff should just be binned. A lot of us actually enjoy gambling & it’s a serious hobby. All the gutter threads should be merged to a shit post section.

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Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

I posted a while back a thread about this, somewhat not similar to this one as it is asking about whether you guys think these threads should be move.

Now this thread is about the situation here on the gambling discussion section. I believe there are too many of these threads around here and I think it's flooding this section. I see about 10+ of these threads on the first page everyday.

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree. Maybe it's time for the sports betting discussions to be separated from the mundane 'Is gambling a sin' threads that have been reaching over 100 pages discussing nothing but regurgitating the same thing over and over.

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It doesn’t bother me, OP if you don’t like seeing the tipster threads just skip past & don’t read them.

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Quote from: michkima on November 03, 2017, 05:50:27 AM

I think gambling is more than tips and predictions. There are legitimate discussions like what are the chances of winning 100 games in a row if you bet at 90% win chance. Discussion about EV, or those gambling concepts.

I really believe there is a need for a separate section for those tips and predictions threads as I think it is clutter here. There are a lot more people looking at discussion about gambling and the concepts than looking for tips for sure.

The chances of winning 100 games in a row if you bet at 90% win chance is 0.9^100 so about 2,65*10^-5 and that's it.
That's the problem with what you call "gambling concepts". It's both easy and mathematical. So it's definitive and there is nothing to discuss about.

You can discuss only about sport games (and also poker to be fair) but that's all! There is no reason to discuss about gambling games simply because anyone with basic mathematical knowledge can answer all your questions, that's not a discussion :/

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Quote from: mOgliE on November 03, 2017, 04:46:43 AM

Well they are indeed flooding this section but... Truth is what do you expect from this section?
If you wanna talk about gambling you have only two main groups of discussions: tips and predictions discussions or talking about new or specific websites.

So you CAN regroup everything in a new sub-section but I don't really see the point.
You want to have something like gambling discussion -> tips and predictions + Website discussions subsections?

Isn't it the same thing as what we already have in fact? ^^
And it's not like most of them are low quality topics. You have tons of actual people knowing tons of things about the games arguing for hours about what bet you should take.

I think gambling is more than tips and predictions. There are legitimate discussions like what are the chances of winning 100 games in a row if you bet at 90% win chance. Discussion about EV, or those gambling concepts.

I really believe there is a need for a separate section for those tips and predictions threads as I think it is clutter here. There are a lot more people looking at discussion about gambling and the concepts than looking for tips for sure.

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Well they are indeed flooding this section but... Truth is what do you expect from this section?
If you wanna talk about gambling you have only two main groups of discussions: tips and predictions discussions or talking about new or specific websites.

So you CAN regroup everything in a new sub-section but I don't really see the point.
You want to have something like gambling discussion -> tips and predictions + Website discussions subsections?

Isn't it the same thing as what we already have in fact? ^^
And it's not like most of them are low quality topics. You have tons of actual people knowing tons of things about the games arguing for hours about what bet you should take.

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Quote from: Aleister Crowley on November 02, 2017, 02:21:14 PM

adding a board will not solve the problem of the flood of spammers .. we need to do a specific benag, so it will not appear again the same new thread .. if this added board will only add new problems because it will pop many threads about the prediction ,, and this will trigger a lot of spammers ..

It might not solve but It will help to relieve the issue. Every week, I saw tipster thread that started by a newbie, It might be used to farm account because the only thing you do is to copy bets on a certain gambling site then post a prediction. Doing that daily will give you 14post=14 activity weekly. And it makes sense that it maybe used for that matter. I'm not against tipster, I just want like OP to be centralized on that matter. If they want to track there status on betting. They can do this on their own by recording it on any documentation app.

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Quote from: leex1528 on November 02, 2017, 01:52:31 PM

Quote from: michkima on November 02, 2017, 01:09:15 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on November 02, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I don't think we should do that. If we have a board for every little thing in the world its going to get to crazy. If you ask me I think we already have too many boards. Believe it or making predictions is exactly that, a gambling discussion on who you think is going to win or not.

But have you seen the gambling discussion board lately? There are more than 50% of the topics are not tipster, prediction, picks and similar kinds of threads just on the first page. Then there are tipsters that have multiple threads, then new tipsters coming and going, bottom line is that there are too many of them already and for someone like me that don't really look at them, I see them as clutter. There are indeed people looking for these kinds of threads, and if they are grouped into their own section then these people looking for these will have a better time looking for them.

Maybe, I don't see them that often to be honest, spend a lot of time on the gambling boards as well. Heck I have even started a few cause I thought it would be fun to keep track of my stats throughout. Usually they get bumped down very fast and heck, I usually do read them anyway because I am interested to see if I agree with the person posting. I just hate going to all the different boards now a days..

For the likes of me, I do not like seeing them. Since I do not believe in tipsters and predictions. I see them as mere opinions that does not matter. Because, I think they are just in for the money of affiliate bonuses or paying for their fake services. To be honest, if these tipsters are for real and they indeed win a lot then why share it? If they can win consistently then that means they can double your money in just a single bet every time which means they can profit thousand folds in just a few days of betting.

Quote from: Aleister Crowley on November 02, 2017, 02:21:14 PM

adding a board will not solve the problem of the flood of spammers .. we need to do a specific benag, so it will not appear again the same new thread .. if this added board will only add new problems because it will pop many threads about the prediction ,, and this will trigger a lot of spammers ..

Why would there be spammers? I did not claim any of these to be spam. I do admit they have a purpose but I believe they should be moved to another board, that is all.

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adding a board will not solve the problem of the flood of spammers .. we need to do a specific benag, so it will not appear again the same new thread .. if this added board will only add new problems because it will pop many threads about the prediction ,, and this will trigger a lot of spammers ..

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Quote from: michkima on November 02, 2017, 01:09:15 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on November 02, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I don't think we should do that. If we have a board for every little thing in the world its going to get to crazy. If you ask me I think we already have too many boards. Believe it or making predictions is exactly that, a gambling discussion on who you think is going to win or not.

But have you seen the gambling discussion board lately? There are more than 50% of the topics are not tipster, prediction, picks and similar kinds of threads just on the first page. Then there are tipsters that have multiple threads, then new tipsters coming and going, bottom line is that there are too many of them already and for someone like me that don't really look at them, I see them as clutter. There are indeed people looking for these kinds of threads, and if they are grouped into their own section then these people looking for these will have a better time looking for them.

Maybe, I don't see them that often to be honest, spend a lot of time on the gambling boards as well. Heck I have even started a few cause I thought it would be fun to keep track of my stats throughout. Usually they get bumped down very fast and heck, I usually do read them anyway because I am interested to see if I agree with the person posting. I just hate going to all the different boards now a days..

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Quote from: leex1528 on November 02, 2017, 10:28:10 AM

I don't think we should do that. If we have a board for every little thing in the world its going to get to crazy. If you ask me I think we already have too many boards. Believe it or making predictions is exactly that, a gambling discussion on who you think is going to win or not.

But have you seen the gambling discussion board lately? There are more than 50% of the topics are not tipster, prediction, picks and similar kinds of threads just on the first page. Then there are tipsters that have multiple threads, then new tipsters coming and going, bottom line is that there are too many of them already and for someone like me that don't really look at them, I see them as clutter. There are indeed people looking for these kinds of threads, and if they are grouped into their own section then these people looking for these will have a better time looking for them.

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I don't think we should do that. If we have a board for every little thing in the world its going to get to crazy. If you ask me I think we already have too many boards. Believe it or making predictions is exactly that, a gambling discussion on who you think is going to win or not.

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Quote from: michkima on October 30, 2017, 11:53:24 PM

Quote from: Factmine on October 30, 2017, 11:45:59 PM

Quote from: piloder on October 19, 2017, 10:37:07 PM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree with you, a new subsection for gambling related tips will be good and make gambling discussion clean.

I have also seen many tipster thread in gambling discussion section lately but most of them end up after 1-2 tips. Which is just useless, there are not any reliable tipster here who keep posting picks everyday with good results for free.

Not sure why the mods have not yet implemented this recommendation. I think it's pretty much logical to do it. The gambling discussion section is littered with these threads and a lot of times you would only see these threads and not anything else.

My exact same question, I think this is getting out of hand and the number of active tipster and prediction threads are flooding the gambling discussion. Which I think should not be the case. The thing is, if this continues, then we'll likely to see two pages full of them and nothing else to read about. So I am proposing to really have these threads moved to their own sub-section here on the gambling section.

I guess you should go to META section with similar proposals.

Hmm, probably, but generally I think I need some backing from the community first. If there is probably enough interest then we can get the attention of the moderators and the admins so that they can consider this proposal. So far, I have not seen enough interest from the community, maybe this isn't the right time to have it and probably when we all see that the gambling discussion section is filled with these threads that is when the community will notice this idea.

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Quote from: michkima on October 30, 2017, 11:53:24 PM

Quote from: Factmine on October 30, 2017, 11:45:59 PM

Quote from: piloder on October 19, 2017, 10:37:07 PM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree with you, a new subsection for gambling related tips will be good and make gambling discussion clean.

I have also seen many tipster thread in gambling discussion section lately but most of them end up after 1-2 tips. Which is just useless, there are not any reliable tipster here who keep posting picks everyday with good results for free.

Not sure why the mods have not yet implemented this recommendation. I think it's pretty much logical to do it. The gambling discussion section is littered with these threads and a lot of times you would only see these threads and not anything else.

My exact same question, I think this is getting out of hand and the number of active tipster and prediction threads are flooding the gambling discussion. Which I think should not be the case. The thing is, if this continues, then we'll likely to see two pages full of them and nothing else to read about. So I am proposing to really have these threads moved to their own sub-section here on the gambling section.

I guess you should go to META section with similar proposals.

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Quote from: Factmine on October 30, 2017, 11:45:59 PM

Quote from: piloder on October 19, 2017, 10:37:07 PM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree with you, a new subsection for gambling related tips will be good and make gambling discussion clean.

I have also seen many tipster thread in gambling discussion section lately but most of them end up after 1-2 tips. Which is just useless, there are not any reliable tipster here who keep posting picks everyday with good results for free.

Not sure why the mods have not yet implemented this recommendation. I think it's pretty much logical to do it. The gambling discussion section is littered with these threads and a lot of times you would only see these threads and not anything else.

My exact same question, I think this is getting out of hand and the number of active tipster and prediction threads are flooding the gambling discussion. Which I think should not be the case. The thing is, if this continues, then we'll likely to see two pages full of them and nothing else to read about. So I am proposing to really have these threads moved to their own sub-section here on the gambling section.

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Quote from: piloder on October 19, 2017, 10:37:07 PM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree with you, a new subsection for gambling related tips will be good and make gambling discussion clean.

I have also seen many tipster thread in gambling discussion section lately but most of them end up after 1-2 tips. Which is just useless, there are not any reliable tipster here who keep posting picks everyday with good results for free.

Not sure why the mods have not yet implemented this recommendation. I think it's pretty much logical to do it. The gambling discussion section is littered with these threads and a lot of times you would only see these threads and not anything else.

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Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I agree with you, a new subsection for gambling related tips will be good and make gambling discussion clean.

I have also seen many tipster thread in gambling discussion section lately but most of them end up after 1-2 tips. Which is just useless, there are not any reliable tipster here who keep posting picks everyday with good results for free.

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Quote from: badjacks99 on October 19, 2017, 07:27:40 PM

Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

I posted a while back a thread about this, somewhat not similar to this one as it is asking about whether you guys think these threads should be move.

Now this thread is about the situation here on the gambling discussion section. I believe there are too many of these threads around here and I think it's flooding this section. I see about 10+ of these threads on the first page everyday.

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I for one, like that there's so many gamblers willing to share their picks and predictions in the gambling discussion section. Definitely would not be opposed to having picks and prediction section all of its own, I just dont see the issue here. Its not nearly as bad as how it was before the ponzi section got put in.

There is still a ponzi section to be honest. The investor based games are all ponzis, I don't think there is one there that is not a ponzi.

About these topics, I just find it unorganized to see so much of these threads on the gambling discussions section and I feel that it is actually ruled by these threads because of the fact that the first page is filled more by these threads.

Another point to consider is that it would be better if they have they own subsection so that people actually looking for these would have a better time finding them in their own subsection.

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Quote from: michkima on October 18, 2017, 06:55:09 PM

I posted a while back a thread about this, somewhat not similar to this one as it is asking about whether you guys think these threads should be move.

Now this thread is about the situation here on the gambling discussion section. I believe there are too many of these threads around here and I think it's flooding this section. I see about 10+ of these threads on the first page everyday.

Probably now is the time to create a new subsection for these topics. Since I think they are a class of their own and should be grouped into their own place.

I for one, like that there's so many gamblers willing to share their picks and predictions in the gambling discussion section. Definitely would not be opposed to having picks and prediction section all of its own, I just dont see the issue here. Its not nearly as bad as how it was before the ponzi section got put in.

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